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Ron Paul wants us to stay and take over the GOP

"Republicans are recognizing their days of controlling the national GOP are coming to an end." -- Ron Paul, in a letter to his supporters.

Please realize that this statement provides some directions from Ron Paul. We must effect this statement and make it the eventual outcome. To do that, we must continue to strip power from the statists in the GOP. We must bring their control of the national GOP to an end. How are we to do that if we vacate the GOP? So go ahead and vote your conscience in 2012 but stay in the GOP and wrest control from the statists.

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Right now I feel like the Jewish Community

being asked to take over the Nazi party.

we won 12 states

how are you not feeling good about our progress?



"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)


Why do we as Americans have to be loyal to ANY political party?? Screw the GOP.

timely bump.



The defeatism here is astounding! Someone here want to find me the George Washington quote where he says "screw it, there's too many corrupt Brits here, let's find another place to go!" I certainly never read it!


It is appalling to see that so many people are treating this as if this liberty movement is about capturing one elected office. There's more elected positions in our government than just a Presidency. Many ballots will have Presidential races, Congress, Senate, Governor, Lieutenant Governor, State Assemblymen, State Senators, Secretary of State for your state, County Supervisors, City Mayors, City Councils, flippin Mosquito chasers and heads of animal control are elected in many areas.

You're pissed because we didn't get the RNC nomination. Where the hell is the anger that we don't have Pauliticians running for the 30 other races we have on our ballots? I want to elect a Paulitician for my local judge so he can toss out the crap the gestapo cops allege against us. I want my mayor to be a Paulitician. As long as we have stupid people in this country picking people because they have an (R) or a (D) after their name, it makes sense for Pauliticians to have one of those letters after them.

George Washington lost the largest battle, the Battle of Long Island, but went on to defeat the British. We're Americans today. Fighting is in our blood, even after we get kicked down.



I would rather fight

to save my country, NOT some political party.

No one is asking you to "save" the GOP.

Ron Paul has said to anyone listening to him that the best way to save America and the Constitution is to take over the GOP. If you have a better idea lay it on us.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)



Thats before

They changed the rules.. That rule change shuts us out and it occurred after Dr Paul stated "we'll become the tent"..
Maybe a" mass" exodus lead by someone powerful from with-in that can include Both Republican and Democrats . The true conservatives and liberty minded representatives. You know a coup! to a viable all enclusive third party.
The Party of Paul!

Rules can be changed.

Get the people to act to change the rules to ones you can live with. More than simply the Ron Paul people were shocked by the grab for power. The entire grassroots of the GOP is threatened by these actions. They will support any action that can be taken to change the rules.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

ConstitutionHugger's picture

Keep your enemies close

Some of the people in the GOP are corrupt and will stay that way, but most are just stupid followers. If we mingle with them, we have a good chance of waking them up. This is much easier than forming our own easily ignorable third party. Dr. Paul has thought this thing through. We need to infiltrate, educate, and win seats. Patience a virtue. And Dr. Paul knows what he's talking about.

After 4 more years of hard work

... It's August 2016. The Liberty Wing of the GOP is significantly larger as the RNC begins. Ten Fat Cats from the 1% change a few more rules ... Strip entire State delegations ( again )

... and all our hard work is wasted. Again.

I reckon not.

I didn't take it that way.


Somewhat angry with Dr. Paul right now - should I not be?

I agree that it's probably worth staying in the party, but
I can't excuse Ron Paul's failure to speak out forthrightly
about the blatantly insulting, improper and probably illegal
conduct by the party establishment against not only the
Paul delegates who busted their asses to support him and
the Liberty cause but also the non-Paul delegates who were
acting in good conscience to help fight the disenfranchisement
of delegates and the rule changes that allowed the party
elite to keep Dr. Paul from being nominated.

Someone want to tell me why this doesn't constitute fairly
blatant disrespect and ingratitude? Why it doesn't amount
to tacit acceptance of the stunningly hypocritical disconnect
between the ideals expressed in the party preamble and its
actual conduct?

I mean, thank you notes are nice, but whatever happened to
speaking truth to power and such, especially when you're
handed the equivalent of an engraved invitation from the MSM
to do so?

