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Audit the Pentagon!

Rand Paul to call for audit of the Pentagon?

"Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul will use his prime-time speaking slot at the Republican National Convention to urge party members to be more open to scrutinizing military spending, a position that puts him in the minority within the GOP."

My gut reaction is that this is excellent if sincere.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rand-paul-message-republi...

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Do we have a bill # on this yet?

Do anyone know?

Assembly Bill: THE REMOVAL OF THE CAPITAL , 1864 - Mark Twain

By Mark Twain, February 16, 1864

    Audit? Rmove the whole dang mess!

EDITORS ENTERPRISE: I [Mark Twain] have just returned from the [Nevada] Capital, where I have been a Legislative spectator for a while. The strongest conviction which the experience of my visit forced upon my mind was, that the Capital ought to be removed from Carson City.

I think you would be of my opinion if you could see with your own eyes, and hear with your own ears, the doings of the Legislature for a few days.

My first and best reason for thinking the Capital ought to be removed is, that while it remains in Carson, the Legislative Assembly is beyond the pale of newspaper criticism - beyond its restraining influence, and consequently beyond the jurisdiction of the people, in a manner, since the people are left in ignorance of what their servants are doing, and cannot protest against their acts until it is too late. Your reports of proceedings take up as much room in the city papers as can well be spared, I suppose, and they are ample enough for all intents and purposes - or rather, they would be, if the Virginia newspapers could stay in Carson and criticize these proceedings, and also the members, editorially, occasionally. A mere skeleton report carries but an indifferent conception of the transactions of a Legislative body to the minds of the people. For instance, in the style and after the manner of one of these synopses: Mr. Stewart gave notice of a bill entitled an Act to audit the claim of D. J. Gasherie. A day or so afterward, we learn that according to former notice, Mr. Stewart introduced his bill. You hear of it again in some committee report. And again, as having been reported "favorably' by a Committee of the Whole. Next, your report says Mr. Stewart's bill passed by so many ayes, and so many noes. The work is done; none of your readers have the slightest idea what Mr. Gasherie's claim was for, and neither does one of them imagine himself even remotely interested in knowing any thing about it. Yet the chief portion of your readers, I take it, were very particularly interested in that bill - because they will have to contribute money from their own pockets to pay Mr. Gasherie's claim; and they were further interested, on general principles, because the passage of that bill inflicted a great wrong upon the Territory. Now, if the Legislature had been in session in Virginia, under the eyes of the press, instead of those of six or seven idle lobby members, I doubt if Mr. Stewart would have introduced the bill; I doubt if the Committee of the Whole would have presumed to consider it; I know the House and the Council would not have passed it. When Mr. Elliott rose in his place and objected that this was a bill to provide payment of a sum out of the Territorial Treasury, amounting to between $1,800 and $1,900, for the maintenance by Sheriff Gasherie, of several Ormsby county paupers, the newspapers would have promptly seconded him in the suggestion that Ormsby county maintain her own paupers, and pay the bill out of her own pocket. And when Mr. Stewart acknowledged the justness of the suggestion, but said Ormsby had bankrupted herself by purchasing a set of fine county buildings, and must therefore beg this favor at the hands of the people of the whole Territory, the newspapers would have known all about it, would have demurred, and the members, with a sense of responsibility thus forced upon them would have intentionally voted no upon the bill, instead of voting aye without really knowing, perhaps, what particular measure was before the House. Moreover, several other outrageous laws, already passed, could never have been passed in Virginia. Twenty thousand dollars of the people's money have been asked for to build a seminary in Carson City and present it to two of her citizens - a private affair, and no more public in its character than Mr. Chauvel's fencing school here, and no more deserving of a Territorial appropriation of $20,000.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Rand is the future

Many of you judged him early on. He is smart enough to know that to make change you have to work from within. Say what you want about him but he will keep fighting for the right things.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

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I agree with you...

his voting record is very good and I believe he is a true supporter of the Constitution and limited government. I still believe endorsing Romney was a mistake, but everybody is allowed at least one of those in my book (which one of us hasn't made one on occasion?) I will support Rand at this point as long as he doesn't violate his oath of office. We need him in the Senate right now where he can continue to be a voice for liberty and if he keeps up the good work, I would consider voting for him as Pres. in the future....

Idea, Vetting Romney on the

Idea, Vetting Romney on the floor and nominating Ron Paul!!! Vetting Romney= Ron Paul 2012, Endorsing Romney is like tossing his salad and getting on your knees!

