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Doug Wead: Romney Threatened Ron Paul With PR A-Bomb

This is an important interview by We Are Change with Doug Wead, that fills in a lot of gaps. Romney threat is discussed at 15:20 mark.

http://ronpaulflix.com/20...

http://youtu.be/wbrUPtwIKuk

See also: Doug Wead: Romney's Revenge




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"This was good", Doug ends with a smile

It is obvious from his closing remark, that Doug Weed appreciated the line up of great questions that these two WAC reporters fielded him.

It was the right time to give his retrospective views and his unique, behind-the-scenes historical insights. It seems he was happy to have set the record as he would have us know it.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

ChristianAnarchist's picture

Why do you assume it was the newsletters?

This threat to "destroy" the name of Dr Paul may have nothing to do with the newsletters. I don't have ANY personal knowledge of things in the past of the good doctor, but I know that I've got things in MY past I wouldn't want brought up in a campaign (that's why I would never consider running). NONE of us know what skeletons may be in Dr. Paul's closet and I can tell you that for me it would not matter what they are, Ron Paul has proved his fidelity to liberty for 30 years and for that I will always honor and respect the man. My personal opinion is that Ron may have made some bad decisions in the past that none of us are aware of but of course the "big bad government" machine with unlimited resources may have some dirt that they are keeping locked up for leverage.

At any rate, I'm hoping there's nothing being held as leverage against Rand except for the threat of destroying his dad. In 2016 all this will be ancient history and the Ron Paul legacy can move on in the form of his son who has been schooled in liberty his whole life...

anything they have

or think they have, or that they can convince the public is true, you know repeat enough times, they will surely use against rand, simply by association. politics is an ugly, cheaters, liars, power hungry world, just ask ron.

I guess it was just a gut feeling

coupled with he fact that this was the only thing they were able to attack him on.

Unless of course it could have been something against a family member.

Rob-me

Rob-Me..Now that's funny.
Thanks holbrook, I needed that (LOL).
I think we (the Liberty minded) people of this country destroyed
Rob-me's presidential bid.
I knew there just wasn't something right about that boy.
Rob-me...would be laughing all the way to the bank right now,
Government would be growing even faster and bigger, and his cronies would be (creating new companies) to do BizzNess, You know, those NO BID kind of contracts. Just like Barry, Now I'm glad I didn't vote for either of those guys.
TSA would be rolling down main street in every Amerikan city.
Also, I am sure we'd be at war in Syria by now too.
Those Republicans are determined to get us in Syria, one way or another...Just like IRAQ, all over again.
Now it's "poison gas"...
Oh Please, give me a break.

"He (Romney) promised to destroy forever

the name Ron Paul"

So what does Rand do? He endorses Romney, and to this day says he still respects him.

'nuff said.

I don't know how it really went down...

...but there was a certain amount of politics being played those days. It is completely possible Ron told Rand to play the game, to continue the movement. If Romney was going to completely destroy Ron Paul's reputation, it would no doubt ruin Rand's bid and any shot the Paul political brand had to continue the revolution past 2012. You guys have to have a little faith that Ron and Carol Paul at least raised Rand to honor his family. Just saying, I think its as safe a bet as any to have faith in the Paul's.

you mean

when rand called his dad 10 minutes before he went on a show hostile to his dad to endorse romney?

look, any father will forgive his son, but that doesn't mean others have to.

also remember at the RNC when a reporter asked rand about the awful treatment of ron paul supporters and he denied knowing anything about it.

what will you do in 2016 if rand takes the veep slot with jeb bush?

rand has done some good in the senate, and maybe that's where he should stay.

I would not vote for Jeb Bush

Not exactly sure why you ask that. I dont know that he called him minutes before, I don't know how you know that.

I will tell you, unless Rand turns 180, nobody on a national stage w an inkling of "electability" touches Rand on liberty.

good on you

not voting for bush. i don't consider sanctions that kill women and children liberty. when rand changes his view on foreign policy i'll get interested. that heritage speech he gave was pretty scary. pandering? maybe, but full of red flags regardless, in my opinion.

You don't know what really

You don't know what really happened. I recommend moving on.

Glad I did not vote for Romney

This gets to the core of why I think political solutions are not viable. A sleezeball like Romney CAN destroy a good man's reputation because he has the support of the media. To all those who think Ron Paul could not have been destroyed, apparently you forgot about "the letter" scandal, yo forget that most Americans are primed to HATE - give them a tiny excuse and they will froth at the mouth.
Here is where it gets dicey, though. Rand endorsed him. Are you telling me Rand did not know of this threat? Did Rand get threatened too? How could Rand endorse him after that?

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Are you kidding me?

