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Should We Accept A Need To Form A New Party?

If the other parties are deemed irreparable within a reasonable period of time, I personally have a vision of say a "Constitution Party" or "CP" in honor of Ron Paul, that only applies rules that are in accordance with the constitution, anything less would be unacceptable within the party. I've thought of other names like "Liberty Party" could also be appropriate, but for the purposes of this article I'll just say for now, "Constitution Party". The following is again, just a vision still open to consensus manipulation and other ideas. Anyway, here it goes...

The "CP" could use Republican Party rules as a basis minus anything that is deemed unconstitutional, but with a different twist that we are mostly unfamiliar with now, but which I believe is actually in accordance with being a true republic while also containing the necessary internal controls to better allow for the grassroots vote to be counted and heard...

The Problem Right Now With The Republican Party Evidently Is Mostly With The Leadership And Their Ability To Shut Down The Grassroots Vote. http://www.dailypaul.com/252158/rnc-sham-2012 http://www.dailypaul.com/252144/txgop-evidence-shows-rnc-rig...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4OXxDDshUQ The 2008 and 2012 election cycle brought allot of Ron Paul supporters to the party, and some states now are controlled by Ron Paul supporters such as Maine, Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota and other states that put Ron Paul into the nomination.

I would say the main problem up to this point is that we haven't had enough grassroots participate in the local party politics to drown out the control by these fascists in other states. Until people start participating in politics more starting on the local level, the power will continue to be held with people that are only in this for their own personal benefit and to make money, not representing the will of the people. Remember, government sponsored capitalism is fascism.

Fascism otherwise known as corporatism, by the way, has plagued our country since its inception. We even have Fascism symbolism in our congressional chambers... Can anyone point out what it is and where??? Hint: The (___) Is On The Wall With The Flag Inbetween... On Each Side Of The Flag. "The original symbol of fascism, in Italy under Benito Mussolini, was The fasces. This is an ancient Roman symbol of power carried by lictors in front of magistrates; a bundle of sticks featuring an axe, indicating the power over life and death." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_symbolism and http://artandhistory.house.gov/art_artifacts/virtual_tours/h... https://www.google.com/search?q=fasces+in+the+house+of+repre...

Right now I believe the crux of the problem has to do with the fact that the straw vote process in each of the states is rigged. Basically, in the primaries, the party members control the mass vote counts. So depending on who is in the positions to count the votes in the party largely dictates who wins the nominations within the party. The Romney "crime syndicate" has been able to travel from state to state and rig the voting machines and ballot counts one by one because they've had people within the local parties willing to support these efforts most likely receiving kickbacks in the process.

And the delegates who get to the national convention are chosen in most states by the campaigns based upon the rigged straw vote results. This is why Romney ended up having most of the delegates and why the only states who still have a fair and open delegate selection process have been targeted and essentially shut out of this convention by the current national RNC leadership.

Ron Paul should have had most of the delegates attending this convention, but Romney has basically stolen his votes and replaced grassroots with fascists who are bought and paid for by the federal reserve bankster cabal which controls Obamney. Same situation takes place within the democratic party.

So what's the solution?

I keep putting the idea out there about how elections of not just federal officials, but all local and state government positions were elected in the beginning of our nation solely via delegate conferences. These were the days when the election of delegates were still open and fair, meaning under the condition that the voters in each precinct agree to a caucus day where they elect their precinct delegates at a designated precinct meeting time for everyone to show up, by paper ballot of course counted at the precinct meeting with precinct voters present as witness. Or depending on the precinct, they can agree to accept a first come, first serve type of delegate sign up process whereas those who wish to be delegates in their precinct just turn in a signed form with the party and pay a nominal fee that covers delegate conference expenses. This type of open delegate selection process takes control away from campaigns and party leadership and allows the grassroots vote from the precinct elected delegates to be heard.

Whereas anyone agreeing to be part of say the "Constitution Party" also agrees that their vote counts towards whoever the delegates nominate at their delegate conferences. So essentially, a condition of being a member of the "CP" is that you sign a sort of proxy type of agreement that delegates your general election vote to be cast by the delegates elected from your precinct. This is in the spirit of how a true constitutional republic should work which we have somehow lost our way over the years.

Can the delegates still be bribed to vote a certain way? Sure, but at least it won't be as easy because with rigged straw votes dictating campaign selection of delegates, the process in place now in most states facilitates much more of a corrupt delegate recruitment type of atmosphere. At least with the grassroots delegate selection process at the precinct level advocated for each state in the party, the party campaigns will be forced to work with whomever their precincts decide to elect as delegates.

Delegating votes at the precinct level would eliminate "Constitutionalists" from having to go to the voting booth regularly, a pain in the A$$ for many, especially those who lead busy lives with their families not having time to keep up on political news that matters if one takes the responsibility to cast a vote.

Why delegate my vote to my elected precinct delegates?

