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RNC just committed a massive crime? Federal Law in regards to "Election Fraud"... Read the code here:

42 USC § 1971 - Voting rights

"Intimidation, threats, or coercion. 
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate."

Caucus or Convention. 
A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party.” - 11 CFR 100.2 - Election (2 U.S.C. 431(1))."

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Let me just say....

There are not enough courtrooms, not enough lawyers and judges (and jails)...on the planet...to handle the caseload.

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Update #1: One Daily Paul member has a great idea about producing a documentary chronicling this debacle: http://www.dailypaul.com/252455/idea-lets-fund-a-film-expose...

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~Chris

Norfolk, VA

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RNC's Election Fraud?

What was originally posted was the basis for the Lawyers for Ron Paul lawsuit at the 9th Circuit Court in California, which, to date, has not gotten anywhere, the last I heard. Judge Carter said he had no jurisdiction. We are/were awaiting a later decision based upon attorney Richard Gilbert's amended brief filing. Maybe if a lawyer could pursue a different federal court venue, then maybe it could fly?

Bill Topel

sharkhearted's picture

The code still stands....and that is the law of the land

And as much as I HATE laws....this is a good one.

Whoever wrote the federal code on election fraud was on the money.

TJ would be proud.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Judge Carter

Of the Richard C. Gilbert delegate case made 2 points clear in his allowing the RNCs 1st motion to dismiss.

1. The intent of this rule was to protect voting minorities in Texas who were being beaten, lost jobs, ect. Every use of the law in court he could find had some racial part in it so, he didn't see how it applied to delegates of a particular supporter.

2. The RNC is a private club and to pass judgement on them for breaking their own rules or preventing kicking people out of their party would infringe on their 1st amendment rights.

And it doesn't mean

THAT they will defend the attacks, including breaking the fingers and dislocating the hip of a newly elected, elderly, disabled Ron Paul supporter as Chairman so the Vice Chair, a Romney supporter, could and would carry out Roger Villere's plan to "anoint" Romney rather than hold an honest convention in La. and the SORE LOSER Villere ordered the attack!

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To point 2:

Just because the RNC is a "private club"...in no way, shape or form...mean that it is outside the RULE OF LAW!

For instance, one can be the owner of a "private" bank...but just because it is private, does not mean that one can break the law.

That whole "private club" thing is a big fat red herring.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Textualists like Justice Scalia reject point #1.

According to textualists like Scalia, the plain language of the statute is what controls, and there is no such thing as legislative intent.

Point 2 might be valid if there was true competition from other parties other than Dems and Repubs. Having granted a duopoly for national offices through the discriminatory ballot access laws, the courts then become obligated to enforce federal law in nominees for federal office...or this would be so in a fair society.

Sharkhearted

Chris,

Please edit your post to include this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/252455/idea-lets-fund-a-film-expose...

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Would the ACLU take this on?

I'm no fan of them - I pretty much despise them, but wouldn't this fall under their jurisdiction?

I believe Rochard Gilbert has already done that

That's what Gilbert was doing... courts would say Gilbert already had a suit and it was tossed.

I meant regarding the rule changes, etc...

By a "highly" competent lawyer with experience in pursuing cases on a national level.

I think that would be up to Ron Paul

Afer all he does have the attorneys who have been on this.. so unless one of them steps up, I can't imagine who would.

Unfortunately, the JUST-US System Statute applies to this Law

as it does to all others.

A++ for effort though Chris.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

The only way

to deal with this type of 'no consequences' blatant activity, is to get it into the law courts, and hence under public scrutiny, regardless of the final outcome. The alternative is to allow this activity to become the standard adopted in the future.
Yes it takes money, but then not all liberty minded folk are financially challenged. Liberty promotes private enterprise, limits monopolies, and enhances true capitalism.
Also if the grassroots support can fund a campaign, then why not a class action against illegal, tyrannical actions perpertrated by public servants and others that abuse their responsibilities in order to coerce and manipulate the system.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Sadly the point is

Nothing is going to come of this, just like how no bankers have been jailed over the economic collapse, or how they just let Eric Holder off the hook, or how Cheney killed his buddy on a hunting trip oops, or Obama declaring war without congressional approval, or Romney and Bain Capital, or etc..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And now they just changed the GOP rules so there is no hope for a grassroots movement to work ever again.

Look my friends I still believe that this country has a chance, but I will admit I gave all I had to be a part of the rEVOLution and I still will, but I no longer believe that it is possible through elections and or any other rigged avenue The Powers That Be say I am limited to.

