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Is it Clear Yet? Ron Paul will not be the GOP Nominee

its time to unregister as republicans, register as libertarians and start supporting Gary Johnson

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You cant wait just...3 more

You cant wait just...3 more days, to possibly say this? I mean really, we are literally 3 days away from seeing what happens.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

There is also the Constitutional and Green Parties

I want to see Ron Paul run as the VP in all three third parties at the same time. No more the thieves distracting people with abortion and marriage debates.

Attn: Paulreal, come back to this site when both Gary and Jim the VP decide to resign to give the Libertarian spot to Paul

In Philly PA RichardKanePA

Clear? Are you kidding? Hell

Clear? Are you kidding? Hell no it isn't clear, and of you think it is you are not paying any damn attention! This whole thing is shenanigans, the story changes from minute to minute. NO ONE knows what the hell is going and the Romney camp is clearly nervous about something!

How can you be such a closed minded idiot, and why would you want to take a shit on Gary Johnson like this!? If you think you're doing him any favors with this you're an absolute baffoon! You're just turning people off of him! FOOL!


that gary johnson never had a chance and he is shittier than obamney

I despise both parties and

I despise both parties and wish them both a quick death.

""If we keep together we shall be safe, and when error is so apparent as to become visible to the majority, they will correct it." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas W. Maury, 1816. ME 18:291 "

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

No it is not clear. The nomination takes place on Monday.

We will just have to wait and see. Just take a deep breath and relax. I know I feel like I am sitting on pins and needles too.


It's even more important to try for the Hail Mary

since this is the last year that we can try.

Right ON - Hail Mary!

We could make a new definition for it, "A Hail Mary pass in American politics refers to any very long forward pass made in desperation with only a small chance of success, especially at or near the end."

This is it, folks. . .yo, Hail Mary, yo!

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

I can vote for GJ while

I can vote for GJ while remaining a thorn in the side of the corrupt Republican establishment, IN THE PARTY!

At this point, you can just vote

No unregistering and re-registering necessary. There will be like 20 candidates for president whether Ron Paul is on the ballot or not. We will know for sure in a few days. Be patient.

"Is it clear yet?" Excuse

"Is it clear yet?"

Excuse me? Prior till this week, we were heading straight for Paul's name being put on the ballot. We had our 5 states, and our delegate support. Had the RNC not violated it's own rules (which, at such a degree, there is little to do about) this week, we would have been certain to get his name on the ballot.

Don't try and pretend you knew this all along. You are not helping yourself or Johnson by trying to act like you knew this was going to happen.

pretend? I called this over a long time ago

we had the odds stacked against us to begin with-but when benton caved and Ron Paul went along it was over.
Go check out my prior comments and post

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he did poll nearly 25% at one point

in the early states. unlike johnson. i'm talking about legitimate polls in the heat of gop primary battles by likely republican voters, not polls by god knows whom on potential 19 year olds

Screw voting.

get involved in politics and activism.

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Go campaign...

Go campaign some where else for GJ. You are really hitting a nerve with me and I don't feel like battling you verbally. GFY



And leave it that way. Don't vote for anyone. There is no redress of our grievances at the national level.

Depressing, isn't it?

Sure don't like Obama, but I can't hardly pull a level for Mitt and the RNC, after all their crooked dealings. How can anyone stomach such putrid behavior? Don't know much about Gary Johnson, but he'll probably get my vote. Can somebody PLEASE figure out how to break up the 2 party system!

alan laney

you break it up by not supporting it

Ron thought he could bring the GOP round to his side but the neo con base and money is too much.
Having Rand co-opted didn't help either.

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Vote Backstabbing Bob Barr again!! Drink the Koolaid!

Sign up to a RP site and be an assh*le annoying everyone with a guy no one can relate to and like--GREAT PLAN!

Fight the Ron Paul blackout on the Daily Paul (now 'P AU L'), put his removed poster back as your avatar:

in 1988 Ron Paul was on the ballot in 46 states

as the libertarian candidate
he got half a million votes
this time he will be on the ballot in ZERO states
Gary Johnson as the 2012 libertarian candidate will be on the ballot in 50 states and get single digit percent
of the votes (millions of votes)
imagine if ron paul was the libertarian nominee?

