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Who's Afraid Of An Open Debate? Must Watch Documentary: The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates

The Commission on Presidential Debates is a private corporation headed by the former chairmen of the Republican and Democratic parties. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants. The result is a travesty riddled with sterile, non-contentious arguments which consistently exclude alternative voices that Americans want to hear.

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This video inspired me to write a thread & start this petition!

http://www.dailypaul.com/250565/now-what-and-changeorg-petition

Please check it and the corresponding petition out!

http://www.change.org/petitions/rasmussenreports-com-include...

Critical Thinking > Emotional Thinking > Pseudo-Intellectuals that Saturate DP
Utilitarianism > Consequentialism > Deontology > Egocentrism
Making people feel "troll'd" with the truth > being an intentional troll > acting like one naturally

REAL debate, real media and real voting are biggies!

No wonder ratings are so low for the presidential "debates." They are controlled and staged. No one wants that.

If we can bring about a new media with real debates and if we can get back to paper ballots with honest oversight ....that would be a massive turn around.

Thanks for posting this!

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

Enough people are waking up......

My video predictions for RNC

http://www.dailypaul.com/250545/video-excellent-prediction-f...

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Lets say let the people decide

I don't understand that Ron Paul wasn't included in this documentary. Explain?

If we can create a poll and sponsor a debate on the internet and allow the top 3 presidential candidate to debate and raise some money to be donated on a favored charity (homeless, jobless, food for poor etc) then moderated by someone who wasn't sold. Streamed via internet no cuts, no script just pure debate. And let the people decide.

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Full debates

Set third party debates for the same night as the repdem. Ask the same questions to each that qualified under 1 & 2. Broadcast on net. Later edit together for rebroadcast as if one debate.

Open Letter to RNC

Open Letter to RNC Delegates!!!

PLEASE HELP the Delegates vote PRESIDENT Paul!

http://www.dailypaul.com/250074/open-letter-to-the-rnc-deleg...

kind of offended

that no mention of paul was squeeked in. I get the point completely but at least a mention of republicans squeezing him out should have been done.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
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Different Concentration

This concentrates on what happens AFTER the nomination. If RP had gotten the Republican nomination, he would have gotten in the debates because he would be a party to the debate contract.

However, RP did say that he did not want to run third party because he would not be allowed in the debates. That could be an example of how access to the debates might influence those who might decide to run.

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A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

hm

yes, but even still there is not even any media coverage of these other parties even before the candidates are selected. I mean irregardless of the point of the movie it is still something valid to state that if they are selecting questions and people to "debate" with it should stand to reason to show an example of exclusion even before they are selected for their respective nominations. no?

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

Agreed

We are on the same page. Yes, the problem is much deeper than the general election debates. However, you might not be familiar with the "No Debate" material, which just concentrates on the debates that take place after the nominations.

Gene Louis
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Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
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ya

I remember watching some of the debates with clinton and later with junior and gore and just scratching my head haha. I learned about the presidential debate committee after the "love fest". At that point in time I thought, "government cant be this stupid its the government of the United States for pete sake". Its funny looking at it now with what I know now.

I also remember seeing Ross Perot shunned on msm stations and now that I've looked into him more he had some good points and wasnt the shill he was made out to be. Once the blinders are off it is really just shocking.

This movie is a good opener for slowly trying to show others how messed up the system is though since most people seem to just completely shut down once you mention Dr. Paul.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

i like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2rMnov4Ae8&feature=related

They should really have done one with a bunch of american banker ceo's having a great time in some other country on vacation and throw in a fake bernanke. hell thats even a good idea for libertarian and constitution parties as well.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

This needs

to go viral.... I know it's been said before, but this is some hard hitting truth.

My only complaint is that the filmmakers never showed any of this footage from RP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o271ZIkYr4&list=FLHNfE2CQobR... It would have made this video perfect. Maybe the filmmakers don't like RP. Who knows...

I bet anyone 10oz of silver the filmmakers watched the above video and chose not to include it, for whatever reason.

What is freedom? Freedom is the right to choose; the right to create for
yourself the alternative of choice. Without the responsibility and exercise
of choice a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a thing.
-- Archibald Macleish

yes

This is a very strong point he made back then. some of this definitely needs to be cut into the film.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

No Mention

No mention of Ron Paul throughout that entire piece. What's up with that?

Common knowledge.

This is common knowledge to anyone who watches the debates and has half a brain. They dumb down the debate to irrelevant talking points and never press the candidates answer the question. Every answer, the candidate just goes on some irrelevant tangent, its a joke. Not like it matters in the end though, I'm betting less than half of the voting pool watches them.

This Is Not For You

The people on this site already know what is going on. The value in this video is a tool that might be useful to teach others. The voting majority refuses to elect anyone outside the monopoly parties, even though there is no substantive difference. This forces everyone else to believe that they must vote for the lessor of two evils if they are going to have a say in the election. This video gives some solid evidence on how the parties manipulate mesmerized minds in order to dominate.

Gene Louis
http://www.survivaloftheslickest.com/
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

exactly

that is exactly what it is and should be.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

technology will make this tv debates unnecessary

in a few years, maybe a decade, every television will have access to the internet. people will stop listening to the msm. your television will be not your msm machine anymore! your television will be able to show you the truth! then they will be really informed and know who should debate and who shouldn't.
hail to the internet, bringer of light in darkness, bringer of ideas and bringer of real news.

google is already starting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dF_yp6UzXA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rShriwnc1Q

in a few years maybe a decade,

the two parties will have complete control over the internet

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
-Benjamin Franklin

it's the internet

it can never be controlled...never. maybe they'll try, but it won't work. internet users will always create something and find a way to make information available for everybody.

You're Right

Just look at China They ban most social media sites yet 100's of millions of people still use FB,skype ect... It takes 5 mins to get around the govt controls. Old people will still be locked into tv or govt controlled sites but the young people will always be miles ahead of the govt

Finally

A conspiracy documentary I can "up vote".

Since both parties are COMPETING for POWER, it is no wonder

that neither party wants there to be open mike questions and discussion on the merits of the Constitution and the necessity of restraining the Federal Power. Let the Power of States and the Peoples enlarge while The Federal Government is starved down to Constitutional size.

With all due respect, I will no longer be a voting prostitute for Constitution rejecting harlots.

Thanks for this one.

good doc. pretty surprised not to see dr. paul.
seems like he could have lent some significant insight.

Ross Perot was polling at 7% when --

he was included into the presidential debates -- after the debates he was polling as high as 38%.

#LetGaryJohnsonDebate

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Why not compete?

With the advent of internet television why not organise a separate debate for third parties? Let the third parties hold their own debates and invite the other two parties.

The television networks are losing viewers at a rapid rate and convergence in communication technology is here now. There is no reason why the other parties cannot simply go around the Commission of Presidential Debates and hold their own debates. This is what a free market is supposed to look like.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

That Was Tried

I don't remember the year but there was a third party presidential debate in the past. The voting majority selects the winner of a political contest. The voting majority did not watch the third party debates - no ratings. By separating them, it says to the public that there are a few kids playing and there are the big boys.

I would not have known anything about Ross Perot if he had not gotten into the debates with the monopoly guys.

Gene Louis
http://www.survivaloftheslickest.com/
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

Then try again.

The communications media have changed dramatically as I pointed out. Convergence is a reality now. The debate would be prefaced by a description of the warped Presidential Debates Commission as at present constituted. In other words the debates could be used to change the entire electoral system if used wisely.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)