In a weird way I am relieved, I finally see it for what it truly is, and I will never again cast my stone under any political banner or participate in the farce of your vote counts ideology.

I will govern myself and treat others with the respect and love that I feel in my heart. And when its time to rebuild from the ashes of what was the country of my birth, I will share with all who will listen the teachings of my brother Ron Paul and how he was just reminding us what we have always known. Love, Truth, Honor, and Integrity = Peace, Liberty, Smiles and Freedom.

Thank you all for listening, I will see you when we get there.

Those who refuse to participate in politics end up being governed by their inferiors.

Obama should get his legal team on this and knock the RNC out

of organizational existence. We would all be better off without it.

Yep, I said 'Obama'. Bring on the down votes.

sharkhearted's picture

You are right..

But the problem is...Obama...does not have any more honest record, than his compatriot nazis across the aisle to the right.

ALL HAVE SINNED.

My oh my what to do when you have this level of corruption and fraud.

Uncharted territory....for sure.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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Obama isn't too concerned

about his record, or he wouldn't be announcing his intent to not enforce existing laws (immigration) and order assinations.

The only solution is to:

1) make documentaries with precise and convincing facts arguments - and not all dark and gloomy, but more like Ben Swann style journalism.

2) Educate your friends and family on the incidents that took place and explain what happened in easy to understand terms:
a. The delegates that were taken from: Oregon, Maine and other states.
b. The teleprompter incident (I can't wait for Sat Night Live on this one :))
c. The new RNC rules and what it means for the future of voting.

Stick to facts. And be ready for curve ball questions and have factual answers to respond.

Get enlightened completely and teach the world there is a better way to do politics.

I have to ask myself

Are you guys genuinely this naive?

Who owns the Banks
Who owns the Media

And who are the majority of Supreme Court judges......

Oh well maybe your garden path will extend a little further in 2016.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Cyril's picture

Maybe we are. And maybe

Maybe we are. And maybe you're right in we should not keep our hopes too high.

But then, if you're so skeptical about following this sort of path, per the OP's post ...

... here's another way I thought of we could pursue our truth effort (among many others, in parallel, of course) and where bought judges, and banks, and media, can't do much cheating us with :

http://www.dailypaul.com/251692/its-information-war-times-an...

Or if they can, I'd like to hear how (?)

Feel free to join.

For LIBERTY. Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Just a question

What became of Lawyers for Ron Paul's lawsuit? We will never stop trying what else have we, but a comment I heard regarding former NJ Governor (anyone from there who holds office...humm) Corzine who stole 1.4 billion dollars from American farmers and just walked away with it!?.. anyone who can do that and get away wiht it.. well they ARE the government. It's the simply the private corporate/banker take over of the planet. Raise hell.

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Hell yes!

Time to raise hell indeed.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

no one is going

to do anything about it ....

there have been many many unlawful deeds done by the most corrupt party in history. No one has done anything .... they have the money and they will destroy any who try to stand in their way .... they don't follow rules.

vote third party.

lindalsalisbury's picture

Obama,

will have plenty to say about this!!!He may even put Holder on this, at least until the election. Campaign fodder!!!

Cyril's picture

Hey Chris, I agree with pursuing this.

Hey Chris,

I agree with pursuing this. That is also relevant, I suppose :

http://www.dailypaul.com/252410/if-the-ron-paul-delegates-ca...

For LIBERTY.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Cyril's picture

(@Chris : nevermind. I just

(@Chris : nevermind. I just saw you had noticed already.)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

.......

Rule #1 - The government has investigated itself and has found no wrong doing.

Rule #2 - Repeat Rule #1 ...over and over.

Quoting laws to the

Quoting laws to the lawless... Nice try. You will find no oathkeepers in Washington that will venture or dare to uphold these laws against their own... They must be amazed at how much they have gotten away with so far and still no serious uprising in the streets. They have destroyed education and information exchange and replaced it with entertainment and distraction. Until we teach civics and the constitution in schools again and free the media from its monopolies we are doomed to repeat the tyranny of past civilizations.
Take back your schools. Take back your children and the future. This you can do!

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

sharkhearted's picture

Yeah but quoting the laws is the first crude step...

...in the right direction.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I agree...

What a disgrace...I wonder if anyone will ever pay for what has happened...I doubt it...Disgusting...I hated Bush, I thought Obama would have been better...I was asleep...I'm not now...Man I am just crushed...Are you able to bring charges? How could this be tackled? I wouldn't know where to start..

Bad food, worse weather, please rEVOLution the states so I can bring my family back home!
Rosa Koire for for President!