Why I intend to vote for Mitt Romney for president.
Submitted by Dixie-Paleocon on Fri, 08/31/2012 - 22:37This will get shot down by most here and to be perfectly honest, I understand. If you want to vote for Gary Johnson or Virgil Goode that is your business. But, I would like to voice the reasons why I will be voting for the Romney/Ryan ticket in November and will encourage everyone I meet who intends to vote, to do the same.
I had hoped that once Romney won the nomination that Ron Paul supporters would just let the presidential race go and concentrate their efforts on funding the campaigns of the dozens of Liberty candidates we have around this country this year on state ballots. Kurt Bills could sure use our help, but, because he and most other Ron Paul-endorsed candidates are supporting the Republican nominee, many Paul supporters now want nothing to do with them - which is why we have to keep talking about the sorry choices we have for president this November.
I will be voting for Mitt Romney because I believe Barrack Obama is THE worst president in U.S. history. He makes Keynes look like a Monetarist. Romney and his mushy, moderate supporters make me sick, but, it's either a mushy, moderate, status quo president, or an Alinsky radical. I will hold my nose any day of the week for a mushy moderate if it means buying a few more years time. Nixon was no fiscal Conservative nor classical liberal, but, if Hubert Humphrey had won in 1968, the United States today would be a mirror image of the crappy condition of the EU states, only worse (at least they don't have an empire to manage). Nixon managed to buy the Conservative movement time - time to build at the grassroots and eventually take the White House in 1980 and hold it for 8 years, not to mention dominating local politics.
We're not going to force the GOP to embrace us by giving the Kenyan fascist, wannabe socialist four more years. That will only cause them to hate us more and want us out of their party even more.
I'm 21 years old and a junior in college. Lord-willing, I have most of my whole life ahead of me in this country and I care too much for the U.S. and my future to do anything that could potentially give Barrack H. Obama, whose policies, agenda, and unconstitutional shenanegins make Lincoln look like Jefferson four more years to finish transforming America into his father's dreams.
I'm sorry if you disagree, but, it's Romney or Obama and I would take 20 years of the former before accepting one more year of the latter.
In Liberty, Dixie-Paleocon
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I disagree, I will not vote
I disagree, I will not vote for Mitt Romney. Fortunately, I heard Newt say that 90% of paulites will be voting for Romney.
One world, under government, with power and money for the elite
Newt doesn't have a clue
He also said "I am going to be the nominee." Pretty funny, but not half as funny as claiming 90% of RP's supporters will vote for Romney. Perhaps what he meant was that he had insider info. that the diebold machines have been rigged to favor Romney by 90%. Romney has proven again and again that he can't win without a rigged system.
There are some people who
There are some people who just saw the ads, saw the candidates, liked Ron, voted for Ron, without ever being libertarians. Not everyone who voted for Ron Paul is a Daily Pauler. These people will vote for Romney regardless.
Maybe
But I don't think there are many of those. I knew a few democrats who supported Ron in the primaries. Personally, I don't know a single party partisan republican who supported RP. In my area at least, those people just tow the party line and vote for whoever Fox News tells them to. In my experience, there's a huge difference between Ron Paul republicans and ordinary republicans.
There were a couple among the
There were a couple among the Glenn Beck crowd. Technically Glenn did tell his viewers to vote RP at one point, then changed his mind about a week later. I wouldn't it say mainstream Repubs voted RP, more mainstream Tea-Partiers.
Well, until we bridge that difference,
we will never take over the party.
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I'm just shocked you haven't
I'm just shocked you haven't learned anything... that you actually believe that there's a difference, even a small one, between Obama and Romney.
Let me make something clear, Obama's financial advisers are mostly GOLDMAN SACHS' alumni... so you think Bain Capital is different??? You think they have a better plan???
Wall Street runs all the monetary issues in Washington and there's no way they want to kill the Keynesian casino! The only folks calling for the gold standard are Wall Street outsiders or a slim few with a conscience--but that is a very slim few!!!
Romney is/was Obama before Obama was! Romney governed like Obama before Obama did!
Please, wake up!
I'm not a one issue voter.
If the gold standard was all I cared about, I wouldn't be voting for anyone for president this fall.
Really?
After witnessing the blatant tyranny at the convention, and what a tool of this Romney is, I am astounded that anyone thinks that Romney is "better".
