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It's Still Possible - Call Ron Paul And Tell Him That You Would Support A Libertarian Run! Serious Post - Not Hype

So we all know Ron is making a special announcement on Jay Leno on September 4th. I know many of us are hoping it's that Ron is running Indy or third party. Some are hoping he will endorse Johnson.

I just got off the phone with someone very close to Ron and want to tell everyone that a third party run is possible. At this point that is not what the announcement is going to be. It's also not a Johnson or Romney endorsement, so says my well placed source. Again, take it worth a grain of salt, but I trust that this person is close enough to Ron to know.

Up until know I have believed that there was ZERO chance Ron would run third party. However, after my phone call I believe there is a glimmer of hope. It's too late for Ron to get on the ballot as an Indy, however Johnson has said in the past that he would step aside for Ron.

Now for the bad news..Ron does not think the grassroots would fully back him because of all of the Rand and Benton bashing that has taken place, but RON would LOVE to make a last major push for Liberty in the presidential debates.

WE HAVE TO TELL RON BEFORE SEPTEMBER 4th THAT WE WILL SUPPORT HIM AND FUND HIM AND BACK HIM. If he knows that, there is still a chance he could change his mind, and if Gary really will step aside for Ron, Ron may take one final shot as a Libertarian. There is no chance Johnson will be anywhere near 15% and therefore no chance Gary is going to be in any debates. However, if Ron is the LP nominee and Gary as VEEP (as much as I dislike Gary, I could accept that) Gary would be debating Biden.

It's a long shot, but apparently still simmering in the back of Ron's mind. We need to ask Gary to step aside and make sure Ron knows we will be with him all the way! When you to Gary's site it loads an automatic video that is all about RON PAUL. So Ron Paul might as well be the candidate.

To Quote Paul Ryan: LET'S GET IT DONE! Let's get to work guys and gals and make this happen. Make sure you tell your liberty friendly email lists and any other liberty boards you post on as well.

CALL GARY AND ASK HIM TO REITERATE TO RON HE WILL STEP ASIDE IF RON WANTS TO RUN LIBERTARIAN:

Gary Johnson Contact Info: (801) 303-7922

CALL RON AT BOTH OFFICES AND TELL HIM TO RUN AS THE LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE. MAKE SURE YOU SAY YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, IF IN FACT YOU ARE, AND TELL HIM WE WILL SUPPORT HIM, DONATE, WORK, AND DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO HELP. HE NEEDS TO BE IN THE DEBATES AND HE IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT WOULD HAVE A SHOT AT BEING INCLUDED.

Again, from what I have been told he may be able to be swayed, Let's sway him! Email and fax too if you have time!

Ron Paul Contact Info:
Washington DC: (202) 225-2831
Lake Jackson, Texas: (979) 285-0231
Victoria, Texas: (361) 576-1231

2012 Presidential Campaign Office: 1-703-563-6620

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UPDATE: Saturday, 09/01/2012 - 9pm PST

www.facebook.com/events/3...

If this is true, someone spoke with Dr. Paul today. Here is what that person has to say. This is taken directly from the facebook link above...."I spoke with Dr. Paul this afternoon about continuing the fight by running on a third party ticket. I want to share what he said to me and let you know what needs to be done to make this happen. It can happen, but it's going to take some work. If you are willing to support this effort, please share this event and call in:

Conference Dial-in Number: (530) 881-1000
Participant Access Code: 890562#.........."

This specific event is being discussed here on DP...
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I have no idea if this is real or not. It could be a scam to sign us all up for Amway or for Gary Johnson...However, if its true, things are getting very interesting. KEEP CALLING AND EMAILING.
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The main mail box at the Johnson campaign is full, but you can still leave a message by pressing 0. The number is 801 303-7922

Also, Ron's DC office VM is full, but the 2012 campaign number is still taking messages- 703-563-6620

Don't forget to email also. And pass the word along to everyone.
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See also: Call The Libertarian Party And Tell Them You Want Ron Paul!