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what is your end point?

i always knew paul's bid either in 08 or 12 will need somewhat of a miracle. his '12 run surprised me by a large margin already. i initially thought it would parallel the '08 run, until i thought of the economic situation and it all made sense.

why i donated 2k to paul even though i knew chances were slim? it's because he continues to pull in people despite what is a failure strictly in political terms. he arouses tremendous energy and continuously infuses the movement with new blood, something johnson and LP have yet to do on their own without paul. ya i realize that's exactly what you're trying to do here, if you succeed, you can say gary's bid is summoning tremendous energy.

but since i am your target audience, i can just tell you in the face right now as kind of a feedback to how you're performing--barely. gary himself isn't particularly exciting, and neither is your mannerism particularly appealing. i guess gary's supporters tend to be the same ilk. hey don't just ask me--look around you. who else previously disinterested in paul are finding tremendous liking in johnson in large numbers and are willing to drop obama over it? where are the gj signs? you think it's us paul supporters' fault there hasn't been gj signs all over the US? really?

I will not vote for that

I will not vote for that interventionist neocon. He may be better than Obomney, but I refuse to vote for the lesser evil. We will continue to take over the Republican party and will eventually elect a real liberty candidate.

You just dont get it do you?

You just dont get it do you?

This isnt about one man, this isnt about Ron Paul. This isnt about the GoP or being a Republican. This isnt even about POTUS.

YES we want Ron Paul to win and guide this great country back to its roots, but this nomination is only the first of many battles. Even if we won, do you really think this battle is over?

I questioned exactly what did you learn from Ron Paul if you are in fact a Ron Paul supporter?
You obviously just dont understand that this is about a message, and Ron Paul was just the messenger.

You cannot get GJ votes here, you cannot recruit Libertarians here. You cannot decieve those whos eyes are open. We did not become Republicans because we are Republican, just as we will not become Libertarians because we are Libertarian. We do this out of necessity.

This is about changing the whole damn corrupt system and you cant do that from the outside. This is the first of many battles to win back America from the hands of those who would use the political system to thier own advantage.

Step 1:
We will join and stay in the republican party, we will take it over, removing all the corruption from within.

Step 2:
Then we will join and stay in the democratic party, we will take it over as well.

Step 3:
We will then go join the Libertarian party and remove the corruption there, because corruption will flock to anywhere power can be taken, and it must be extinguished.

It must be nice that you dont actually stand for anything other than a name "Libertarian," and with no options or fighting power left you want to feel like your making a difference so you vote for GJ.

But do what you want Libertarian, go join your named party and feel welcomed, leave the real fighting to us, the Sovereign Citizens of the United States.

You want real change? Go run for office.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

shouldn't we just continue to take over GOP chairs?

We don't need Ron Paul for that. Once established one of us can run for the nomination and actually win. Hasn't that been the ultimate plan all along?

yup thats the plan

We will remove the corruption from the GoP, the DNC, and anyone else who rises up when those parties are pure again.

I'll take some.

Sign me up for whatever you are smoking brother. It just will not happen, at least in this century.

Not by you obviously,

but then your a defeatist. See the difference is, I win in life because i know i can. You are a loser, because you expect to lose.

Its honestly as simple as that.

You might also want to get your eyes checked because we are already doing it...its a shame you cant see that...

Classy Anthony

What you have done is equivalent to one flea on the worlds biggest dog. It won't last. Reality is reality. Too many people around here have been in denial for months. Within just a couple of days the RNC has handed our ass to us with the stroke of a pen. Even our supposed allies are now sleeping with them. Do you really think it is worth trying to hit an ever moving target?

I don't.

There you go again!

"I dont think i can win, so i wont even try..."

and you still fail to understand that these next few days mean nothing.

Can you not see we are provoking thier hand in every situation they LOSE. They are corrupting the system openly because they have no other alternative.

How do you cure a sickness?

1. Identify the cause of the problem.

2. Eradicate it.

The war has just begun.