Ron Paul 2016

Great Idea After Fed Audit

Let's not start one job before we finish another. We need to email, facebook and speak to everyone we know to call their Senator to push the Audit SB 202. And we need to email and call Harry Reid everyday, several times a day until he gets the message. We also need to tell him to introduce a bill to audit the DOD.

Some videos you may have missed links re audit DOD.

http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/trillions_missing

http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/trillions_missing...

first time he mentioned this

that I am aware of was on the 31st on Fox News:
http://www.dailypaul.com/246956/rand-paul-audit-the-pentagon

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Rand misses the mark here.

Rand misses the mark here. Auditing the pentagon is a distraction from the real issue - ending the policy of policing the world and empire building.

A better "audit" would be an accounting of how much foreign aid ended up back in the hands of US military contractors.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Just like with the federal

Just like with the federal reserve...a full audit is necessary before we end it.

Disclosure is needed

If the pentagon were audited hopefully all those black projects regarding energy and propulsion systems would be disclosed.

UFOs are real
4 Hour Witness DVD (radar operators, pilots, scientists, military)
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud49Gh9yYLs
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpHAxxRKksQ

Audit Area 51!

Too soon?

I agree with you morken. The Gov. has had a 100+ year head start with energy tech like Tesla's. However, there are hundreds if not thousands of labs that have developed free/zero-point energy devices and they're just waiting to release them to the public when it's "safe" to do so. By that I mean, when the oil companies and their corrupt gov. lobbyists don't send someone in to take them out. In my opinion they should just release the tech as open source info. Gift it to the world! Oil wars would stop, hunger and poverty would end, we'd never pay for gas or energy for our homes again! Doesn't sound like a good business plan for these dinosaur corporations does it?

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

end government secrecy

• Open Source Amendment : bans secrecy altogether, any technology discoveries by government are immediately available open source

• Full Disclosure Amendment : all candidates for public office or government employee or contractor or subcontractor or corporate board must fully disclose all memberships in and affiliations with secret societies, clubs, organizations

• Sound Money Amendment : banning usury in all cases

• Individual Freedom Amendment : banning all government social programs, involvement in education and healthcare, and abolishing all family courts and striking all related family law from the books

He hits the mark in the bullseye!

If the pentagon was audited, Americans would find out that their tax dollars has NOTHING to do with "liberating" people, or making life better for Afghan women. It would in fact show that it is a private printing press for the Carlyle Group and Dick Cheney's Blackwater, Ze or whatever name this private "security" company is now called. US citizens would also find out that the Pentagon is the UNs private armed forces.
Audit the damn thing...the sooner the better.

We already know that the

We already know that the pentagon buys military equipment from the beltway bandits. Finding out that the pentagon buys from Boing isn't going to shock anybody. Okay, maybe the amounts will raise some eyebrows, but folks already don't seem to mind how much is spent on the military so this information is not going to make much of a splash.

What WOULD make a splash is the American people finding out how much or our foreign aid is redirected by the dictators receiving it BACK to the US military industrial complex.

THAT's the real story - how we expand the empire, buy the loyalty of petty dictators the world over, AND enrich the MIC elite to boot!

THIS is the area that Rand should ask to be audited.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

and maybe we will find out

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"former Republican

"former Republican presidential candidate" ...really?

My Apologies to Senator Rand Paul

I was one of those people who harshly chastised Senator Rand Paul on the Daily Paul for his endorsement of Romney. My post even got one of the highest vote up counts. However, as time has passed and as my emotions about the subject have cooled, I have opened up more to the possibility of a deeper strategy in his move. Would a Rand Paul run for President in 2016 be such a bad thing? I would completely support him, he is still a heavyweight of the liberty movement. Let's face it, to come out and say Audit the Pentagon right before the RNC takes balls. We are talking about one of the centers of the Military Industrial Complex here and he wants to go after it. God bless the Pauls.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire

Dittos

I too held the same feelings, but have come around and forgiven Rand in my heart.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Well said.

If I was an American I would support Rand Paul ALL the way.
He may "play the game" differently from his dad, but no-one would have a mentor like Rand Paul.

Standing alone

Ron Paul stood alone for how many years advancing the cause of liberty?

In 2012 - Rand let him continue to stand alone.

If Rand has a deeper strategy I'm sure Machiavelli would be proud.

Incidentally, I believe liberty is the heavyweight of the liberty movement.

I was at the Sun Dome

...and Rand was standing with his father. You'll NEVER see Rand at a Romney rally.

Actions speak louder than words. Think strategically, not emotionally.

