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Adam Kokesh Officially Not Welcome at the Sun Dome

The following instructions regarding Adam Kokesh are contained in the packet of information for volunteers being trained to help at Ron Paul’s Sun Dome Rally–expected to draw over 10,000.

"This man is not allowed into the Sun Dome or After Party. If you see him, immediately call USF Police or Ron Paul Security..."

See the image http://iroots.org/2012/08/25/adam-kokesh-not-welcome-at-ron-...

*If you see someone posting this photo w/ the security official's phone number, ask them to remove it. The last thing we want is Paul’s security distracted by this!




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In the midst of all the

In the midst of all the stress, nobody seemed to notice...but I stake my life on this fact; Ron Paul has been threatened by these f*@ks and in a way so grim it caused him to en d his active campaign effort right at its peak growth, he abruptly stopped having the rallies that grew continuously prior to his meeting with Ben b. He at the most crucial time to feed the fire that was ready to burn wild, what he worked for his life time, and the reason we love him so and he just dump water over it, and stole the wind right from our sails leaving us all in shock. This is on my phone so its not perfect, but Dr Paul when asked of his with bernake what was talked about he said it was personal. Can anyone say Rothschild international scum bankers? Romney and obamas puppet masters. We must deal with this. I seen what he went through in my minds eye and its grounds for war on this family and the entire 1%.

Don't hate the player, hate the game!!!

So Ron Paul Had a personal conversation with bernake

Maybe he threatened bernake's dumb ass or maybe they talked about prostate health issues.

POINT IS YOU ARE IMAGINING what was said. Compare that ONE conversation with the HOURS spent barbecueing bernake & the DECADES Paul spent trying to get him on the grill at all!

Y'all are crazy. Smoking that sh*t is messin up your clear thinking.

I admire Kokesh's heart, but he is a man in emotional rage & pain & needs help.

You may be right...who knows

You may be right...who knows except Dr. Paul.

I think it came down to money as well. You can only go as far as your bank account will take you.

His campaign has been a victory, win or lose. The message of freedom and liberty grows daily.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

ecorob's picture

true...

they threatened his grandchildren and he KNEW they would do it!

bastards

how do we fight this?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

This is probably based more

This is probably based more on Kokesh's violence based comments in the past then anything. He's a security threat no matter who politically you are. This reaction is normal for anyone.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

This guy makes a joke out of

This guy makes a joke out of the liberty movement. He immediately accuses anyone with another opinion (even Lew) of being a traitor, shouts death threats, is constantly disruptive, hates religion (especially Catholicism), is open about his drug use and seems to enjoy irritating people. I can see why he might be like this, given constant big government oppression, corruption within the Republican Party and possible PTSD from his time in Iraq, but that doesn't give him any right to behave in this manner.

What???

no right to behave in this manner. So how is he infringing on others rights... or do you get the libertarian message at all???

"compromise"

The poster's name says it all, don't ya think?

Adam's 5th video on DMT -- Talks about "asexual orgasm"

"A big, red, 5-minute asexual orgasm" is what he titled the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZq6BAkxsI&feature=player_de...

I will get down-voted for posting this, but it's from Adam's YouTube page -- these are not private videos, he's doing this as part of his catharsis.

I don't care if he does drugs on youtube

But I don't see how this helps Ron Paul get elected. I mean, this is a joke right? He is free to do what he wants...but watching him get high on the net and then bash the campaign is ridiculous. These videos should essentially make his arguments invalid. I am all for free will and the decriminilazation of drugs...but that doesn't mean I am going to listen or take advice from someone who is high. This is almost hilarious. It would be entirely unprofessional for Ron Paul to embrace his behavior and would alienate many people that would embrace libertarian ideals...I liked Adam as a media person until he started to go off the deep end. I probably would still like him as a person. However, as a so called leader in the movement...he is dead to me with these drug induced "tripping balls" vids. I can't take him seriously any longer.

how does this help?

