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Would it be a good idea to move to Asia or to stay in the soon to be 3rd world U.S.

I am debating whether I should apply to a teaching English job overseas since I keep reading from the top economists that there would be more opportunity over there and higher standard of living. I;m working now, but only getting paid $8.50 an hour at 27 and still living with my parents and can't afford to move out because of bills that have to be paid. So is looking abroad an answer to a possible better life and opportunity?

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Foreign Legion?

Heard of a couple people that joined up but did not know them personally.

A professor mentioned it may be an option for some.

I think it would best if you first learned a second and third language first before throwing yourself at the mercy of foreigners imo and tuned up you physical health.

I know, once I got lost in the mountains of Europe one night, I was loaded :) ...

Made it through the night by keeping awake and was found by some good samaritans the next day when daylight came. I walked all night to keep from falling asleep, plus the booze helped a bit...it was winter lol


I'd say give it a try, the experience should be well worth it...

I've been in Japan for a long time and have not gotten rich,
but in a lot of respects the quality of life is good - I'm in a
medium sized city in Central Honshu, live OK, get treated
well and have what I consider to be meaningful work that
doesn't entail pissing in a jar or punching a time clock.

For a lot of things (like rent) where I'm at is cheaper than
the US West Coast. Food/utilities/gasoline are higher.
Cities, especially Tokyo are expensive - countryside and
small regional cities very cheap.

You should be able to pick up some useful skills and save
some money if you come here. Taiwan might might be a
better choice in some ways. If you're into having big nature
and elbow room (and don't mind the cold) Hokkaido would
be a good bet.

In terms of being out of the direct line of fire when the unko hits
the sempuuki, I think South America - Brazil/Argentina/Chile/Uruguay
sounds a lot better than Asia, though.

Hope that helps.

You're young

travel and see the world. Forget everything else. Live.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

To make decent money teaching English in Asia

Go to Taiwan, South Korea or Japan.

If you don't like cold weather, Korea is out (but the women are gorgeous).

If you like a lot of variety in food, entertainment and sight-seeing, or you're claustrophobic, Taiwan is out (but a good place to work, live and save money).

I haven't been to Japan, so I can't comment on it much. From what I hear, it's fun but expensive.

You won't get paid much in places like Thailand, China or Vietnam.


and do it. I know someone who has been teaching English in China for 5 years or so, and really likes it. You will not get rich doing this, but it's an adventure like no other, it's broadening, and all around good experience. Get out and go!!

I don't think it would be

I don't think it would be good to move. Asia will slow along with the US and Europe. I'm staying here.

I have a few very well off

I have a few very well off friends... They have both purchased property and set up bank accounts in Thailand. Appear to firmly believe these countries will feel the collapse the least. Same friends buying AIG stock during the 2008 crash!

Not sure there is truly

Not sure there is truly anywhere you will be able to hide. I'd rather stay and fight for the principles upon which my country was founded. This Great Experiment in Freedom is about to be extinguished, possibly forever. Isn't that worth sticking around to protect?

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

What city in Japan would you

What city in Japan would you be moving to?

I'm trying to go to Tokyo, or preferably somewhere warmer. I went a few years ago, and I'm saving up as much USD as I can before I go this winter. Sucks the exchange rate is so horrible compared to just a few years ago.

My friend lives in Kagoshima,

My friend lives in Kagoshima, Japan which is in the southern part. He wants me to come over there. He really loves it. I just see myself as just keep doing what I am doing now and be miserable, or possibly have a better life there.

I think you should


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So if not Japan, then where?

So if not Japan, then where? I am just working minimum wage for the past year at a dead end food industry job (even though I have a B.A. degree) living with my parents. I have a connection in Japan and possible teaching opportunity with paid housing there. All the nay sayers suggest you all for me to stay put and do the same thing?

Just some suggestions

Japan's standard of living is high. You may able to make money, but you will end up spending money on living expenses. Of course, if you go to the countryside the expense will not be as much.

Singapore won't be a bad place to consider. No minimum wage there, but they pay well. They speak English there. However if you want to teach English, Korea, China, or Taiwan may be the better place to go for. It is really not that bad as what people say. As long as you don't mind other people's business, most of the people will leave you alone. Sometime you may even feel a bit cold, but once you open up to them, they are nice people.

You are young. It is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Go for it. Sometime, I think about moving back to Asia because of the situation here, but I have business here I can't just leave. Best of luck to you!!!

