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Theft and Squandering: How I feel about Ron Paul's Nomination Outcome

I'm sad, frustrated and beaten. I haven't felt beaten about anything in my life except Ron Paul's nomination outcome. My feelings, however, cut both ways. The other direction is to Ron and his campaign.

His campaign changed starting a few months ago. I will not go into detail, but it was then the tone of Ron and some of his staff members laid evidence demonstrating that Ron wasn't campaigning to win, whatever the reason. Despite witnessing the campaign imploding, I kept thinking there had to an undercurrent ready to rise when the time was right, that on nomination day, today, freedom would surface and Ron would win.

Even though I mightily hoped a surprise would occur today, I knew tonight's outcome was going to happen. My want eclipsed my knowledge about how the USA is. Almost more than anything I've wanted, I wanted RP to win. But now, I cannot escape what is plain: This country is a sham. It's nothing but a fake and few people care. When I say few, however, I believe the number of people who voted RP is large, so large that I believe RP probably garnered the most votes out of all republican candidates four years ago and not probably but did gain the most votes this time. That's where the bulk of my frustration is targeted. It's not at us, the every day people, mostly. No. It's at the perversion in this country since before 1776, the insidious agents busier than a hornet to undermine this country to undermine the world to enslave the world.

After writing that previous sentence, I looked at it for a couple minutes. I wondered how many RPers agree with it, how many understand just what is going on, that life -- l-i-f-e -- is at stake. I wonder if most RPers, not really DPers because I think most of you do, grasp what is going on is nothing short of enslavement and that it's not a movie we're in, not a musical or play or some other fiction we can walk away from or turn off or place down. We're talking about reality, about life.

To be cyclical, returning to the beginning of my post, that's why I'm frustrated at Ron. For life to be at stake, I feel empty, short changed, stiffed by the RP campaign and, yes, by Ron. Ron had many opportunities to distinguish himself from Romney during debates to win debates, the spreading of his name and message to more people than how many received it. In January or February I wrote a post about how Ron could make the distinctions, and I hoped he would read it or someone on his staff would read it and pass it along to him. No tactics were used, however.

Instead of Ron painting with neon while Romney used pastels, there was silence and at times, what I think, contrived comments about friendship between the two candidates and their associates. Considering the silence, the fabricated friendship comments and all else that transpired from January to now, I can see RP's plan was not to win but to continue to rally people to freedom and set up Rand for 2016. That is why I'm upset. I did not campaign for Ron four years ago and now -- by creating and producing homemade fliers, giving out grips of Super Brochures, canvassing, sign waving, talking to strangers anywhere about RP and freedom, buying RP's books and other books, scouring the Internet to comprehend how the world works, debating online and offline, attending rallies and debating socialists at rallies, attending local meetings, copying RP and freedom DVDs and giving them out -- to rally people and for Rand's run four years from now, consequences and not purposes of the previous campaign and this campaign. What I did for Ron was for him to be president. Simultaneously, however, I think this: If Ron planned to lose, he wanted to lose or he was forced to lose. If he was forced, that is why I would keep on going with him in mind. Regardless of the cause of Ron's loss, DPer, I'm going to take a rest.

Thank you to you all. Each of you is needed in this war, the war for freedom. When I'm refreshed, I'll return. Until then, you RPer, take care.


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Disappointing as it is to say

I agree that at a certain point (admittedly high) the Campaign seemed to capitulate to who-knows-what forces.

I suppose improvements can always be made, but it is a shame to witness the implosion when so many gave so much (myself included) and were willing to take it to the bitterest of ends.

The stakes indeed are high, however I am grateful to Ron's contributions and am optimistic within the spirit of liberty moving onward

I hear ya. But I'm skeptical

I hear ya. But I'm skeptical about freedom's progression. I hope my skepticism is misplaced. We'll see. Anyway, thank you for your comment, MG. I feel comfort knowing you and others felt how I did, frustrated. Thanks, MG, and keep your attitude, your optimism. See you around on the DP, MG.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

I have always and will always trust Ron Paul

But I felt from the start of this 2012 campaign that Benton had no business being in the position that Ron trusted him in. But then who else could Ron trust that had run a campaign? I think that when Doug was introduced, he should have filled the position Benton held. But that's me.
Ron Paul has a heart of gold and his only fault is that he is a little too trusting sometimes and puts the wrong people into the wrong positions. I have that fault myself I guess, and so can sympathize with Ron when it comes to this problem.
I will always trust Ron Paul to stand for what I believe to be right as far as the constitution, the republic, and liberty are concerned.
Now if we just would have had people we trusted running the campaign or at least if the campaign would have been more willing to work with people we do trust, things may have turned out the way we all wanted them to.