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Energized Ron Paul - 3rd Party Can Win If We Wake Up - 09/10/08

http://youtu.be/_b3y7BxFPJ4

GBAmerica: This video was done in 2008. Now really think about this, 60% of Americans were NOT happy at all with either candidate (in 2008). Now? I would not doubt it that it is higher today. If we can get all four parties backing one! It's all about the message! Our liberties! (Green Party, Lib Party, Constitution Party, and you know some of the Republican Party will follow … Sarah Palin supporters … and Democrats that cannot stand Obama! We all know this!




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No, the things the campaign did and did not do is

what decreased the chances of winning - like stopping the campaign for example. That one usually does the trick.

Realistically, Gray should resign and Ron Paul become V.P.

This would be a good deal for everyone concerned. I'm not sure how feasible.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Ya got it backwards

and it's not a "good deal."

Ron Paul doesn't accept a slot below Gary Johnson.
Ron Paul is the President, not VP.

Sore loser laws do not apply to Presidential races, so

that isn't a concern, though I'm sure some money will have to be spent to bitch slap officials back to reality and make them comprehend their own state laws. This will be a drain on campaign coffers, and seriously hinder any attempt to run.

Next, there is the not so small problem that we'd need to find out in which states substitutions are not possible. Time is short. Most likely, Johnson couldn't be changed out for Paul at this late stage.

Third, in states where substitution is not possible, there would have to be a very public campaign educating people that a vote for "Johnson" was really a vote for "Paul" as if Johnson's Electors win that state, they will agree to instead cast their vote for Paul.

That will also complicate matters because while no one has ever been punished for being a faithless elector AFTER the fact, there hasn't been a case where electors announced BEFORE hand that voting for them would render their votes for someone other than who they got on the ballot for.

There would be legal challenges here as well, to remove those electors on grounds of fraud that they swore, usually under a notarized form or even under penalty of perjury, that they would cast their votes for Johnson. The end result is Johnson wouldn't be a choice either.

Then, there are those states, where it's already too late for anyone save Democrats and Republicans to get on the ballot because they made the laws and they rigged it that way. Paul would be SOL in those States.

Finally, even if he could pull off an Elector switcheroo successfully, this would result in two things:

#1 - He could not obtain a majority so the election would go to the House and more likely than not, unless LP candidates for Congress also got elected and seated on Jan 6, then it would be a GOP controlled House that chooses the President - dimes to dollars - they choose Romney anyway.

#2 - a massive push to get rid of or work around the Electoral College. This would either take the form of a Constitutional amendment to a direct popular vote, or an Interstate Compact along the lines of NPV, or a move by States to add prison sentences, maybe even the death penalty for faithless electors. (don't count it out - I don't put ANYTHING past the nutjobs in this country)

All in all, you are asking for something that has less than a snowball's chance on the surface of the sun, with no possible way to achieve victory. It would be symbolic at best, and would result in a worse system than we have now - with no means to fix it save open and violent revolution.

Please - no.

It is too late.

That sucks, but that is the way it is.

And I didn't even get into the impossibility of getting into the debates. If Romney lied, cheated and stole to get this far, you think the GOP is going to let Ron on stage with Him and Obama?

FANTASY LAND.

I'm sorry to disillusion you, but...

Ron Paul will not be running as the Libertarian Party candidate. He gave up before the race was over. We have all speculated as to what happened with Benton, why his son has no principles, etc., but the bottom line is he gave up inches before the finish line. He will not be running for President as third party, Libertarian, whatever.

(And I seriously hope I have to come back here and proclaim to the world that I was wrong.)

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

Seems to me

you gave up before the race even started.

Clueless 1

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No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

I love your tag line

Oh really

he gave up "before the race was over"?

Obvious you're just here to troll & cause trouble when you mention the Benton and Rand buzzwords.

Busted.

Clueless 2

Go back and read my posts over the last 5 years and see who just busted themselves.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

Absolutely

Ron, please consider, we need you one last time.

