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Letter from John Tate

http://libertychat.com

I’ve been doing conventions long enough to realize that when you don’t have the numbers, things will not go your way.

Today, we didn’t have the numbers. That is not in question.

Four years ago, the Republican Party simply handled our R3VOLUTION by slamming the door in our faces with hardly any consequences.

Today, the GOP establishment can no longer afford to employ these tactics.

Instead, they’ve adopted new ones.

Properly elected Ron Paul delegates were stripped from us. And when a motion was made to amend the Credentials Committee Report, it was ignored.

Morton Blackwell, a longtime conservative activist and RNC Rules Committee expert, found himself indefinitely detained – along with the rest of the Virginia delegation.

The RNC’s bus driver responsible for transporting delegates somehow “got lost” for well over an hour until a critical Rules Committee meeting adjourned.

Blackwell and the Virginia delegation were heading up the efforts to defeat new RNC rules proposed by Washington, D.C.-based insider attorneys.

These rules are designed to turn the Republican Party into a top-down organization and strip power away from state parties and grassroots activists of every stripe.

All efforts to vote down these onerous rules were ignored despite a clear split in the voice vote.

Sadly, these rules will now govern the party.

While it is almost certain we did not have the votes on the floor to win either of these battles, a fair and open debate and recognition of our motions would have been a better way for these problems to have been handled.

It didn’t have to be this way. And quite frankly, it’s a shame.

It’s a shame for Ron Paul supporters. It’s a shame for conservative activists of all stripes, and it’s a shame for the Republican Party.

However, you and I have much to be proud of.

Many of the amendments our campaign fought for were included in the new GOP platform. Four years ago, many politicians in both parties scoffed at our efforts to audit the Federal Reserve.

Now it’s in the Republican Platform – along with internet freedom, war only under a Congressional declaration, support for a gold commission, and fighting back against domestic drones.

We also forced the establishment to cave in and seat more of our delegates than they wanted to.

Instead of being shut out of the convention, Ron Paul was able to walk the floor and talk to his delegates Tuesday afternoon.

Coalitions that have been built over the past several weeks on these battles will last long into the future.

Our liberty movement is growing. It’s growing fast.

And the underhanded actions we’ve seen over the past week are sure to drive more folks into our camp.

I’m proud of our liberty movement. I’m proud of all we’ve accomplished. I’m proud of you.

I strongly believe you and I are the future.

Winning won’t be easy. Our opponents are determined to maintain their iron grip on power.

But their days are numbered – if I can count on you to keep up the fight.

The Ron Paul R3VOLUTION is not coming to end.

Our R3VOLUTION will not end until limited government, free markets, sound money, and respect for individual liberty, constitutional principles, and a pro-America foreign policy are finally restored in America.

And you will play a vital role in making this a reality.

For Liberty,

John Tate
Campaign Manager

P.S. The establishment is going to use every trick in the book to hold onto their power.

But they know you and I are the future of the Republican Party. Their days in power are numbered - if I can count on you to stay involved.

Our R3VOLUTION did not end today. It’s only beginning.



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john tate:

"But they know you and I are the future of the Republican Party. Their days in power are numbered - if I can count on you to stay involved."

Not Proud

Tate writes, “It’s a shame for Ron Paul supporters. It’s a shame for conservative activists of all stripes, and it’s a shame for the Republican Party.”
He would have done well to end it with that true statement.
However, and sadly, he continued:
“…you and I have much to be proud of.
Many of the amendments our campaign fought for were included in the new GOP platform. Four years ago, many politicians in both parties scoffed at our efforts to audit the Federal Reserve.”
Now it’s in the Republican Platform – along with internet freedom, war only under a Congressional declaration, support for a gold commission, and fighting back against domestic drones.”
Sorry, John. That is just naïve at best. Having the GOP platform amendments means nothing. It would mean something if the GOP intended to honor and pursue the platform. They will honor and pursue those platform items about as vigorously as they did their own rules and concerns of duly elected delegates in multiple states and at the convention. The platform amendments are meaningless.
“We also forced the establishment to cave in and seat more of our delegates than they wanted to.”
Again, meaningless. It’s like saying, we “forced” the bank to give us part of the money in our account, even though it didn’t want to. News flash: This was not a subjective matter of negotiation John! This is a matter of legally elected delegates having the legal expectation to be seated. Period. No “caving” required – let the rules and law stand as they should have stood.
“Instead of being shut out of the convention, Ron Paul was able to walk the floor and talk to his delegates Tuesday afternoon.”
This is something for us to be proud of? WTF? As though we must accept the baseline measure of what they did to him in 2008 as a valid baseline? RIDICULOUS. This is just a pathetic straw-grasp.
“Coalitions that have been built over the past several weeks on these battles will last long into the future”
Coalitions of what? Politically expedient, cynical compromise. Oh yes, that’s one to be proud about. Let’s hope these last long into the future. Puke.
“And the underhanded actions we’ve seen over the past week are sure to drive more folks into our camp.”
Two things on this one: 1)What camp? It’s blurred now; and, 2) “And the underhanded actions we’ve seen over the past week are sure to drive more folks into our camp” continue to disenfranchise the TRUE grassroots patriot-republicans.
I can’t even say “nice try” to John Tate on that part of his letter. It’s a transparent and superficial attempt to patronize Paul supporters in the face of a principle long proven: You cannot put new wine into an old wineskin. It will never work.