This is why I moved to Gary Johnson.

Johnson is already running a MUCH better campaign on a fraction of the money. I feared this result when Ron Paul did not make even a token effort to have his name put in nomination for Speaker in 2010 after Rand's "neocon lite" campaign for the US Senate. Johnson ran two successful gubernatorial races in a "blue state" and successfully governed. Ron let the campaign staff he pays squander the greatest grassroots effort in modern history. We deserve better.

I am embarassed to report that early this year when I

called the Campaign For Liberty when i first got interested in Ron Paul, I knew he would not win.

The reason I knew was what happened to me on that day on the telephone and the internet.

I knew right away there was no PR or marketing manager.
I knew the website was non-functional for sending emails from campaigners to the campaign. The email DID NOT WORK!

i knew when I called on the phone the people were rude.
I knew this was not a well-oiled machine.

I knew Romney would win if for no other reason than he would put together a well-oiled machine. Systems that work. Marketing systems, campaign systems and communication and recruitment systems.

I was always hoping but I knew and the reason I knew is I have worked with Fortune 50s to Fortune nothings and I can tell the diff.

Ron Paul is a Fortune 10 guy with no desire to put together a functioning business model.

ok vote me down now. And lest you think I am not for Ron Paul, I am. I am just sad.


+1 for reporting your experience on RP's losing campaign

Thanks for the comment, Karen. I didn't notice those half baked aspects of RP's campaign, but I believe you.

My experience with the campaign was OK. I e-mailed campaign people who replied to my e-mails timely, answered my questions and referred me to someone who would know what I was looking for when that person didn't. The only problem I had is a quibble.

I talked to a couple people on the telephone. One man wasn't rude but was curt, as in short and not offering where I could turn to until I pried answers out of him. Other than that, I had a good experience, but from afar, from reading about RP's campaign and understanding how things in politics work, I kept on thinking, RP is campaigning to loose.

As I said above, however, I thought a miracle would happen. Nope. No such thing. Yes, I'm disappointed in RP, but when I think about that disappointment and how the world works, I'm glad he ran.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

Anyone Else Feel How I Did?

Before many days pass the staged Republican National Convention, I thought I'd comment to bring my post to Active Forum Topics. I'm wondering if anyone else felt how I did the night of that grandiose fakery.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

I do to a point.

During EVERY SINGLE debate, I would be tearing my hair out as to "WHY" Dr. Paul wouldn't be more assertive and go on the offensive. I realize that it's not his "style" to do so, and that he has also mentioned that he would refrain from attacking his fellow republicans.

I'm sorry, but to me that was an utter mistake when trying to WAKE the brainwashed masses. "WE" are already awake. He needed to "smack people with reality" and "dump a cold bucket of water on their heads" in order to reach those that don't bother to do their OWN research to wake up. He had a national platform to not only attack the Democrats, but to show the nation how BOTH parties have been intertwined with the same agenda. I've said it before - I think Dr. Paul's heart is TOO GOOD, and naively fails to see the bad in people (as he should in politics). He seems to have the mindset of "there are no bad people, only their actions are bad". I personally believe there are evil, selfish, narcissistic people, ESPECIALLY in politics and other high power level positions (bankers, ceo's, etc.)

If Dr. Paul was a younger man AND IF this country didn't have a chance of imploding due to the dollar's collapse and/or WWIII, I would have higher hopes for 2016. Say we DO make it to 2016, as it stands now due to the new rules, we now need 8 states to nominate him (or any other grassroots candidate). IF he gets 10 states, they'll change the rules on the spot again, AND/OR the "presumptive" nominee will VETO those delegates.

I used to log on multiple times on a daily basis. Now it's about 3 times a week. The DailyPaul has turned into something else entirely. The good Dr.'s picture has been removed, and there seems to be a large influx of comments bashing Dr. Paul - and they get upvoted???
This reminds me of how the original Tea Party was hijacked and transformed into something else.