I personally don't think there is anywhere to run.

The powers that be are not just interested in controlling the U.S. but the whole world. And when society collapses it will affect every corner of the earth. So the end I don't think it matters where you live. I personally think it is better to stay with the devil you know. But if you feel you can make a better living in the mean time then go for it. Live while you have the chance because sorrow awaits us all.

I think it is more of a

I think it is more of a conspiracy theory on that. Fact is U.S. is going down, Asia is going up.

I think I am going to join my

I think I am going to join my friend in Japan. Things are looking grim here in the U.S. and Asia is supposed to be the best place to be.

Japan doesn't count

They have the same stupid economics and banking problems we have here, plus they have a shrinking population issue compounded by an anti-immigration attitude that will prohibit any growth rate.

Japan is a potted plant.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Somalia has the most freedom in the world right now.

Send me a postcard. I'm going to stick around here and see if there is something I can do to help restore understanding and adherence to the Constitution and the principles it represents.

Not really. Somalia is ran by

Not really. Somalia is ran by war lords who control everything, similar to the people who run our government.

I am from the third wolrd!

I lieved in Erope before mooving to the USA. Last time I went home, I got stoped by police, many times. They tryed to get bribe from me.
If you think that here is bad, wait until you move their. The third wolrd is dominated by the UN. No gun rights. People are alwais waiting for some government solution. Good government for them is the one that have control on things and can do the most for them. USA is the only place that liberty has a chance. If you want to emigrate, go to Texas (mabe). I live in Alaska, and besides all the empity spaces here, our state is very socialist. The lefties are taking over the local government here in Fairbanks. They already got Achorage.

I lived in Europe too, and I

I lived in Europe too, and I liked it a lot better. It was much easier to live and less stressful like here. Germany was great, and Switzerland was beautiful. Those people live real nice actually.

Yes, Europe is nice...

But for how long? I believe Government are evil and government is too big in Europe.

Germany and Switzerland

are not third world countries last I checked.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.


..is boring as all heck and expensive as all Hell. There are cameras all over the country connected to a police highrise in Zurich that dispatches squad cars to block the road you are on. I was with friends when we were roadblocked for not wearing seatbelts. I had plates of risotto with some truffle shavings for three with two bottles of twenty dollar wine and paid $500 USD altogether. The cab fare after was $50. A grumpy and stuck up country made entirely of rocks.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

He must of lived in Eastern

He must of lived in Eastern Europe. That's Third World.

A third option:

Learn Spanish, move to Chile.


"Chile continues to boom along economically, growing at an annual rate of 5.4%. The national unemployment rate remains relatively low at 6.5%, and four regions boast unemployment under 4%: Antofagasta, Atacama (Copiapó), Los Lagos (Puerto Montt) and Magallanes (Punta Arenas). Santiago's unemployment rate is 6.5%. There may be trouble in the northern hemisphere, especially in those countries reaping the fruits of interventionism and insane monetary policy, but Chile is moving along just fine. People have jobs in Chile and their standard of living is rising rapidly. But to keep up with all the growth, Chile needs to encourage more immigration in order to counter the effects of low natural population increase."


Any one with half a brain is getting out of the US.

Follow your heart.

There is still opportunity in China. Lots of people like to bash China out of pure jealousy. more than half of what you read about china is not true. there are lots of teaching jobs all over China. You can branch out into something else you like from there.

Vietnam is good, has really excellent food, is much cleaner recently.
People are nice, most of them speak some English.
Vietnam economy is growing. They dont resent amerikans.
A lot of western companies are investing in vietnam.
Most business people in Vietnam are sincere.
Vietnam was part of China for 1000 years, hence it's name.

I am not sure about the difficulty of learning Vietnamese since I learned Mandarin Chinese and Cantonese first. Vietnamese is similar and different from both.

Thailand is nice place to visit. They speak some English.

If you move to a central bank

If you move to a central bank controlled country you will get more of the same, just with an accent. You will be taxed and controlled to pay for the banker world domination.

If you move to a non central bank country, you will need to be either communist or muslim and your country will be constantly invaded and attacked by the central bank enforcement division. The USA Department.

Good luck.

I could be wrong but I don't

I could be wrong but I don't think there is a country in the world without a central bank

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I read somewhere on DP

that there are like five or six countries that don't have a central bank. But that won't last.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
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