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"Don't They Only Wish!"? Why I may vote Obama

Okay, so what do we do now?

I was at the Sun Dome and heard loud and clear RP's message to continue in our efforts to take back the party. I agree with his point as we now have so many liberty minded people involved on a local and state level it would be foolish to leave the party at this point as so many here on the DP are doing or have suggested.

This would only diminish our influence within one party, which we can not afford. And as we know, a third party would never see the light of day in this corrupt duopoly.

I believe that if we flood our local and district meetings we can overwhelm the statists and eventually overturn some of the rule changes we have seen in the past week. I do however think we have a MUCH better chance at doing this if Mittens is defeated in November.

Going up against an incumbent President with a Liberty candidate in '16, considering Mittens and the RNC's proclivity for cheating, will be virtually impossible.

This is why I'm contemplating voting for Obama as only a completely strategic move, but all the while becoming even more active in my local GOP.

I know some of you will say that "votes don't even count" or I'm "voting for the lesser of two evils" etc. But I'd like to know what those strategic thinkers out there are thinking.

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Our obsession with the

Our obsession with the presidential election needs to be reconsidered. Look, we're going to get a status quo executive branch in 2012. So our next shot at this with (insert name of unidentified candidate here) isn't for four years. Meanwhile we're going to have a number of federal and state elections between now and then where liberty candidates are running for office. We need to work to get them elected just like we worked for Rand Paul and Justin Amash. It's not as sexy as a presidential campaign, but it makes a huge difference, it is available, and it is attainable.

The presidency is probably the hardest office to win because it requires the most votes, most advertising, and biggest organization. The best thing about Ron's runs for the presidency has been the exposure of the message to the masses. The masses are coming around, but the inertia is huge. Unless we suffer some economic catastrophe, winning a majority nationally is going to take a long time. Not that we shouldn't try, but we need to be objective about the cost and the benefit of pursuing it, and understand what opportunities we might be foregoing instead.

“Wasting a vote is sometimes voting for somebody that you don't really believe in."
-Ron Paul



I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm just well-informed

Yes, its far easier to

Yes, its far easier to replace those in party power positions and even house or senate seats than it is to get the presidency.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I second that

not to mention it would be easier to win if we could build bridges to tea party/liberty caucus/grass roots canidates that had there own networks, who actually win in the next four years. This should be a lot easier now that the rnc has decided to burn bridges to such groups. I think we can work with the bitterness.



I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm just well-informed