They are both sock puppets, and the hands inside running the show are the right and left hands of the same evil forces intended to enslave us.
If my need to be RIGHT is greater then my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle
Romney's administration will be a lot kinder
than our current massa in the White House. If you can't get out of slavery right away, it's better to live under a humane slave owner until you can.
Do me a Favor...
Don't forge my shackles as you forge your own. How many have died in the past for Freedom? -- their own and hoping to ensure the freedom of future generation. It is and age old and the most human of battles. Do you so disrespect their sacrifice to go out with only a whimper?
Not me...no way!
I guess I'll I have to fight for your Liberty along with my own...Freedom's worth fighting for and don't you think we would be stronger fighting together for the cause of Freedom then to just to cower and accept the small whip over the bull whip?
What ever happened to "Give me Liberty or Give me Death"?
If my need to be RIGHT is greater then my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle
Well, Obama isn't going to give us death.
He's going to give us more Constitution-shredding, corruption, assassinations, humanitarian wars and Robin Hood wealth redistribution. Romney won't be nearly as bad.
Invest in vaseline...
Invest in vaseline...
If my need to be RIGHT is greater then my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle
Better, but not by that much
I agree with your last paragraph about the right and left hands of the same evil forces. Still, the "right" hand of that evil force is slightly better than the left hand, just because of the positions that the evil forces play off against each other. From our perspective, these positions aren't really that much different, but still they are somewhat different.
But yes, the will of those in the shadows will be enacted, no matter what.
Want a three-term Barack Obama administration?
Then get Mitt Romney elected. There's no difference between them, and Mitt is slick enough to get re-elected.
Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.
Romney doesn't support Obamacare and will repeal it
if Republicans manage to retake the Senate. He wants to roll the corporate tax down to 25%. He intends on cutting the income tax. He will sign Audit the Fed if it passes, Obama would veto it. That's four differences right there.
Rigggghttt
Sure he will.
Even if he did, that amounts to rearranging the chairs on the titanic. It is nothing but show dressing.
Romney lacks understanding. He is a big government leftist, redistributionist.
I want someone who understands the role of government; who understands the concepts of liberty; and who understands properity.
I want someone who will argue for the repeal of the entire income tax. I want someone who will repeal entire federal departments; Who will legalize free competititon in currency; who won't support TBTF redistributionists banker bailouts; who will end these vampiric life draining, propserity draining, wealth draining illegal foreign occupations; who will repeal the Patriot Act; who will repeal the NDAA indefinite detention provisions; who will end warrantless wiretapping or agents writing their own warrants; who will unequivocally repudiate the Hitleresque doctrine of preemptive warfare; who won't just tinker with Romneycare so he can put a Republcian stamp of approval upon it but will outright repeal Romneycare; and also phase out other socialist federal programs like Medicare and Socail Security.
I want someone who understands the concepts of liberty, not merely someone who might ad hoc pick the better positions on a few isolated issues.
Romney is the pathway to national destruction. The fact that Obama also is the pathway to national destruction does not make Romney any better.
As others point out, with a Republican in office there is no resistance to government expansion. Romney will be like Bush only more so, with Republicans cheering the growth of government, supporting the doubling of the Dept of Education, and No child Left Behind, and the largest expansion of Medicare since the new deal, and record breaking deficits, etc. When a Republican gets into office, the mass of Republican voters turn into leftists goverment expansionists, and if they get some tiny nominal reduction in the rate of income tax slavery, they claim victory for having doubled the size of government. It is absurd.
No thanks. Cnnot give any credence to such a system.
Willard Romney sucks as much as Obamney.
Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl
You do realize...
Willard CREATED THE FRAMEWORK for Obamacare, right?
I don't play, I commission the league.
Could you explain to me how exactly
that has anything to do with him repealing Obamacare? If the Republicans take back the Senate and pass a repeal of O'Care and Romney claims he actually supports Obamacare and refuses to sign it, he would be committing political suicide. He would go down as the biggest liar in U.S. history. He's make Bush Sr. look like Ron Paul. No, Romney isn't a dumb politician. He's been running on a platform to repeal Obamacare and everyone that votes for him this fall will be expecting him to repeal Obamacare if the Senate gives him a chance.
Romney's own words
"Repeal and REPLACE Obamacare"
Cut income and corporate gains tax? What's his record on that? Replace them with blindness-testing fees again? What does it matter if he cuts taxes anyway, when the Fed will print as much as he wants. And he was THE LAST candidate who said he would sign the audit bill...but don't worry, he won't flip flop like usual.
Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.
He only flip-flops when it's politically expedient.
He would have no political incentive to flip on those issues once he's in the White House. No matter how well the establishment backs you, you can't win your party's nomination when you run for reelection if you piss off 90% of your party's voters during your first term.
Those are some convincing arguments in Mitt's favor
but only to the sort of person who believes that Mitt is honest and can be trusted not to flip-flop later if it's politically convenient.
Otherwise, not so much.
"You decide." -- Judge Napolitano http://youtu.be/D5J84fWqEK0
Mitt's like the free market.
He'll do what it takes to stay in business. In Massachusetts, he did what was necessary to become a Republican governor in the bluest of blue states and as governor, he gave the Mass. consumers what they wanted. When he ran for president, he did what was necessary to win the nomination when the Republican Party was in the reddest of red hot moods. Mitt's a good business man. He does what it takes to stay in business because "the voters are always right".
So you know he's a liar
But you think you can predict his flip flops in terms of his what will be expedient for him in the future. IMO you're being very naive. After he and the neocons start some unnecessary wars he'll explain to you that he couldn't do everything he wanted because what's wrong with you don't you know we're AT WAR?!?! Ring any bells?
BTW his lack of principles and morals is also why he took the politically expedient option of treating Ron Paul the way he did a few days ago. Just sayin.
"You decide." -- Judge Napolitano http://youtu.be/D5J84fWqEK0
Not just slickness
We know how willing they are to re-write the rules and ignore the rules. If Mitt gets elected they'll rewrite the rules to make it virtually impossible for anyone even to get a campaign started for the 2016 primaries. They'll set filing deadlines earlier than ever, raise signature thresholds for getting onto ballots, etc., and the kicker is that the weaker Mitt's re-election chances look the more they'll abuse the rules (and cheat outright) in order to block primary challenges.
So if Mitt is elected in 2012 you either get eight years of Mitt, or four years of Mitt followed by four to eight years of whoever the Dems run against Mitt. Possibly Hillary.
On the other hand if we do to Mitt what Nader did to Gore, then (a) the RNC gets the message loud and clear that they can't shit on the revolution and expect us to respond with docile acquiescence, loyalty oaths and committee memberships, and (b) in 2016 some poor Dem candidate is saddled with Obama's record and Obama's economy. There's no better way to make 2016 wide open for a real liberty candidate, and I don't mean the kind who has compromised their principles to vote for the NDAA and endorse Romney.
"You decide." -- Judge Napolitano http://youtu.be/D5J84fWqEK0
Somewhat agree
I do agree with you that Romney is better than Obama, and that it is a delaying tactic. On the other hand, if Romney wins, there will be no new GOP nominee until 2020.
If there was a realistic chance that Romney could beat Obama in my state, I might hold my nose and do so. I was on the fence about it prior to the convention, but after the way that the RNC & Romney treated Ron Paul and his supporters, there is no way I could cast a vote for someone that thoroughly corrupt.
Our movement won't be big enough in 2016
to take the White House. If Rand runs, a third of Ron Paul supporters won't vote for him any way. An right year Romney presidency will buy us enough time to work our way up to where by 2020, we'll control the GOP and have an army of Liberty statesmen in Congress. Romney will do things that we support such as repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes and regulations, and cutting back on the federal workforce. We make up about 8% of the population right now, it will take at least eight years to grow to 20%, which is what we need to take over a major party.
Clearly...
Obama will beat Romney
-49% of Americans are now dependent on the government, most will vote for Obama
-95% of blacks will vote for Obama
-2/3rd's of hispanics will vote for Obama
-Any independent who hated the "Bush years" will vote for Obama. Romney wants to amp up the wars, strengthen the Patriot Act and NDAA.
Sorry to say we have been reduced to a choice of a corrupt communist/socialist left and an authoritarian 1933 Nazi right.
With Romney, the economy might get a slight bump, but it will be a trade off for less civil liberties, more war, more death and destruction.
There are 5 choices: Obama, Romney, Johnson, write in Ron Paul or stay home. Let your conscious be your guide.
The devil you know and the devil you don't know.
By your depressing analysis, Obama
would have beaten Ron Paul in the general election. People who are dependent in government for sure wouldn't want RP as president.