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The U.S. government is not the same our country

I don't agree with all that's in the article. For one, I would not equate it with corporations - our government was entrusted with certain responsibilities to protect our rights. But, it's an important distinction. Thanks for the post.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Have you ever seen this?

Have you ever seen this? http://jim.com/treason.htm

Someone gave me the link a few days ago...the same person who gave me the P. Henry link. I scanned the Spooner doc...I don't know what to think about it. A quick scan will give you the idea. It is a little frightening to me to read such a thing.

Hi, bear

More food for thought! It looks interesting, though for now I only read the preface and end. I've got to read it in its entirety (as/w Patrick H., still patiently waiting here). In the meantime, though, I'm not worried.

As it says, the Constitution (as a "contract") was nothing that could bind anyone in the future; but that would seem to hold true for any and all constitutions, everywhere. I believe ours has the longest-lasting of all. But yes, it's all voluntary. Our founders themselves wondered if it would last. John Adams said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The piece ends with something that does sound alarming: "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain — that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case..." It's true the Constitution itself has no power: the power resides in the people. We haven't actually been powerless, though. We have failed to USE our power. But people are beginning to wake up, so I'm hopeful.

So, you've given me my next TWO assignments! As I mentioned, I've been needing to take care of something since last week. I've been cheating here, sneaking onto the Daily Paul the last few days - mostly because I was so upset about that Marine. I'm so happy today! Then, of course, once here I get hooked by the title of some post or someone's comment. Well, I was happy to see yours. So bye for now, and keep that inquisitive mind searching for TRUTH!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I figured I'd run into you again here on the DP!

I thought of you when I got that link and figured I would run into you sooner or later. The boys were at soccer so I had some free time to roam. I am still hopeful for a miracle in Tampa. It is all I know to do at this point.

It seems that maybe the things the founders said have been used against us as our republic has been dismantled. I have had that thought before.

We have Amish here and I like to help them. One of the older ladies has cancer so I have been taking her to town weekly. On one of the trips her husband mentioned their daughter had been at the hospital because of dehydration. I asked why and he was very sheepish when he told me she was "in the family way." I remember my grandmother telling me they never said the word “pregnant” when she was growing up.

This week when I took the Amish to town the TV was on in the waiting room there was a discussion of rape and abortion going on. That was after I changed the channel from a soap opera love scene because I was embarrassed for the Amish. We were in mixed company among strangers. I wondered how it made the Amish feel to hear those things spoken about so freely and the fighting and debating over the issues.

It caused me to think how different things must be now that we discuss all of these things in the public arena since we are now so free with our language. I don’t think we really have any idea what our founders were talking about when they said “moral.” I had even forgotten all about that conversation with my grandmother when I was a child. Seems the Amish still don’t speak about it in mixed company…

Better Off: Flipping the Switch on Technology

I think this is a book you might enjoy, bear. Someone at M.I.T. was in the "Science, Technology, and Society" program - but he felt it was a tad biased, and that got him to some thinking. Everyone always spoke about the benefits of technology, but might there not also be trade-offs? A chance meeting with someone from an Amish-type community led him on a journey to find out for himself. (I believe this was his masters thesis.) The first step was getting himself and his wife accepted into the community. Well, his wife was his girlfriend until then; they had to get married or she couldn't come along! They made arrangements to stay for 18 months - namely so as to experience one full agricultural cycle. It's a wonderful book on community, family, work, faith... The book's title sums up his findings. If you're interested, you can read the Prologue and first couple pages at Amazon. Okay, now I'm really logging off!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Thanks for the book title

I've added to my reading list. It sounds like it is right up my alley. I'd like to be Amish, but my husband isn't going for it, I probably couldn't hack it anyways. The book might be the next best thing!

It's a quick and enjoyable read.

Eric Brende and his wife would like to have stayed in the community, but as it turned out, (bearing in mind it was a farming community) his wife developed an allergy to hay. And so, they did the next best thing themselves. After what you said, I'm sure you'll love the book.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir