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Quantify the Movement: The Case for Gary Johnson

Quantify the Movement: The Case for Gary Johnson
Written by a Massachusetts Delegate

The Liberty Movement has a tremendous amount of momentum, and with the convention behind us we must set our sights on November and the next four years. We have made great strides in winning offices at the grass-roots level and must continue to do so if we are to affect change, but there is one thing we have not yet been able to accomplish, and that is to show the world exactly how big our movement can be in a general election. We all know there are droves of Ron Paul and Liberty-minded supporters who did not cast votes in primaries either because they are Democrats, Independents, or only interested in participating in a general election. By all casting votes for Gary Johnson we can in the course of just one day show the world how strong we truly are. I call this "Quantifying the Movement" and venture to list several rationales for a Johnson vote below.

The Case for the Republican Party: Often times, out of love, children must be disciplined to help shape them into better people. So is the case with political parties. It is no secret the Republican Party has gone out of their way, even breaking their own rules, to kick the sand in the face of the Liberty Movement. It is true we must transform the party from within in order to change this, but we must also show in no uncertain terms that the Republican Party needs to want and accept this change if it is to maintain and grow the support of such a critical wing of the party. The two agendas are mutually beneficial, not mutually exclusive.

The Case for Rand Paul: If Mitt Romney loses the election "because of Gary Johnson," how powerful would it be for Rand Paul to be able to approach the Republican Party with a quantifiable number of how many voters he could potentially bring back to the party if he were to become the next nominee? Some would argue that Liberty supporters voting against the party would hurt Rand Paul's chances – in truth it only makes them stronger.

The Case of Conscience: For too long have people been subscribing to the notion they must vote for the lesser of two evils. We are at a point in American history where 40% of the population does not identify as either a Democrat or a Republican. This presents an incredible opportunity to show the two parties that the system must evolve in order to survive.

The Case for the Message: A large voter turnout for Gary Johnson and Libertarian beliefs will force the general public to at the very lease ask why, and asking this important question is the first step towards discovering what the Liberty Message actually is.

In the following sections, I would like to offer several alternatives to the Johnson vote and why they are not as supportive of the Liberty Movement.

The No-Vote: Not voting is the weakest form of protest vote an individual can ever perform, simply because it is a protest that will never be heard. Staying home and not voting is quite possibly the worst thing a supporter of the Liberty Movement can do on Election Day.

The Write-In: The unfortunate truth of the matter is that write-ins simply are not counted. The candidate has to make themselves eligible as a write-in in most states and therefore a write-in is the practical equivalent of a no-vote. Gary Johnson will be on the ballot in all 50 states, guaranteeing that those votes for the Liberty Movement have the highest likelihood of being counted.

The Other Third Parties: The other third parties will most likely not be on the ballot in all 50 states. Therefore, not all of the Liberty Movement will be able to cast a unified vote at the national level.

The Romney Vote: The proper way to affect change within the Republican Party is to get and stay organized at the local and grass-roots level. Members of the Liberty Movement must get themselves elected into positions from school boards and town committees all the way up to the Senate. However, thinking change will come by voting for a man who has repeatedly shunned the Liberty Movement is unrealistic and effectively gives permission to the Republican Party to continue business as usual.

The Obama Vote: Many Liberty supporters were once Obama supporters, but it is clear that he has failed in his promise to end wars and promote Liberty. In fact, he has done the exact opposite by creating more wars and passing legislation that erodes personal liberties. The Liberty Movement cannot endorse this and still call itself a Liberty Movement.

Finally, those who take issue with Gary Johnson’s position on abortion must keep in mind that although Ron Paul and Gary Johnson’s personal opinions on abortion differ, their actual policy opinions are not all that different. Both believe that legislation should happen at the state level and not in the courts.

Whatever you do in November, do it at the polls and feel good about the vote you place in the box. We are in a unique position as a movement to parlay great momentum into a very loud and clear message to the Republican Party and the Nation as a whole that the Liberty Movement is alive, well, and indeed the future. Let's show the world what the Liberty Movement means numerically in a General Election so that we may grow in strength and continue to right the path of These United States.

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You will never change

the Republican Party from within. It is OK to try but it is not going to happen any time soon. We need a third party period. Do not waste your vote by writing in Ron Paul, it will only be thrown out in the end.
We need to vote Gary Johnson now and I am a Ron Paul supporter and was an Alternate Delegate to the RNC. We truly need to send the Republican Party a message. The Republican Party is busy right now trying to remove Gary Johnson's name from several states. We do not need to let that happen. Put Obama back in for another four. Our financial mess will come to a complete head in no more than two years. We can drop it right into his lap. The American people will get a slap upside their heads and we might be able to put a third party candidate in the WH in 2016. But we need to get busy right now and a good start is to vote Gary Johnson in November. I would rather take Obama on than to put up with Romney for eight years. That would be a living nightmare for me.

Gary Johnson is my man by default--don't write in anyone.

I don't hold any great hopes for a Gary Johnson showing in November, that being said, I'm voting straight Republican in Michigan except for Pete Hoekstra and Mitt Romney. For those two offices I'm voting Libertarian. I won't vote for Mitt Romney or that Establishment hack, Pete Hoekstra--PERIOD.