Watching from the start, this video does absolutely NOTHING to promote the cause of liberty. We see a grown man learn, on air, how to smoke a pipe and then proceed to become aroused and cover himself with a pillow. Then he speaks of drug-induced orgasms? Putting something like that on youtube will only quicken the push for internet and video sharing censorship. He is being very disrespectful and irresponsible in this video, and to tell you the truth, I enjoy his guests MUCH more than him. I think he is still a child trying to find 'a purpose' in life. I would say the campaign is RIGHT in telling him he is not welcome. He seems to wish the liberty movement should turn to some drugged out nonsense of a movement. How do his actions reflect on us? The title of this video tells you... wtf? seems to hurt more than help.

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Why not outlaw everything

If Adam does something you don't like why don't we put him in jail for 35 years for class 1 drug use

What gives you the right to judge anyone?

TELL ME THIS ISN'T REAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnjusz1OYUw

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

Free-Association goes both ways -- Don't deny the RP Campaign

the right to non-association.

To NOT be forced to join is as important to being ABLE to join (freely).

Liberty is Free-to-Yea and Free-to-Nay

The RP Campaign said "Nay" to Adam Kokesh and his 45 second DMT-induced Orgasms.

No one is saying he should go to prison for god sake -- how do you make that leap in logic?

I'm not pro-Gov't, you could not find one post where I'm "pro-Gov't"

I am for free-association the right-to-yea and the right-to-nay.

As you should be.

BULLSHEIT

bump... and to forceful remove a person is BULLSHIET

Humanity is on the Brink of Something Amazing (Adam Kokesh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnjusz1OYUw

You guys better rethink what freedom means.. if you think we should exclude people... what makes the Ron Paul revolution better then the Romney revolution... the FREEDOM Of IDEALISM

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

What is the difference between us and anyone else

Down vote all you want... but think about it, who has excluded us from the convention? romney and company.

What makes the RP campaign better when they exclude a HUGELY prominent figure of the liberty movement?

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

this stinks of Benton

A lot of people criticize Adam for his style and actions, but I have never heard anything from him that would lead me to doubt his commitment to the cause. The same cannot be said for many of the campaign stooges, like Benton and company. It seems like Adam made one big mistake with the PAC thing, but other than that, the rest seems to be irrelevant. He has the titanium balls to actually engage in civil disobedience, which earns him much respect in my eyes. And the fact that he doesn't pussyfoot around Benton's incompetence is not a black mark in my book. In conclusion, this move seems petty and low.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

from facebook

Michael Lyons : "This is what I was telling you Chuck. Adam was not acting out of self pity or some kind've vendetta, the guy was acting as an estranged leader.
As things stand the group might be heading to Paulfest, but it will be doing so without a clear leader, which is bad.
I am just sad that Kokesh and the campaign could not communicate better up until this point, which I can safely say is not Adam's fault."

Tim Fulton : "You're wrong, Mike, it is ABSOLUTELY Adam's fault. I was there in DC, I marched with Kokesh and the VfRP on the White House. Adam stood on a stage and told us "VfRP is just a facebook page", we were just a bunch of veterans who pulled tog
ether in response to a common cause, and Adam, Nathan Cox and Zak Carter helped organize it. About two weeks later Adam created the Veterans for Liberty Super PAC, and claimed "Veterans for Ron Paul is a project of Veterans for Liberty Super PAC". It's still written there on the bottom of the Veterans for Liberty Super PAC home page. The moment he did that, Adam made it impossible for the campaign to acknowledge us, the Veterans for Ron Paul. So it is Adam's own fault that the campaign "estranged" him, "snubbed" him...however you want to call it. The campaign CANNOT interact with a PAC. I told Adam this back on March 9th, the day Adam announced the PAC, Adam and I had a quite public falling out on the VfRP2012 wall. I was banned from the VfRP, was asked to come back, and refused until today, when it was announced that Adam walked away. But that is not the only reason Kokesh and the campaign could not communicate. I acknowledge and support Adam's right to get high, and do it publicly, but when he's making YouTube videos of himself smoking DMT, he nor we can rightfully expect the campaign to embrace that and put him onstage with Ron Paul. Adam has no tact, and that is why Ron Paul held him at arms length for so long, and then stopped acknowledging him altogether. Adam was toxic to the cause. I was there in Springfield, they didn't try to keep anyone off the stage except Adam. I was on the stage, Nathan was on the stage, about two dozen of the VfRP were on the stage, and Adam was the only one they tried to keep off of it. So, it was Adam that was driving the wedge between Ron Paul and the Veterans for Ron Paul, and Adam has done the right thing to step down."