MODS, please put this on the front page.

front page

it's what we're here to accomplish, 1 last shot

What Message Do You Think We Can Arrive at Regarding Ron Paul

leaving the next day after not being nominated at the convention? The fact that he did not stay to see the tribute to him and also hear his son speak, speaks volumes I think. I was trying to predict if he would be at the convention or not for his tribute. I thought he might be there since he was a republican and to show respect for the nomination process. However, since he didn't, I think he lost a lot of respect for the RNC and Romney whom appeared to controlled the State conventions and Tampa convention along with his attorneys. I can't help but think it crushed Ron to know how hard the delegates worked to get him nominated, only to see them be treated and cheated the way they were including not being seated when they had been duly elected. This isn't the Republican party that he use to know. What are your thoughts? That is why I believe he is ready to run 3rd party and if Gary will still agree to step aside, I think Ron with our encouragement and support would gladly carry on the torch to the Whitehouse!

A.Hansen

Statesman Paul

would win by a randslide

BUMP FOR A BLOWBACK!

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Bumping from 2nd Page & Because DP Has Not Put on Front Page!

We need to make this go viral! Less than 100 votes supporting Dr Ron Paul's run for president as a Libertarian? We know there are thousands if not millions whom would support him but we need to let people know he has the opportunity to run 3rd party and from the sounds of this post may do it if he knows enough of us support him.

A.Hansen

Unfortunately he would be

Unfortunately he would be removed from the ballot in several large states because of soar looser laws, but maybe he should run as Gary Johnson's VP to get around that.

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Read way down... This was

Read way down... This was hashed out and appears to only apply to an Independent bid.... If he ran in the Libertarian party it changes everything to game on.

Hummm. Well, then I saw go

Hummm. Well, then I saw go for it!

PS. Why do I get voted down for adding a constructive question?

Tracy

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Down votes are not a personal attack towards you. It is to show

others that we don't agree. In this case, there was a comment earlier stating that the loser law would not apply if Ron ran on the Libertarian ticket. Up and down votes can get tricky. Thank you for your constructive question! ( :

A.Hansen

Let's take the GOP down. Make

Let's take the GOP down. Make them a page in history just as the Whig party.

Yes, Take Them Down!!!

Blowback!

A.Hansen

blowback in nj

Im in nj and have 50-200 who will join at a moments notice. Not even to win but to educate and destroy the gop once and for all

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Atlas is shrugging

blowback in Colorado

... nobody treats Dr. Paul's delegates that way and gets away with it.

exodus

Run On a Message of Anti-Fraud

I've been bummed all week getting very little done no thanks to all the dirty politics. Matter of fact I donated to help delegates get to Tampa and I want a lawsuit filed for fraud, and I want my donated money back, paid back by the RNC 3 fold for all this pain and distress those @#@%$%^@$ caused me this week.

Ramblin Randy

Good Points - All the More Reason for Us to Continue to Put Ron

in the Whitehouse! We all put in money towards this campaign for the purpose of winning, only to have Romney/RNC cheat us along the way and at the convention. We have to give this our last shot! Let's make the GOP/Romney uncomfortable from here till election day!!!

A.Hansen

There is another scenario

that you did not mention. Ron accepts VP libertarian ticket. Now I know all of you will start hollering and hooting but think about it. Wouldn't that be the ultimate FU to the republicans if GJ asked RP to be his VP and he accepted.

It's interesting thought for a lot of reasons. I don't think Ron wants the presidency. Sorry it's just my opinion. We don't know what happened with Benton and GOD forbid he decides to run Libertarian and brings that creep with him.

I can't think of anything else it might be. Some very serious shit went down in this campaign without a doubt. We don't know what RP knows and he would never turn on his family no matter what the reason.

Get with the program Peggy Sue

Our man Ron Paul does not "do" VP.
He only does President.

You're obviously just here to complain about Benton and how Ron Paul doesn't "want" the Presidency, blah blah blah. Division, division, some people do it too well.

Get out of our way, Peggy Sue, we've got work to do and the wet noodles like you will just get chewed up & spit out.

Will you still be pushing

Ron Paul into a Presidency at his funeral. Its you that is not with the program, or at least in very deep denial.

Don't tell me to get out of the way. I have been following this man before most of you even knew his name.

It was never really about Ron Paul. It was his message.

Ron Paul's campaign for President is over and your telling me to get with the program?

There are still way to many sheep looking for a leader in this liberty movement. The horse you are beating is not only dead, it has rigor.

Bump!

Front page top now!!! Ron don't give up now we're just getting started! We love you!