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Romney Can Never Win Without Paul's Supporters - Do we Just Give the Election To Obama?

We know most if not all Ron Paul supporters will never vote for Romney giving Obama the Election. Are we as the liberty movement giving the election to Obama without a fight?

And if Ron Paul doesn't want to be our ship to ride in the sea of garbage then do we just cast our vote into the waves of nothingness for someone who is not really continuing in the fight?

Since most people are unlikely to write in Ron Paul, it seems to me only logical to vote for Gary Johnson and remind the 40% of so-called independents many who understand that the two party system is completely corrupt that there is one other person on the ballot in all 50 states.

I mean after getting screwed, do you really want some more Obama now? Use your senses.

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Even more importantly

If you vote for Romney, then you're supporting the corruption that has been fighting against you and me and all of us from day one. Fugeddaboutit.

Not sayin' who I'm voting for, but

Romney may give us more time than Obummer!

Just a thought?

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The difference between Obama

The difference between Obama and Romney is the difference between choosing anthrax or cyanide as your poison. Which do you want? Dumb or Dumber. If the Ron Paul ship hadn't parked, we'd all be riding it. But's it's parked. GJ is the only other ship on the ballot in all 50 States and though he's not Ron Paul, he's not Obama or Romney. Some of his ideas are actually not that bad.

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Stalin can't defeat Hitler

Stalin can't defeat Hitler without your vote.

What do you do????

Do you vote for Stalin, so Hitler is defeated?

Do you vote for Hitler, so Stalin doesn't win?

Who cares?!?!? I'm most likely going to vote for Gary Johnson. I'm not totally thrilled about it, but at least he doesn't sound like Stalin or Hitler to me.

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I agree, that's the point of

I agree, that's the point of this post. Do we sit down and shut up. Or will we get a voice still? Ron is not running everyone.....

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Yep,,,,

I'd rather have someone I know is gonna screw me so I can be prepared, than someone that lies to me about it and not know it's coming!!!

Seems that even though 40%

Seems that even though 40% classify themselves as independents, and there is one other party on the ballot in all 50 states. Maybe just letting everyone know before election time that they don't have to vote for the 2 Wall street crooks is a good idea.

Gary Johnson 2012. It's simple math for any half-brained Ron Paul supporter who can do a little math.

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I say we vote for GJ, he

I say we vote for GJ, he won't win, we don't endorse him, we just use the Libertarian column as a place to register our numbers! And, if we could get it high enough, maybe in the future the GOP could be the third party out!

LOL

If Obama wins, the people who "gave him the election" are the folks who nominated someone who is no different from Obama on nearly every major piece of policy.

ROMNEY IS A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE. Discerning people seeing this are NOT the ones who "give the election" to anybody...

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So is there any other

So is there any other options? Maybe a 3rd party that's on the ballot in 50 States. Maybe we can still remind the 40% of Americans who are independent that they don't need to be slaves to the 2 party 1 horse system? Is there still time for us to at minimum make a statement after getting royally shafted?

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The Answer is: Yes, It is already done.

There is no way anyone can pull together the R party factions to win this presidential race. It's over. The R party has *never* won the presidential race unless the libertarian wing joins with the social conservatives to push their man over 50%. The R party leaders know this. That's why I think it was intentional to fracture the party and force nomination of another loser, just like they did with McCain, and Dole. It's as if they are owned by the same people running the Democratic Party...
Ask yourself this: Do we really want Romney 'in charge' with the SHTF?

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"The more laws we make, the more snares we lay to entrap ourselves."
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The R Party is done, the L

The R Party is done, the L party is pretty much sealed the deal. So do we just lie down now and do nothing. 40% of Americans claim they are independent. There is one party independent of these 2 on the ballot in all 50 States. Let's remind those 40% about this for a little while.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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I'm not voting. So as George

I'm not voting. So as George Carlin says, you can't blame me for the outcome.

As Obama and bunch of other

As Obama and bunch of other sheeple said "Yes, we can" blame you for lieing down and doing nothing. There is one answer, one person who is on the ballot in all 50 states other than Obama and Romney. To campaign and vote for Johnson is a statement whether you like him or not. It's a statement that these people are out to destroy your liberty.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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more irrationality in the form of concern posed as a question

more 'ends justifies the means' irrational logic spoken like a central planner trying to figure out the next strategy that 'we' should embark on.

I think it's irrational to

I think it's irrational to vote for Obama or Romney. Why would we do that? Do we get to work getting people to write in Ron Paul who's not working himself right now? Or is there someone else on the ballot in all 50 States who if we voted for and started supporting would really get the establishment and GOP upset. And also wouldn't just be a lie down, we aren't doing nothing until 2016.

The only irrational ones, are those who are giving up on any strategy.

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WE DONT GIVE

We do not give to anyone.
Elections are not given, they are earned.
ROmney has not earned the conservative vote, that is unless you support the biggest most corrupt entitlement in DC .

I agree, so what do we unify

I agree, so what do we unify behind now since Ron has decided that he is taking his boat out of the sea of garbage? Is there anyone else on the ballot in all 50 States besides Obama and Romney? I think the decision should be easy, I'm just trying to get us to think... Once we do that, we can get to work again.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Ill vote Johnson, however I

Ill vote Johnson, however I was elected to the GOP, and will be throwing the mother@#$%ers out and taking over their party as soon as im able.

I like Johnson, not crazy about him... but he won't win. The only purpose in this vote it to show the GOP scum what happens when you @#$% with the Paul people.

We lose more if GOP wins

If this watered down pathetic excuse for the "conservative" party wins the presidential election, then the small government movement has no base inside in the system.

If the GOP loses then those in the party desiring power will realize they have to include the Liberty movement. Fortunately for us they typically have no principles or conviction, so convincing them to vote for a Liberty candidate if that is what it takes to win an election should not be a problem.

So then the logical and

So then the logical and really only choice I'm guessing is Gary Johnson since he is the only candidate on the ballot in all 50 States. Or we can all be disorderly and let Obama win without any fight.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Johnson 2012

Johnson 2012

Vote Johnson

Vote Johnson

Bump

What is the answer right now? Is it better to not vote at all? They aren't going to give up, do we vote for Gary Johnson? They'll just rig the machines.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Yes, Gary Johnson

He is the next closest thing to Ron Paul on the ballot in all 50 states. Not voting is the worst of all alternatives. That leaves the choice and the voice to others. A vote is not a bet on who will be the winner, but a statement of what you believe in. To have maximum impact on the R party leadership, you *have* to vote, just not for Romney. But none of this should affect your down-ballot choices, as there are many good liberty candidates running under the R label this year. We NEED a Republican Congress to stalemate Obama for four more years!

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"The more laws we make, the more snares we lay to entrap ourselves."
- Sir Francis Bacon, Nov. 1, 1601

Without unity behind one

Without unity behind one candidate, and we all basically toss our ballot away, that would give the election to Obama. I don't see any other choice but Johnson. Even if you don't like him.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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