Especially when, if the rule changes are allowed to stand, it will
create conditions where it will be far more difficult to impossible
for candidacies such as that of Reagan, Buchanan and Paul himself
to have any chance of success in the future?

(No, I'm not ignoring or excusing Rand, I've just come to expect
this sort of thing from him)

Rand "He got to speak for a whole hour about whatever he wanted to talk about."

Guess what, Rand? In America *anyone* is supposed to be able to do that.

Vote this down if you want - as long as you can tell me why and where I'm wrong..

All in due time

I agree that he should speak on it, but if for whatever reason 'now' is not the right time, then I can respect that.


"Ron Paul wants us to stay

"Ron Paul wants us to stay and take over the GOP"

Yes, but why? If it is so that we can be there to support Rand then I am not interested.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

jeffjeffjeff's picture

Well our only chance next

Well our only chance next election is to get to the point we have our candidate as the presumptive nominee otherwise due to the new rule changes they will be able to just remove our delegates. So if you think we can get somebody ready for 2016 that can make it there against all of the big corporate money then lets do it otherwise we are probably better off trying to go third party or independent.



Ron Paul wasn't God

I know we are all here because of him, but he is retiring, and we need to pick up on our own and go forward. Sticking around with the GOP after the convention we just went through makes no sense! They assume we'll stay, that's why they treated us that way! We can't encourage that behavior. Leave and give Gary Johnson a chance of getting second and make the Grand Old Party obsolete like it deserves to be.
If defeating Obama is super important to you, then I'm not sure why you'd want to replace him with a whiter and richer version of himself.

Supporting/voting for Johnson

and staying in/attempting to take over the Republican
Party are not inconsistent actions..

Can we use

Heavy equipment? Like backhoes and Bulldozers..

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

agreed and to help make the

agreed and to help make the old guard even more irrelevant I intend to vote against Romney.... No way would I ever vote for a cheating liar.

Time to form the Independence

Time to form the Independence Party and go after disgruntled Republicans and Democrats. Most Dems will not come over to the party of Bush, just as Reps won't go to the party of Obama.

This is one of the few things I disagree with Dr. Paul on. The GOP is ridden with cancer and hopelessly corrupt. Even if we could take it over, its backers would simply leave and form a new party for their Neo-Con backers, taking their money with them.

Worth considering. There's

Worth considering. There's truth in what you say.


I Totally Agree With You

Ron Paul said "become the tent" He did not say the tent has to have a GOP logo on it. 40% of Americans are registered as Independants and the number is growing. If we had a Party called the Independance Party, many would believe they already belonged to it! Disenfranchised R's and D's would switch Parties. I see this as a much better possibility then trying to steal the GOP away from the guys with all the money in the world at their fingertips and a printing press to make even more when that runs out. I see far too many Ron Paul supporters on here already willing to compromise due to their affiliations with Republicans. If you lie down with dogs , you wake up with fleas. The GOP may some day absorb us, but we will be the ones that change the most- not them. Look at all the former 1960's make love not war hippies that are GOP Party Hacks and chickenhawks now. Becoming a Republican is like catching a virus that robs your integrity.

I'm with ya!

Trying to save an ultra-corrupt institution like the GOP is like trying to "save" rotten fruit. I refuse to be a part of the Democrips or the Rebloodlicans. I agree with Jesse Ventura: No more GANGS in Washington!

Yea Really

Why is everyone so hell bent on saving a corrupt party. Should'nt we use the free market rule here and when a party goes Morally bankrupt you let it fail, liquidate it and then gather up what is still of value and start again. A lot of the principles that the GOP was supposed to honor could still be a part of the platform.
Why not take the power that this movement has a form a new party. I know that there is a monopoly on the requirements for new parties to be taken seriously. So maybe that where the real change needs to start. Along with also making it a part of our platform to do everything in our power to endorse and support anyone that is willing to take the challenge to bring back Journalism with integrity. After how Ron was treated by the MSM. I think it would be beautiful to see a scholarship in Journalism in Ron Paul's name created. Yea! that would be exciting..

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"