To even think for a moment that Dr. Paul would back away from the campaign due to scurrilous allegations of racism by Romney fails to take into account the race of the Democratic rival. If he wasn't concerned about Obama bringing it up, as we could no doubt count on, why would he be worried about Romney doing it? Oh yeah...do you think for a New York minute Leno would have had a proven "racist" on his show?

If not us than who?

Chess

1988 is right. It has nothing to do with the right or wrong of it, or the fact that they are lies.

If someone falsely accuses you of something, or anything at all, you have two choices. You can ignore it, or try to defend against it, or prove they are lying.
We saw how many times the media beat the racist new letters. Over and over again.

Ron's problem wasn't that he either did, or did not write them. Rons problem was that his name was on the Newsletters.
The other problem was way back when it happened, he did not disavow them, he said the words were taken out of context. So you see, that in a sense was a flip flop.

I am sure that the threat Romney made was that they would dig up the old interviews and plaster them all over the place.

I guess what am trying to say is that once you area accused you are automatically put in the defensive position. The minute you refuse to defend yourself, no matter how many times you have explained it, you are considered guilty.

Remember when he walked out on that reporter?

It is exhausting, and can be never ending.

have you ever been defamed by lies?

I have experienced it, and it's soul-shattering--

and almost impossible to fight; it leaves a permanent scar--

and people like Romney and his fellow thugs know how to do it--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Ron Paul's reputation is indestructible

for those of us who have integrity and recognize the integrity of Ron Paul. This is the core of our movement, the magnetism of honor and nobility in us, towards the honor and nobility of Ron Paul. It's not a bond that Mitt Romney with his ugly, low, base tactics could ever break. And if Mittens was going to win anyway, they should have gone for broke and stood up to the jerk.

It might have boomeranged back on Romney...the people don't want to see Ron Paul dragged through the mud. Even your average knuckle-head astroturf Tea Partier isn't stupid enough to believe "A bomb" lies against our hero Ron Paul.

Unreconstructed's picture

Loathing Romney Even More Now

Up until now, I had no intention of voting for Romney/Ryan, both lifelong statists who even when pretending to advocate less government are actually just advocating "better government" (oxymoron) or a slower rate of government growth.

Hearing that Romney, the plastic man who is so phony to the core but tries so hard to appear affable, threatened to use his ill-gotten fortune to smear the reputation of someone as righteous as Ron Paul actually makes me loathe Romney even more. I did not think that was possible. It just got personal.

"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors, but today we kneel only to truth." - Kahlil Gibran

One thing I do know

I don't know when, but I do know that the Good Lord will deal with this despot Rob-me and when He does, it won't be pretty!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

I can't get that

10 fat men sitting in a room out of my mind. What an apt picture. How irrelevant they are to the real world.

Doug Wead

Doug Wead, like Ron Paul is one of those few guys that puts me in a good mood everytime I hear him speak, even when he's talking about the most depressing $h!t. What a well spoken & likable guy..

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

indeed.

in case you haven't had a chance, please check out the following videos, to get a bit more background on Doug.

I always state this whenever I can: despite his former ties to the BushCrimeFamily & Co, I genuinely believe his catharsis was, and is, REAL:

http://www.dailypaul.com/211122/doug-wead-dont-want-my-nephe...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

emalvini's picture

If Protecting Ron Paul's Character Or Past Was Such An Important

issue to Jesse Benton, then why didn't Jesse Benton advise Dr. Paul about this before he entered the political contest in 2012 in the first place.

Didn't they know that in 2007' it was an issue (CNN: Wolf Blitzer) and it would also be an issue in 2012...(CNN: Gloria Borger)

That doesn't make any sense..

That what was an issue?

The newsletters are an old issue. He didn't write them. He didn't read them until well after the fact. And this all occurred over twenty years ago. And it's already been covered dozens of times.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

emalvini's picture

That' Right! Someone Else Wrote Them...INDEED!

What's to defend there..

Yes, he'd need to defend himself, as he has. I just don't

think that, being old news, that alone could be enough fodder for the serious character assassination that Wead alluded to. Or maybe that's why Wead wasn't actually so concerned. It wasn't clear if you were talking about that or something else.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Who wrote Paul's newsletters?

Now that the Paul campaign decided to make this more about Paul than about Paulicies (sorry), I'd like to know more about those newsletters because they are the only reason I can think of why this man wouldn't be a saint, and I'd like to know if a saint is walking among us.

So, please tell me specifically and demonstrably, who wrote those newsletters?

I'm going by what Ron Paul has said.