"In short", yes I do feel like you, and it's even worse when some in THIS community here on the DP seems to have buried Dr. Paul while the body was still warm - with FULL blessings from TPTB here. I'm disgusted with it to say the least, but it is still a good place to gather information.

I'll be taking a rest (most likely permanent) from here myself soon enough as well.

I missed up my hair, too!

I missed up my hair, too! LOL. I rubbed it all around and contorted it in every which way while thinking, Ron, why aren't you explaining freedom, discussing your accomplishments in how they uplift freedom and asking your contenders what their legislation does or if not that, skipping it, just list their legislation and, if you're brave, explain that their legislation rises tyranny?? I mean, why not?? Ron had opportunity after opportunity to bury the fools. Unlike you, though, I believe Ron isn't naive about malicious people, believing they don't exist. I believe he knows they exist. Other than that disagreement, I concur with you on every point. Well said, ecard71.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.


You know why I say that? In interview after interview, I hear Dr. Paul state, "It's not that they're bad people, it's that they go about it the wrong way." Now we both know there are incredibly ignorant people in existence, but I have a real hard time believing that SO MANY of our elected officials in power are THAT naive. Hence my comment on that. Buy yeah, frustrating to say the least.

In reply to your reply to my post

you conjured up this song in my head, it's all your fault LOL, I just had to share it because I'm right there with ya except I blame myself rather than RP/Campaign etc, maybe I'm still too much of a "Paulbot" LOL

Enjoy the song: Joe Walsh - Life Of Illusion

You could see from my precinct post, I'm clearly still scratching my head too. I just refuse to deny my heartfelt instinct that RP IS the man we thunk him to be and that the Bernank put the squeeze on him.....just guessing.


Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

You cannot live in a world of

shoulda woulda couldas. That is a horrible way to live. You can only live with what you did. Be proud of what you accomplished. Many things happened that were unforeseen. When Ron lost the Ames Straw Poll, lost Iowa, Maine, New Hampshire, things were going against us. The grassroots did not turn out in Missouri. Jesse Benton. Blame is to be had all around.

Who knows what that meeting is about. The Fed is under tons of political pressure now. Implosion is imminent.

Keep it up South Carolina Butterfly. I will always remember how you said your (I think) daughter said Ron Paul was her grandpa. That was really touching. Anyhow, I figured I would share that with you.

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Just want you to know I

Just want you to know I replied. My reply is below this message. I don't want you thinking I left you hanging. OK. Take care.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

Paulbot here, lol

Well, all I know is I'm for freedom with or without Ron. I hope he wasn't set up to be who he was. Because the bad guys are how they are, who knows. Maybe they allowed Ron to do what he did all these years, maybe they talked to him long ago and directed him to do what he did.

My thoughts about RP pertain to glaring things such as time and again he didn't contrast himself to Romney. That speaks loudly. I cannot ignore that contrast absence. I just hope there are big players among the big players who are trying to drag down the evil and stamp it out of existence.

If all of American history (and more) was contrived, fabricated, manufactured, set-up in that man kept undermining and committing subterfuge to enslave man, I can see life is a chessboard and without a hint of conflict that Ron is but a piece on that board that shouldn't be life, which isn't to say Ron isn't who we think he is, a good, solid man for freedom.

If you were Ron, what else could you have done if asked to play freedom guy? See -- and what I'm about to say isn't a slam against Ron -- our promotion for liberty is more difficult, far more difficult, than Ron's if nothing else because of the advancements in technology since 1976, when Ron became a congressman. Those advancements, however, aren't advancements, they are tracking devices and they cannot be taken alone, outside of the conditions of life then to now.

Sure, I can type on the DP any time and write what I'll write, but in the fight against tyranny, what I write does little to no good broadly and it exposes me as a would-be dissident. What I write does, however, do good for a normal person who reads it, such as you, SC Butterfly, who read my comments to you in your post about what you should do in your local GOP. That's who I write for, the person who loves himself or herself and because of it recognizes that each human should love himself or herself if man is to live and live peacefully and free.

In turn, I write for myself. I want to improve myself mentally so I can influence people to improve themselves, a relationship functioning on reciprocity, fairness, where I think truth is attained.

All in all, I think highly about Ron, and I love him as a man, as a human. I'm content knowing I won't know how Ron Paul came to prominence, and now I'm content knowing I gotta live for freedom.

*ABBA hugs SC Butterfly*

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.