Tim Fulton put the whole thing in a nutshell -- thanks for

posting this.

If Mike Tyson can re-invent himself, then Adam can too.

I know I would like Adam face-to-face -- but my charge against him is based on the fact that he took and accepted RP's endorsement.

Adam actually put 4 or 5 videos of him smoking DMT on Youtube.

I have nothing against DMT -- what I dislike is that there are young people who look-up to Adam and who do not have a chemistry degree, are not MD's, nor research scientists which is what you need to be to chemically determine if what you've been given is DMT or some PCP derivative.

A RP endorsement has "value"

This is why one can never give out endorsements -- you can't "certify" greatness or nobility.

got it . . .

*shaking my head*

I understand about cynicism towards elections--

I'm there, as is my spouse (half of 1988vote), and we are working to become as self-reliant as an old couple can be--and still take care of our dependent children in our 60s--

full-time job--it took a lot for us to donate time and money to the campaign--

it wasn't much compared to many, but it was a sacrifice to us--

I'm done with the GOP; I'm done with all the parties, but for over 30 years Dr. Paul has inspired me with the ideas of personal liberty--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

emalvini's picture

He Sounds Ike A Complete Screwball

Is Adam an infiltrator or just an egomaniac looking for publicity for himself?

Does he have delusions of grandeur?

I've always had some reservations about this fella..

I think he's more like a

VET who woke up and got a lot of disrespect from Jessie Benton who of course, has done so much for Ron and US. Adam may have delusions of grandeur which is No different then 99.9999%(excluding Ron) of the other politicians out there, the difference is Adam's been there and is frustrated with the direction of our country.

I'd like to see you experience seeing children blown to bits or your buddies getting hurt and killed, and to come back with half the sanity level of this man. Don't get me wrong I do not know Adam from Eve and do not care, I think he is passionate about trying to save this country before it is too late.

And no I am not his blood brother, I'm his universal brother as I am yours.

That's all fine and good.

But you'd think that just not allowing him to speak would be enough.

Okay sounds reasonable.

Now, tell me why the campaign held Mr. Tactful himself (Tom Woods) at an arms length, not to mention countless others?

Tom Woods is involved with REV PAC

Tom Woods is involved with REV PAC

Not to mention that

Tom Woods disassociated himself long ago.

Woods and RevPAC

Woods got involved with RevPAC when it became clear the Benton machine had shut him out of the campaign. You have the order reversed.

Anyone know if this is official?

Or just part of a bigger divisional tactic, like the weed in the delegates hotel room.

SteveMT's picture

I'm opposed to this action and here's why.

The barring of Kokesh from the Sun Dome is the same as the GOP barring Ron Paul from the RNC. Ron Paul is inclusive, not exclusive. Using this erroneous way of thinking, Alex Jones should be banned from attending, along with Jesse Ventura, and Gerald Celente. They have all voiced their concerns about how the campaign was run. Many others have "bashed" not only the campaign, but Ron Paul himself. Should they be barred from this event as well, should they appear? This sounds like the start of an enemies list, which is in direct contradiction to everything that Ron Paul has stood for. Is this post for real?

Wow.

You brought up points I hadn't even thought of. In my opinion this ban of Adam was brought down specifically by Benton. Why? Because if the ban wasn't personal then as you said, Jesse, Gerald, Alex, along with many others would also be on this list.

On top of that, why would they publicly post their ban? This stinks of attempt to embarrass or even discredit Adam. I'd say under normal circumstances this information would have been passed around ONLY to the security teams at the Sun Dome.

This is absolutely ridiculous. My suggestion to anyone attending...provide cover for Adam if he comes.

I bet this is coming from

I bet this is coming from Jesse Benton. That Romney mole is why the liberty movement is in shambles.