Let it begin!

Now the John Tate / Jessie Benton fundraising machine can swing into action. Coming soon to your email or snail mail box will be John Tate telling you how upset he is and how we will need to send him money to fight on, and live off the movement of course!

Reply Letter from Theresa Robinson:

Reply Letter from Theresa Robinson:

Mr. Tate,

I was a delegate in 2008 and the same shenanigans took place. However, there was no doubt that we were just learning back then. Cheers to the 2012 delegation; they fought hard.

But lets not mince words. Some like you and Mr. Benton attempted to end the "R3volution" when part of your strategy included disconnecting from the so-called "fringe" or "ragamuffins". I saw this happen in Virginia and some of us were discouraged from playing a role unless we were censored. Back in those days we were even told that we could not post words like "neocon" on the Campaign for Liberty website. It was top down GOP tactics like this that caused many to drop out of political efforts. Some of us talked about those experiences on the long trip back from Tampa to Richmond, Virginia. Bottom line, when you use top-down political strategies and people are encouraged to refrain from talking about topics that might be an embarrassment to the liberty efforts, this is exactly how the GOP behaves. Accordingly, we should not be surprised that the GOP treated our delegates like "fringe" and "ragamuffins".

We have emulated the GOP to take over the GOP. I can finally see the error in that thinking and it won't work any time soon. If and when libertarian/conservatives succeed in taking over the GOP, it will be decades. This country will be so splintered, anyone with any sense would not care about any political party. By using immoral tactics to gain power, what will become of the ideas we promote? Simple answer: We become like the GOP we criticized. We began acting like them, censoring and engaging in collectivist behavior. Mr. Tate, I fear that we are becoming them and that means we have damaged the R3volution, if not ended it. Like the Civil Rights movement, this movement will be characterized as the movement that was co-opted by the bad thinking of the GOP. The remnant that Ron Paul so eloquently speaks of won't be trusted by those seeking guidance in the future reconstruction.

We need to go back to practicing the principles we are asking the GOP to follow and then we can be assured that the R3volution won't be replaced with "RepubliCAN".

Great letter my friend

Thank you Gigi for posting this great letter.

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Not the least bit surprised. Many of us knew what the odds were

even if we hoped differently.

I will not vote Libertarian till you guys get your heads out of your butts. Twice now you've picked bad people.

I believe in 95% of the big "L" message but I don't trust who you're picking to carry that out.

Besides, we still hold seats in the RNC and will gain more over time and who knows.. maybe these new rules will be undone, maybe not. I'm going to wait and see what happens before I take off. I think at this point, it's premature.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

The establishment GOP will...

never let any liberty leaders into the top positions of power in the party. Tate says it himself above that they changed the rules so that it is now a top down organization. So why in the world are we wasting any more time screwing around in a rigged party that hates us? This is a stupid strategy to advance liberty. A complete waste of our resources.

Because the strength is in the numbers...

The more the numbers grow within the party who oppose the power brokers, the less legitimate and relevant they and their ivory tower rules become, until one day, they look around the room for their supporters and no one is there. That day is their judgement day...and it won't go well for them either. That's when you have them...CHECKMATE!

"Liberty tastes sweetest to those who fight for it, and most bitter to those who work to deny it!"

LearnRonPaul

Finally

A post by liberty chat that wasnt devisive

The ole "Mix in some good" to look more even.

Give it time.. as soon as the person feels the "heat" is sufficiently turned down, they'll start again.

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Good letter

Tells us the inside scoop on what happened with the Rules fight

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

I cant

explain how angry I am at this concerted effort to corrupt the process.

GET YOUR ULTIMATE REVENGE

TAKE OVER THE PARTY!

TAKE BACK WHAT BELONGS TO YOU!

FOR FREEDOM!