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I'm voting for Gary Johnson. Here's Why I am. And Why I Think You Should.

1. Ron Paul is no longer a candidate. I wish he still was but he is not.

2. To not vote is what about 40% of Americans do anyway, so that is not sending a message. Sorry Lew Rockwell

3. Voting for Romney is voting for the lesser of the two evils which is what the whole darn system is set up for.

4. Writing Ron Paul's name in won't show up in the results. Let's vote Libertarian and spike the numbers up at least some. Demonstrate that people are waking up and becoming involved.

5. Writing in Ron Paul's name when he is not a candidate looks like the movement was about Ron Paul, and not the cause of liberty. Sorry TMOT.

6. Voting for Romney is a vote for the status quo and rewarding the RNC.

7. Voting for and promoting Gary Johnson allows us to keep ourselves focused on the liberty message: Sound Money, Non-Interventionism, Personal Liberty, etc

8. Voting for Gary Johnson allows us to continue to tell our story to others. We can tell people why we supported Ron Paul and why now we support Gary Johnson.

9. We can still work within the Republican party to change it for the future, however because of their recent actions and their candidate, we will not vote for the Republican in the 2012 Presidential race.

10. Ron Paul was our first choice but we must carry on.

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You don't have to explain it to me

Use your free will and vote your conscience. I'm sure you'll do the right thing, just like Dr RP says.

I've decided for the most part that Gary Johnson is the best direction and I also like John Jay Myers for TX Senate because his values are in line with the founders.

I think YOU should vote for GJ, because

that's what YOU want to do.

I also think. Therefore, I do not need you to tell me what I should do.

I like how everyone is

I like how everyone is representing the Libertarian principles like this on here lately. I also think it's important to note this movement is about logic, and facts, not just doing what you want.

Wow! What planet was I on?

And all this time thought this movement was about limited government, non-interference abroad, protecting personal/individual liberty, restoring sound monetary policy, and upholding everything provided for in the US Constitution. Silly me?

first principles

These are from first principles, self ownership, property rights and more. This isn't a cult of personality movement [for me at least].

My reply was to mamo's comment.

The cult of personality movement to which you refer, has abslutely nothing to do with my reply to mamo. I do not engage in idol worship.

Perhaps you should direct your reply to mamo.

of course it doesn't

so don't ruffle your feathers over nothing.

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"Not just doing what you want?"

Excuse me, but an individual should always do what they want.

"Logic" and "facts" are in the eye of the beholder, and should be interpreted individually. To do otherwise, to give in to the "logic" and "facts" as interpreted by others, and to sacrifice one's own will would be to give in to collectivism.

Ron Paul has now said it a couple of times, and it bears repeating to all individuals and budding individualists:

Do what you want.

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Ron Paul Knows

Ron Paul knows we know to stay true to our Liberty message.

Ron Paul knows we know how to spot the difference between Liberty and Tyranny.

Ron Paul knows we know who the best, most Liberty-respecting choice is among the three candidates.

Ron Paul knows we know how to take the right path.

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Yes he knows.

GJ only became a Libertarian Party member 9 months ago after long service in the Republican Party.

Our defection was planned a year or more ago. They tried to get RP to run third Party because they didn't want us to spoil their show.

Too bad. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

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Gary Johnson is the BEST choice for us

Gary Johnson is the best choice for any Liberty minded American.

It is also the best choice to move the Liberty Movement forward.

Gary Johnson was anything but a standard Republican, much the same way as Ron Paul. Gary Johnson is a vocal, public supporter of Ron Paul.

The whole political landscape in 2014 and 2016 changes to our benefit, if we all vote for Gary Johnson.

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Repetition.

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I agree after all has been

I agree after all has been said and done I would not vote for Romney. Obama winning is the best option at this point. Why? Because it gives us a shot at 2016. A vote for Johnson is the cleanest way to vote for Obama. The republicans at the convention left us with no choice... Either vote Obama directly or Johnson a vote indirectly or write in Paul another Obama vote indirectly. Chose any one of these three and it is a vote for Obama. The other choice is vote Romney. After all the cheating Mob Romney has done NO WAY. The only bright spot in this election will be all the cheaters losing the race and a shot at 2016.

"Either vote Obama directly

"Either vote Obama directly or Johnson a vote indirectly or write in Paul another Obama vote indirectly. Chose any one of these three and it is a vote for Obama."

This line of reasoning is what got us this corrupt two party system. A vote for one candidate is never a vote for another candidate period. No vote of mine is ever a vote for Obama. If Obama wins it is because x number of people voted for him and less voted for anyone else.

It is simply facing

It is simply facing reality... The Democratic base is much larger than the GOP base. The Democrats win the base by default. The handful of base voters who jump ship, and the independent decide the election.

ie: Those folks at the convention chanting USA are going to vote Romney no matter what... As will the Democratic base for Obama... The rest will decide the outcome. If all the rest vote Johnson, third party, and write in Paul it is an Obama victory.

