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All This Talk About Johnson is Starting to Push Me Away from Johnson

As I said in a comment and I'm wondering how many DP'ers agree. I don't know much about him but now I've got to say that, until Dr. Paul makes a decision about a third party run, all talk about GJ on a Ron Paul website is inappropriate. In fact it is starting to push me away from Johnson, when previously I had an open mind to voting for him if Paul was not a choice. Now I'm wondering what kind of people he has behind him, and if I want to be part of that.

There is such a thing as classy behavior. The GOP showed their true colors, people with no class who probably hold their fork like a hammer when they eat. It's called upbringing, and it shows who you are, and it has nothing to do with what income class you are in. Some of the classiest people I know are dirt poor and some of the most classless people I know are filthy rich. I hope DP'ers would never go to a Johnson fan site and try to talk about how they shouldn't be for Johnson, but for Ron Paul. Over and over.

We will keep trying to show Dr. Paul that he has our utmost enthusiasm and support for a third party run. You Johnson guys are turning me off from your candidate, which is a shame because he may be a good one. There will be plenty of third party choices to choose from.

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Ron Paul is NOT running third

Ron Paul is NOT running third party! Ron Paul has never said he would, and even now Doug Wead has said definitively - NO, it's not happening.

And if you don't want to support Gary Johnson, that's perfectly fine. But to base your support on the actions of his followers is silly... You should be basing your support on what GJ stands for.

Johnson's support for

Johnson's support for fictional "humanitarian wars" disqualifies him almost completely in my book. If he actually campaigned on ending the Fed instead of legalizing weed I might have to reluctantly give him a vote, but since he uses soft language on the Fed I don't have any reason to consider him.

If Paul isn't running, then

If Paul isn't running, then Johnson is the next best thing. I don't believe Ron will openly "endorse" any candidate for the sake of his son's career as a Republican but I could be wrong. The Republican party is clearly not friendly to Libertarian ideas and is surgically removing the Liberty movement. Romney operatives are trying to have Johnson removed from the ballots in multiple states to ensure Libertarians have no where to go but the Republican party.

Ron Paul has not yet stopped running!

What about that statement is so hard to grasp? Ron Paul has not yet stopped running for president. When he does I'm sure he'll announce it. Don't ya think?

And even better is the fact that he is also winning the hearts and minds of millions of followers. Both parties are terrified by his number of supporters and their effect on local liberty, freedom and independance. Whole states are waking up.

Ron Paul is a game changer. More people came to Tampa Jo hear him speak than attended the RNC Convention.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

If you listen to the interviews GJ has done

it rubs me the wrong way when he presumes that he can win because "Ron Paul isn't running now".

It's like Newt saying 90% of us will vote for Romney.

I've heard other pundits say that those of us that registered as republicans will stay in the party. All of these nimrods think that we are robots and act like the rest of the sheeple.

I will not vote for the lesser of 2 evils. I will not remain a republican just because I registered to vote for Ron Paul and I certainly will not just automatically vote for Gary Johnson because he is the consolation prize.

I hear that,

welcome to the club. It's so annoying, this is not the Daily Johnson.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

LOL Daily Johnson...

never mind.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Took me a second to get that,

you nerd. lol

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Took me a second to get that,

you nerd. lol

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Don't you enjoy your daily

Don't you enjoy your daily johnson? ;-)

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

I'm feeling that way too. I'm

I'm feeling that way too. I'm hesitant though because the same thing is ofter said on other sites about RP...that we go en mass and bomb their comments section and are pushy and then people get turned off from RP. Yet we always say if you are behind RPs principles why would you let your annoyance of his supporters dissuade you from supporting him. However, I do feel it is a bit different with GJ because I don't support him and am not very inclined to do so because I am skeptical on his principles and not sure about his passion for the platform we want to see. I think he is a compromiser and, less importantly, he lacks charisma. He just doesn't move me. Eh, I might vote for him but probably not. I definitely am not switching parties to do so.

unless Ron runs Gary is the only liberty candidate

I'd love to vote for Ron but will vote Libertarian if he dosen't run which he's pretty much said as much.