There was a newsletter he apparently started. His name was in the title, but he wasn't the only writer. This wasn't what he did for a living; he was a doctor. This thing ran for years. There was a staff, and articles were written by various writers. And, over the time that it ran (many years), there were apparently one or two articles in which some racist things were said. When the media somehow came across this (it had occurred over twenty years ago - if only they'd done a tenth as thorough a job looking into President Obama's background), they accused him of being a racist. He was continually asked about this in interviews (not only in '08, but '12, ad nauseum). Repeatedly, Ron Paul said he had NOT written them. (His name wasn't on those articles; no one's was.) He said he was not AWARE of it at the time. And he said he DISAVOWED what had been said. The argument then switched to that he was responsible anyway, since his name was on the newsletter. And, so what? What could he do about it now? Other than what he already had? Explain that he hadn't been the writer, he hadn't known about it at the time, and that he didn't hold such views - then or ever.

There was never evidence to the contrary, and so in a court of law, for example, (where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty), if something was to be decided based on someone's word, what would come into play would be a man's credibility and character - based on his record. While the same can't be said for either Obama or Romney, Ron Paul isn't someone who has continually said one thing one time and something else at another, or who's said one thing and done another. Ron Paul has been consistent. As Newt Gingrich recently pointed out, his convictions run deep. In Congress, he is respected for his integrity. It's why he's a candidate whom people feel they can trust.

Furthermore, specifically concerning race, his actions have proven him to not be any racist, such as within his ob/gyn practice, or in his stated policy views (such as concern for the disproportionate number of blacks in prison for drug-related, non-violent crimes). He's a "disciple" (my word, not his) of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., as am I. He's quotes King elsewhere, but what I'm thinking of here is that Ron Paul doesn't judge people "by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." And he is not WITHOUT support from the black community - those who have taken the time to actually look into his record and his current platform. There are those who've posted you-tube videos standing up for him, and I've heard AT LEAST one individual say (and I agree), EVEN IF he actually did make some racist remark at some time in the past, they'd STILL vote for him, because (aside from the fact he obviously doesn't hold such views now), they agree with what he says about the economy and need for sound monetary policy; because they want these wars and other interventionist military involvements to end; because they share his beliefs about individual liberties and the Constitution; and because it is HIS policies that would most HELP the black community, including but not limited to views about drug laws and disproportionate number of blacks in prison.

I've never heard anything from Ron Paul to indicate he considers himself some saint, nor that he wished to be viewed that way, although some might have that opinion of him (as apparently you but for this continually dredged-up accusation concerning an event that occurred decades ago). He's expressed amazement at his appeal that has drawn such enormous crowds unlike other candidates and generated such energy and enthusiasm unlike for other candidates; he doesn't take credit for it, personally, but attributes it to that the ideals he represents are "an idea whose time has come."

I have no "specific and demonstrable proof" as to who DID write the racist remarks at issue, again, two or by now maybe three decades ago. The onus isn't up to Dr. Paul nor his supporters (of which you are obviously not one) to supply such proof. And what proof would even exist, short of the actual writer (if he's still alive) owning up to it. The onus would be on someone to prove that Ron Paul was the writer. And I'd ask you, do YOU have that "specific and demonstrable proof?" Except I couldn't care less, as already explained above.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

There is proof of

newsletters that contain his name at the top, his name in the signature line and first person references to his home in Lake Jackson that have some highly questionable references in them.

If Paul's campaign is going to make this movement about Paul and not the liberty movement as they've indicated through their truce with Romney, then I think we are entitled to know more about Paul, like does he really hold those views? If he didn't write those letters then who did? He made contradictory statements about who wrote the letters in the late 90s, even taking credit for them in some instances and saying there's nothing in them offensive.

They are trying to lionize Paul, and I think he's a great man, but if this campaign is going to be about him, I'd like to know who wrote those letters.

As I said, I don't care about newsletters from decades ago.

I don't need to know any more about Ron Paul than I already do. If you do need to know more than what it is currently out there - what Ron Paul has said, what his colleagues in Congress have said (not to mention his Congressional record), and what his biased detractors have said looking into things since '08 (the mainstream media and other presidential candidates), feel free to do further research for yourself. You keep saying the campaign has made this movement about Ron Paul and not the liberty movement. I have no clue what you're talking about. I don't see a difference. (That a man should be so closely identified with an ideology is not the case with our inconstant president or Romney, for whom their ideology is unclear.) Ron Paul reflects what the liberty movement is about: sound monetary policy, fiscal responsibility, ending the wars, and a renewed appreciation for the Constitution and individual liberties. Our DP friend pmchanjr, well not likely your friend but mine, expressed it well: http://i.imgur.com/nSeHz.jpg

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I'm glad you don't care....

because Jesse and Ron sure do. That's why they didn't go after Romney.