Also Swing states are the only ones that really matter in the above.

Since 1960 Ive watched this battle rage.

Only rarely did a Constitutional voice get heard, but never into office.

The Presidential race is a distraction while our Congress runs wild on the USA Charge Card.

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True.... I also left out that

True.... I also left out that this all also assumes our votes are fairly counted by the diebold "hacked" system

No it changes nothing.

Aiming at electoral victories but pretending we can beat the Diebold tabulation gnomes is a problem.

Just one of the many.

Another is all the dead people that are on the voting roles in several states at once.

There are a thousands of tyrannies that need exposure.

Opportunity cost. Where should I spend my labor? On a vote that hopes to counter the MSM mass manipulation.

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You fuckers are so stupid it hurts.

Johnson is telling you that he isn't Libertarian and you people are refusing to see the red flags.

Your "Libertarian" candidate has none of the hallmarks of a true Libertarian. Been a "Libertarian" for how long and doesn't know shit about Austrian economics? When asked about how he votes.. He bases it on cost analysis? NOT whether or not it's Constitutional. Ever asked yourself what would happen if it made good economic sense but would fuck over rights in some way as in another tax?

Did you know he was against same-sex marriages in New Mexico?
You people have not vetted this guy anymore than you did Bob Barr.

Ever ask yourself how the fuck did someone like that douche get the Libertarian. Do you care that neocons have all but taken over your fucking organization and have circumvented your process?

Geez wake the fuck up.

Oh and psst...Uh being registered as a republican and not voting does in fact send a message. They'll notice.. They won't give a shit no more than they gave a shit about exposing themselves on national tv as the frauds they were.. but it WILL send a message.

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No truth to any of that.

There is no similarity between Bob Barr and Gary Johnson.

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Sure there is

You Libertarians picked them both.

So can you explain how that happened? How did someone like Bob Barr get it when you guys hold so tightly to your principles?

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Go check the archives of the Daily Paul.

See how much I "supported Bob Barr" in 2008. I voted for Chuck Baldwin.

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That's great.. You had singular sense.

That still doesn't answer the question as to how a group that claims such Constitutional principles could have elected someone such as Barr as their pick.

If I were "you", I'd be questioning how that happened and if the process you have is trustworthy.

There's one of the major rubs for me in Gary.. I see all manor of red flags but you guys don't seemingly.

Time will most likely tell though.

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It was a backroom deal between Root and Barr.

That's what I've heard, anyway. Root pledged his own delegates to support Barr, if Barr would nominate him for Vice President. That gave Barr enough votes to beat the presumptive nominee, Mary Ruwart.

That's my understanding of the situation as I've heard it.

Mary was and is a fine libertarian, very principled.

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You do realize you got co-opted then.

So someone was able to gain power in your party to the tune of taking over and seating themselves essentially.. Two neocons took power from a 40 year old organization which nullified the Libertarians in 2008.

Next part.. I'm not calling you a liar here but how do I know that those pushing Gary so hard are not remnants of the neocons that backed Root and Barr.

You say you didn't back them but shitloads had to.. Where do you think they are.

These issues and those I see with gary are exactly why I can't take the chance on voting or joining the Libertarians.

Ooops I did check out Virgil of the Constitutional Party and he's a neocon too.

Starting to see a picture here? Every avenue has been sewn up by the neocons.

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Voting Johnson may help push

Voting Johnson may help push the party into a meaningful existence. Johnson can't and won't win even if every Paul supporter backed him. Voting anyone other than Romney is a vote for Obama. Voting Johnson has the added bonus of helping Doctor Paul's original party.

Not voting won't mean a thing either. Unless there is a huge drop in the typical voter turn out. A few million turn out in one direction or the other means nothing.

Above is based on the assumption our vote is counted. Rigged electronic machines should be the biggest concern. When they can flip votes our votes are meaningless. We don't have the power to speak through our votes. Not voting along with massive protest could get our voice heard.

We are simply at a point when Voting or Not voting appears to have the same effect. Machines turning in minus vote counts for candidates? Dead people voting? The voting system should be of huge concern.

Libertarians can't be trusted to pick a candidate.

I'm not going to further their party. I vote message ONLY.. not party.

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You support a Republican?

The Republican party, the party that Ron Paul was a member of, can not be trusted to pick a candidate. Anything that you may say about the Libertarian Party pales in comparison to the Republican party . . .

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That's the kind of disingenuous attitudes

I'm beginning to notice from a lot of so called Libertarians.

As I stated above.. I support a message. If that message was found in the democrats, republicans or Libertarians and I BELIEVED it was coming from a place of truth.. The party wouldn't matter.

But YES in this case I supported Dr.Paul which also happen to be a republican and for the moment.. I'll continue to support his plans.

I was of the "Nobody but Paul" group and I'm going to keep that pledge.

It's easy to do.

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Help me understand your

Help me understand your message... Your plan of action is to not vote?