The Republican convention was a replay of Hitler's takeover of German politics in the 1930s. Seig Heil to der Mitt-sherschmidt, und der Fuhrer Romney. Seig Heil Romney!

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Do not write in Ron Paul

The Liberty movement needs to be unified, and we cannot be united around a write-in strategy. In reality, not every state has the option to write-in candidates, so we cannot be unified around something that all of our people cannot do.

On the other hand, we all can vote for Gary Johnson. Now, I do not agree with everything that Gary Johnson stands for, but that is not the point. Even if we all vote for him, he will not win. But, if we vote united we have the opportunity to have the greatest Third Party showing in recent history. If we can just tip the Gary Johnson's vote over 10% (or more) then the Republican party will have to pay attention to the Liberty Movement with inside of the Republican Party.

A unified vote for Gary Johnson is a vote to change the Republican Party!

LOOK!! At This Map

I've posted this a couple times so far. Go to this link for your States Write in Laws!
Ron Paul is not going to file for eligible write in for any State. It will not be counted!! We can make a bigger statement by voting for a Liberty Candidate who will be on the Ballot in all 50 States!! Ron Paul won't even write in Ron Paul's own name!! Come on people lets keep the Movement going Forward!! In my opinion Romney has already lost, let's get behind Johnson!! For Liberty!!

If Gary Johnson is a true patriot...

he will step aside for Ron Paul

Ron Paul can not Run For President On Any Ticket-

In 8 States. They have a Sore Loser Law that will not allow someone who ran for a position switch parties and run again for the same position in a different party. It would be pointless for Gary to step aside for Ron Paul, but Gary could nominate Ron Paul as his VP running mate.. That could be real good!

Gary Johnson

I also contributed heavily and supported Ron Paul but Ron Paul has all but passed the torch to Gary Johnson by saying we should look at Gary Johnson. I can write in Ron Paul's name in my State but I think if we all unite for Liberty we can and will win with Gary Johnson. I will be voting for him and not wasting a write in vote that will not count.

Dr. Paul's comments about Gary Johnson are intentionally vague.

I'm dying to hear what he says on Jay Leno's Tonight Show. Has anybody else heard it was Tuesday night?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

In the unlikely event GJ wins

In the unlikely event GJ wins I could see GJ appointing Ron Paul to be Secretary of the Treasury. I don't understand how anyone in the liberty movement could think a vote for any other would be better.

James Grant is Ron's pick for Treasury

There is a lot Dr. Paul could do as Sec. of State. It's the highest ranking appointed position and is in charge of foreign policy and immigration.


"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

I am at a point where I have

I am at a point where I have to reconsider my personal strategy. Until this last week, I intended to write in Dr. Paul no matter what. Unfortunately, I don't believe the 2 party system, nor the MSM will even bother to tally the write-in vote. If a tree falls in the forest, and no one was there to hear it... I may be forced to do what was previously unthinkable and vote for GJ just to ensure my vote will register as a blip on any kind of radar at all. Sad state of affairs altogether.

The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. - Heinlein

I have even less faith...

that they will tally the electronic votes correctly

If elections are permitted in November

And Gary Johnson is on the Oklahoma ballot, but Ron Paul is not, then I will vote GJ.
Better would be if GJ would select Ron Paul as vice-president!
Best would be if Ron Paul is on the ballot so I could vote for him!

If only Romney and Obama are on the ballot then I will only be voting for the local issues and not for the "leader"!

We need to vote against Romney in the ONLY way that counts

The GOP really believes Romney can win. If they take the senate, a Mitt win will be an unMittigated disaster as he will push forward hard with the Bush-Obama neoconservative agenda unopposed.

Obama will have to cooperate with the GOP; and his second term will have much in common with Clinton's 2nd term. He will either betray his socialist base or become a do-nothing failure. Vote for gridlock - vote for Obama; it's the only way to stop Romney - equally as evil, but far more dangerous to liberty.

Also: An Obama win means there's a chance for Rand to become the 2016 nominee. If we don't defeat Romney by voting for Obama, then we can probably look forward to a Mitt versus Hillary race instead.

Our votes can count in a way that makes an actual difference; don't waste them on a protest that will be ignored anyway. To defeat the neoconservatives' worldwide reign of terror is too important; and it will require more than mere abstention or protest voting if we want to tie them up in political gridlock and have another chance in 2016 - the race is closer than you think.

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Gridlock

You have a point, of course.

I agree that nothing energizes a Republican Congress like a Democrat in the White House and if I believed that I were obliged to choose only between Rama and Obomney I'd have to say I prefered Marat to Mitt, but I don't believe I could ever bring myself to vote for him. I'm obviously still hoping to vote for Paul but am resigned at least to voting for Johnson.

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Then you're leaving the fate

Then you're leaving the fate of the r(love)ution to dumb luck.

If Mitt wins, then it's all over.