DoMiNo: I was Also

And wasn't his speech great?
It was a wonderful sight...and Rand was cheered wildly.

And he didn't give a "Hawaiian Good Luck Sign"....see this:
http://www.dailypaul.com/239519/rand-pauls-hawaiian-good-luc...

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Yep, it was surprisingly

Yep, it was surprisingly good, and I didn't think the crowd would go so wild for him like they did

And I'm not sure about the hawaiian sign, I don't remember him throwing it up (or at least didn't notice)

Rand Paul Is My Man

I felt so sad while watching his speech live earlier today when there was audible boos when he was introduced by his mom, Carol.

That was the lowest point at the convention and in my opinion shouldn't have happened. I'm not saying people should disagree with him, but they shouldn't be disrespectful either. Especially at a convention about Ron Paul!

=cough=

I kinda think the crowd realized that and maybe that was after his mom reacted like a mamma tiger when she thought they were chanting boo at her son.

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

Yeah..I caught that. When

Yeah..I caught that. When they were chanting Paul 16. She was reluctant to leave the stage because she didn't know what they were chanting.

We need to reunite and support this man. We would be lucky to have another shot in 16! Don't screw this up people. we need him.

Billions For Iraq Reconstruction Lost To Fraud July 25, 2012

remember this?

July 25, 2012
As the end of the war in Iraq approaches its first anniversary, most Americans may not realize that billions of their taxpayer dollars are still being spent on Iraq “reconstruction” projects that are rife with waste, fraud and abuse.

In fact, the government has lost track of a large portion of the money and a special watchdog assigned to keep track of the never-ending scandal, the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR), has published a series of scathing reports documenting the corruption over the years.

The SIGIR’s latest audit, made public this month, reveals that at least $6 to $8 billion, earmarked for Iraq reconstruction, has been lost to fraud and waste. In all, Congress appropriated a whopping $51.4 billion to help the country recover from the war by, among other things, training local police, building schools, hospitals and transportation systems, but much of the money has literally vanished.

The funds were allocated to the Department of Defense (DOD), the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). Tens of billions of dollars have been spent so far and there seems to be no end in sight to the rampant abuse of taxpayer money. There have been lucrative contracts that never got finished, weapons and sophisticated communication equipment that can’t be accounted for and an unused police housing camp with an Olympic-sized pool and lavish trailers.

Last summer the Pentagon admitted that it lost 6.6 billion in cash that had been flown into Iraq in turboprop military cargo planes for post-invasion reconstruction! The money was bundled in chunks of $100 bills with each aircraft carrying about $2.4 billion. In all 21 flights made trips, transporting a total of $12 billion in American currency. More than half vanished however, and SIGIR Stuart Bowen confirmed it was “the largest theft of funds in national history.”

Bowen’s most recent report, the final forensic audit of Iraq reconstruction funds, reiterates that that billions of American taxpayer dollars are at risk of waste and misappropriations though the precise amount lost to fraud and waste can never be known because of poor record-keeping. However, Inspector General Bowen assures that its “significant,” to the tune of billions of dollars.

At least some of the players have been punished. As of last month, the SIGIR has helped federal prosecutors convict 71 individuals for fraudulent activities involving Iraq reconstruction funds, including bribery, inflating invoices and bid rigging. At least a dozen others have been indicted but the damage has been done and the funds will likely never be recovered. This is what happens when a bloated government program has unlimited funding and no oversight.
[Source: http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/07/billions-for-iraq-reconstruction-lost-to-fraud/]

Sorry, no can do,

by some miracle, an inept, unlicensed pilot managed to fly a hi-jacked 757, undetected, for an hour and a half, before crashing it with pin-point precision into the newly strengthened accounting department of the pentagon, killing the accountants that were looking for the missing 2.3 trillion dollars that Donald Rumsfeld could not account for.
Whoever audits the criminals in the Pentagon would not live long.

audit = war

Audit the Pentagon strike force must rapidly acquire all records and take them to multiple undisclosed locations under heavy air-support and anti-missile batteries. No-fly zone over BallWash the entire time. All Pentagon-related military installations worldwide are ordered to undergo total audits as well. Whistleblowers given immunity and deep-cover plus compensation for lost wages and benefits. Subpoena key leadership for testimony. Black-op secrecy cancelled for entire budget review process while national secrets of strategic importance audit process begins: goal is 90% reduction in secrecy.

At an historic press conference President Paul outlines for the American people the programs and technology which has been hidden from the world at Area 51 in Nevada as well as Dulce New Mexico.

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