Long Live Ron Paul!! Long Live Liberty!!

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

Agreed.

Obviously these people were not real supporters of the liberty movement if they abandon the cause after minor setbacks.

It's like a Washington and the soldiers at Vally Forge saying " It is too darn cold. Ahhhhhh, who needs individual liberty anyway. Let's head home. "

That happened to me 3 months ago when they started

bombing Daily Paul with GJ and causing division. I stopped reading DP for a while because all the GJ crap on here.

Thank you for posting. Yeah,

Thank you for posting.

Yeah, I've known about GJ for many years. The plastering of this site since way back with GJ stuff was a bit annoying.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Hope for the best and expect

Hope for the best and expect the worst. What's wrong with preparation? Many of us GJ supporters are RP supporters that want to keep moving forward. Some people around here are content with spinning their wheels in the mud. I understand the wanting to wait to hear what Dr. Paul has to say about a third party run. But we can plan for the future while hoping in the present.

I totally agree. Sure does

I totally agree. Sure does put all the campaigning/trolling to Romney/Santorum/Gingrich/Bachman people in perspective. No wonder they didn't like us by the time we were done. At this point, even though part of me would like to back Johnson, I am so turned off to him from having him shoved in my face here day in and day out that I'm either writing in Ron Paul or choosing another third party candidate.

Blessings )o(

I honestly believe you would

I honestly believe you would never vote for Gary Johnson no matter what. You are tunnel visioned and you will likely do a throw away vote or vote for willard.

Formerly rprevolutionist

Dr Paul has everyone's support if he calls for it

If Dr Paul announced a run I would support it instantly. I supported him every national run so far and he has my deepest respect. But there is absolutely no indication he will do so, and every reason to think he will not.

As he keeps pointing out to us, the r3volution is not a cult of personality and it's not about one man. Dr Paul has given us more than we had any right to expect already. If he isnt running then we need to coalesce behind another candidate and we need to do it very quickly - elections are not far away now.

There are going to be three candidates on the ballot, effectively. The incumbent, the guy that just bought a half dozen states and the national convention to prevent our voices from even being heard ever so briefly at the convention, and Governor Johnson. It seems a pretty clear choice to me.

Well said

Its one thing to iniciate dialog and debate it's another to well you know what I mean......

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Pro-Abortion.. HELL NO!!!

Johnson is just another crappy neo-con politician.

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Pro choice is not pro

Pro choice is not pro abortion. I have no write in option in Oklahoma. It is a thrown away ballot. They are trying to get Gary Johnson off the ballot here. I will (God forgive me!) vote for the pretender we now have in the white house if that happens. I do not agree with Gary Johnson 100% but I don't agree with Ron Paul 100% either. I hope Gary is on the ballot so I can vote my conscience. I will never vote for willard after all the cheating I have seen.

Formerly rprevolutionist

I've had that suspicion as

I've had that suspicion as well. Is he a neocon in libertarian clothing.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Anti Romney

I think the recent open-enthusiasm for Johnson is inspired by how brazen Romney was with our delegates and party rules. I don't believe anybody is suggesting anti-Ron Paul.

Ron Paul or bust. Gary can

Ron Paul or bust. Gary can wait.

Wait for what??? Seriously,

Wait for what??? Seriously, we have 9 weeks approx til the gen election. What the heck is Ron going to do in that time? He is no longer a candidate. Accept reality and move on. Decide who you will support now! If this was all about 1 man we lost big time. Let's try to unite and send a message to the gop that they pissed off a lot of voters and we will not fall in line and vote for willard!

Formerly rprevolutionist

Hard to believe you are downvoted for supporting dr Paul

Here on the Daily Paul. It just goes to show the depth of disrespect.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

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don' worry this is a good sign, the place is crawling

with Johnson and GOP trolls today (and GOP trolls masquerading as Johnsonites,) which can only mean they are scared. Double down!

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Right on Sue. Right on.

Right on Sue. Right on.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.