Well, first of all, technically this is done anyway right now. The only problem is rules in the current parties on how delegates are selected and the binding of these delegates to vote according to the rigged straw vote counts. The fact of the matter is, many have seen, is that no matter what we do, there is always going to be some kind of manipulation when it comes to mass vote counting without internal controls which is the system we have in place now. Basically there is no way the average citizen voter can tell if their vote was actually recorded correctly. Having delegates attend conferences and casting votes on behalf of their precincts can be monitored and cross checked much easier. When mass voting occurs, Someone, or a group of people who have personal interests can always find a way to pay off those who are counting votes. This type of election fraud needs to be eliminated. The only way this can really be done is if we delegate our votes to those who we deem more responsible to keep track of whose counting since as the number of votes needing to be counted gets smaller when we delegate our votes, incidence of vote count manipulation is recognized more easily and efficiently.

Second, Due to the first amendment, there are tons of disinfo campaigns circulating around about political issues. It would be up to the "CP" delegate to sift through everything in order to make an informed decision about which candidates for government officials are best for the job...

So how would the delegation of votes work? Well, For example, lets say a town has a population of 30,000 registered in the "Constitution Party" and at that towns delegate convention, the "CP" nominated a candidate for mayor. Well, according to the "CP" rules, the "CP" nomination counts for 30,000 votes in the general election.

Hmmm, interesting why does this matter so much? Well, if we look at how many people are voting lately, we're lucky if we get say fifty thousand votes for some of even the largest cities in our country due to apathy and lack of participation. So having this kind of party rule could really mean some pull in the local and statewide elections as far as vote counts cast.

When you actually think about it, it seems like Ron Paul supporter Constitutionalists could very well make up the majority of the voter population considering the numbers we've seen at the RP Revolution rallies that have been held over the past several months. By having our own "Constitution Party" being able to submit our vote counts based on convention nominations and numbers of registered voters for our party in the general elections, we could much better monitor our level of support by not being subject to general elections voting machine rigging.

I know many will say, wait, you're saying delegate my vote to the delegates I voted for in my precinct at my once every four years caucus held during the presidential election? Yes, that's what I'm saying - The average voter who registers "CP" only goes to a caucus every four years and delegates their general election votes to whoever the elected precinct delegates decide to nominate in their "CP" city, county, district, state, and national delegate conventions.

So how does would the conventions work? Well, the "CP" could hold a series of conventions to nominate for different government offices throughout the year. For example, the city "CP" convention could nominate candidate for Mayor, and City Council and other city government official positions. The County "CP" delegate convention could nominate candidate for say county sheriff, and other elected county government positions. The district "CP" delegate convention could nominate for say US House of Reps and other district government official positions. The state "CP" delegate convention could nominate for example, Governor, and US Senate government official positions. And of course the National "CP" convention could nominate the President and Vice President of the US.

Wow, that's allot of conventions that "CP" delegates would need to attend, right? Yes, but here we assume that these people who take the responsibility to become delegates for the "CP" understand that they are also taking a huge responsibility to keep up on the politics and be sure they are willing to spend the time to understand everything about the different candidates in the races. "CP" delegates would ensure their precincts that they will know what both MSM and alternative media is saying about candidates for government offices etc...

Basically, "CP" general population of voters would understand that they don't always, with the demands of daily life etc... have time to research all of the issues. Registered "CP" voters are willing to entrust and delegate their votes to their precinct delegates who ensure that they will take the time to research the candidates and therefore are able to cast a more educated vote on the issues...

Could the "CP" party nominate a candidate who is officially registered with another party? Sure, why not. The "CP" would be nothing less than a grassroots affiliation of voters organized together for a common cause, to help get constitutionally motivated candidates elected to office regardless of their party. The "CP" aim would be to aid the public in making the best voting decision which in this day can be very difficult given the financially motivated and propagandized political atmosphere.

Of course these same types of rules or processes could eventually be implemented in the existing say republican party in time and with enough support and grassroots participation. But with all of the frustration so far, and the fact that we seem to be running out of time to get things fixed, who knows? Right now I'm just bouncing off ideas here.

Finally, The "CP" wouldn't need to care about swaying the MSM because depending on the membership of the "CP" depends on how many votes are cast in each election as per the nominations for each convention.

Just think, freedom from the influence of the mass media and dictatorial type coercion of campaigns and party leadership, what a concept!!!

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Now is the time!

The time to have the greatest impact on the party is to come in after the "party" (convention and election) after most "partiers" have gone home. There certainly will be fewer people in the way of the clean-up crew. But the time to start is not just before the next convention or high profile election like a presidential election year. Starting immediately to become active in the party and working for 3 years within it to prepare for 2016 party "reorganization" (local and state conventions). Use the knowledge gained this year to expand on the gains made and obtain what we did not have this year and clearly didn't have in 2008. NUMBERS of active participants. My favorite saying is "The world is run by those that show up!" But don't show up late and expect to have the necessary numbers to prevail!

Interesting, but...

A lot to consider.

But we don't need an entirely new party.

We can have a party within the republican party. That is, to join our second tier of the republican party you must be a republican party member.



The status quo in the GOP is way too embedded. Either that or wait another 20 years or so.

I have never been in or seen an organization that changes its rules so much on the fly. It demonstrates to me they have no idea what the heck they are doing.




-LibertyG ... 2 Corinthians 2:16-17 "To some we are a scent of death leading to death, but to others, a scent of life leading to life. And who is competent for this? For we are not like the many who make a trade(for profit) but as those with sincerity...