It seems that libertarians are too squeamish to defend their values; and they simply lack the courage to win. There's nothing principled about that; it's analogous to allowing murder to go unchecked on the grounds that allowing slaps on the wrist are unjust too; and that you can't summon the will to choose the lesser of two evils.

I happened to be in a state

I happened to be in a state that you can write in a vote, so I'll be voting Ron Paul.

If your in a state that doesn't allow write ins, I recommend Garry. :D


So you are just doing it for yourself to make yourself feel good? Where is the Unity? If 10 stays may count and may report a write-in for Ron Paul but 40 states definitely will not then where is the unity? Gary Johnson will be on the ballot in all 50 states. There can be unity in a vote for Gary Johnson.

Anonymous Libertarians

Hmmm.... this is tough. I

Hmmm.... this is tough. I don't want to vote for someone that I don't fully understand what he represent. I'll have to do some more research.

At this point, I'm just looking to send a message to the establishment. As long as we vote for Garry or Ron Paul I would feel comfortable. I'm not looking for a win, I'm looking for a message to be sent.

I'll look into Garry some more though. Darn, this would be so much easier if Ron Paul just ran independent.

This may help with your research


You can see how closely you match up with the candidates and the parties, but I think they took Ron Paul off after the convention. I just found out about this site; it would have been a useful tool a year ago.

For me, in Maryland (which will go for Obama), I'm supporting the Libertarian party. Right now, we only have two choices here, R or D but the Libertarian party should be available again next week. They have to meet minimum numbers of votes or registered members to be recognized.

Great quiz! Thanks for posting the link.

I'm recommending it to all my children of voting age. As Dr. Paul has been taken off, I came in at 96% agreement with Gary Johnson, then Virgil Goode at 81%; everybody else was lower.

Magna est veritas, et prevalebit. Truth is most powerful, and will ultimately prevail.

"Write in Ron" - 2008 State Requirements

Fellow Countrymen and R3volutionaries, PLEASE verify the requirements for your state and post comment at http://dumpdumbo.blog.com

Here's a blog from 2008:

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purge the LP and kick out any big money that tries to do

central coordination, and go full grassroots financing. that means removing lawsuit happy kochs from power and make platform more susceptible to influence from the grassroots, without a couple rich boomers in the background protesting--that would be the first step, if there's any hope, at all.


The GOP think they can push us out, HA ha!!! Think again!!! PLAN B!!! TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!!! WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!!! THIS R3VOLUTION AIN'T OVER!!! LET'S DO THIS ASAP!!!

RP will not

run third party. I will now vote GH in order to sen the Republican Party a message.

Better Yet: "Write in Ron" But First IX XI Exodus

Ron Paul being cheated out of the "Republican" nomination is a HUGE blessing! Now we can mount a MASSIVE grass roots effort to Write In Ron on November 6th, and the Establishment's ELECTION Fraud apparatus won't be able to stop us, because his name won't be printed on any ballots! They won't go through the voting machines. The precinct polls will HAVE to hand count the ballots if we MAKE them. A smart phone equipped army of r3volutionaries will not only smash the Establishment's election fraud apparatus and its media lies, WE CAN ACTUALLY ELECT RON PAUL PRESIDENT!

But FIRST it's time for the "Stomp heard round the world" when all the "new blood" that WE - the rEVOLution - poured into the the "Republican" party the last 5 years, LEAVE the NeoCONned RINOs with a one day Re-registration bomb - Operation Exodus IX XI. On Tuesday 9-11-12, let's all go in and change our registration to "Independent" or whatever (even Democrat to confuse both wings of the one Establishment party). It's important that we remain registered voters so we CAN "Write In Ron." Please visit http://dumpdumbo.blog.com

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In Oklahoma, and probably

many other states. If ANYTHING other than the mark for the given candidates is on the ballot then the ballot is put in the trash can and NOT counted. So, are you telling me to waste my selections on local politicians and issues?

Ron Paul will announce in Jay Leno on Sept. 4

That he will be running as the Presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party


Gary Johnson will step aside (as he has said before) to be his running mate. This is all speculation but it would be awesome if it happens.

I think together, they will get a big chunk of the votes from both Republicans and Democrats (and maybe even Independents) that will be the difference in the election results. This will make the two major political parties realize that they can no longer ignore and alienate the growing number of libertarian voters.

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For what it's worth, here's my (temporary) assessment

For what it's worth, here's my (temporary) assessment on Gary Johnson, contained in another thread on the topic:


(Johnson supporter vs. my skepticism; we managed to stay civilized)

See also :


'Hope this helps, & Sincerely,

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I got very upset

When people would promote Gary Johnson during Ron Paul's race, but now that Ron Paul is official out of the running, we need to give an honest look at the best ways to promote the ideas of Ron Paul which is what this was all about in the first place.

I've come to grips with the idea that Gary Johnson will not win, but it does seem the best way to (a) Show the Republican Party what their actions cost them, (b) continue building a base of liberty minded people.

Perhaps one day the Republican Party will collapse like the Whigs.

This post persuaded me to vote for Gary Johnson. I'd love for him to get at least 20%, that when people see the results, they very clearly don't add up to 100% and the public an ask, what happened to the other ??%.