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GOP Shocker : Republican Platform Endorses a Value Added Tax Or National Sales Tax

The 2012 Republican Platform calls for a complete overhaul of the federal tax system. No surprise there. But then it endorses a value-added tax or national sales tax as one possible solution to the nation's budget problems. This is shocking.

The VAT would be adopted only if it is accompanied by "the simultaneous repeal of the Sixteenth Amendment, which established the federal income tax," the platform states. A Republican-controlled Congress passed that amendment in 1909, and the states ratified it in 1913. The tax was aimed squarely at the ultra-wealthy, targeting the top 1% of wage earners.

Removal of the 99-year-old tax amendment is so unlikely that the platform plank seems facetious. As for the VAT, perhaps it was inserted in the document for yucks, too. A mere two years ago, "VAT" was an obscenity in GOP circles. The Republican National Committee, which produced the 2012 platform in 2010, vigorously attacked the value-added tax after Obama advisor Paul Volcker said that a VAT or a carbon tax might be needed to narrow the budget deficit. The RNC assumed that the Democrats would add the regressive VAT to existing taxes and consequently soak the middle class.

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Why the GOP is Changing On Economy

Traditional support of the GOP comes from the older upper middle class...traditional support for DNC is lower middle class and those takers on the "dole".

Romney and Ryan are working a platform to keep older middle class fiscally solvent so they will continue to vote RNC. Surely the Lower classes living on the "dole" will not go RNC. So Ryan now supports Medicare...so this old middle class comes to the voting booths to vote RNC and not Obama...

It's all about the Vote...

AND THEY NEED THE MONEY, THEY ARE SHORT ON PAYDAYS IN WASHINGTON

"This isn't what the govern meant"

"Win the crowd and you will win your freedom"

In a republic, the government is merely a servant - Mark Twain

Utter nonsense, the income tax be! Please search Twain comments @ DailyPaul:

  • Income Tax
  • WW I tax
  • Never ratified
  • Grace Commission

    Get yer self an education... before schooling gets you!

    The income tax & its pretend amendment is also known as the War Tax! WW I tax. Foolish. Folly! The War ended over a century ago! The Treasury even sent out thank you letters stating as much. The money is long spent & gone! The War tax is over.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/user/29229#t=00m48s"> In a republic, the government is merely a servant - Mark Twain stated what our government should be (37 second stage presentation film clip).

  • Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

    First of all , The Federal

    First of all , The Federal Income Tax Law was never ratified by the complete number of states needed , so while this article bypasses that , let us also be aware that there's become an Awakening of We The People . This began with the 2008 Ron Paul presidential campaign , through the 2010 congressional elections and now presently to the 2012 presidential election .

    The Politicians have gotten away with the unconstitutionality of the Federal Income Tax Law for 99 years ., but in todays times , the people are rising to question authority and the laws they write to protect themselves , and not the common man. So this VAT is being considered by the GOP simply because the people will , in the very near future expose the Tax law for what it really is , fraudulent . The government's present method of collecting income taxes is unconstitutional because wages, rents, dividends, and interest are not income. Income can only be a corporate profit. So once exposed , I believe people will be outraged by where these collected taxes goes . Not a dime of these taxes goes to any U.S. government program or service. It goes to private lenders , that is , the Federal Reserve to pay the interest only on currency lent to the U.S. Government.

    So this is why the Vaule Added Tax is now being considered with the simultaneous repeal of the Sixteenth Amendment . The politicians are lightening the load before their ship sinks into the Seas of Accountability because We the People are now standing up and fighting back against the forces that has corrupted every economy in the world today and one doesn't have to look further then the International Banking Cartel .

    Not one nickel...! - Grace Commission Report, 1985

    1913. A year that will live in infamy. The World War Tax. Submitted by Mark Twain, 06/29/2012

    President Reagan asked innocently, "Where do all our income tax payments go?" He created the 'Grace Commission' to find out.

    To: Mr President Reagan

    Subject: Grace Commission Summary

    ...

    "In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government."
    --- 'Grace Commission' President Ronald Reagan, 1985

    Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

    Is anyone

    shocked by this? I wouldn't be shocked if Rombama declared himself king and Fox News said that made it true.
    These people are a criminal gang and the Dems are just as bad.

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    anything BUT ending the WARS...right?

    these people are fools!

    they will be replaced!

    its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
    Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
    9/11 Truth.

    Just as Dr. Paul has said, we

    Just as Dr. Paul has said, we must cut spending!

    THIS IS NOT GOOD!!!!! Here's Why........

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    Read Dave Champion's Book "Income Tax: Shattering the Myths"

    First off, as I've said time and time again, the Income Tax is an Excise tax. Period! The average guy has NO income tax liability for his domestic source money earned in any one of the 50 states of the union.

    The 16th Amendment is a MOOT point because ALL IT DID WAS TO CONFIRM CONGRESS'S TAXING POWER CONCERNING INCOMES AS AN EXCISE TAX!!!!! You can repeal that dastardly amendment that created all this confusion all you want, IT STILL DOESN'T CHANGE CONGRESS'S TAXING POWERS CONCERNING "INCOME"! Although, i will admit, it has done wonders in confusing people as to the TRUE nature of the income tax.

    The 16th Amendment DID NOT CREATE A NEW TAXING POWER!!!!!!!! Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THAT IS UBER IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND!!!

    The Court said specifically in the Stanton v. Baltic Mining case (1916) case the following:

    "it manifestly disregards the fact that by the previous ruling it was settled that the provisions of the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, but simply prohibited the previous complete and plenary power of income taxation possessed by Congress from the beginning from being taken out of the category of indirect taxation to which it inherently belonged,"

    And the case before that which was the Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad case (1916) which stated:

    " This must be unless it can be said that although the Constitution, as a result of the Amendment, in express terms excludes the criterion of source of income, that criterion yet remains for the purpose of destroying the classifications of the Constitution by taking an excise out of the class to which it belongs and transferring it to a class in which it cannot be placed consistently with the requirements of the Constitution. Indeed, from another point of view, the Amendment demonstrates that no such purpose was intended, and on the contrary shows that it was drawn with the object of maintaining the limitations of the Constitution and harmonizing their operation."

    The VAT or FAIR TAX is a completely and utter waste of a joke.

    The Establishment WANTS you to accept a "Fair Tax" or "VAT".

    The reality is, neither a "fair tax" or a "vat" can be imposed on anyone or anything no matter the circumstances who sells something for the SAME EXACT REASONS that MOST Americans DO NOT HAVE ANY Income Tax liability.

    Congress does NOT OWN "We The People". Although they do act like they do. That's obviously evident. The "National Sales Tax" would fall under the same restrictions the "Income Tax" does but most people actually believe, with NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that "pay your fair share" nonsense that anyone who earns money no matter the circumstance, just owes an income tax. NOT TRUE! Never was, never will be.

    Now the Power Elite are pulling a bait and switch. They want YOU to believe that you won't have to pay an income tax anymore and that this national sales tax will be a great replacement. They are just switching from one fraud to another. What the Power Elite DIDN'T TELL YOU was MOST PEOPLE NEVER OWED A DIME IN INCOME TAX in the first place. Most people will fall for this because most people are aggravated with income tax. Income Tax and a National sales tax are NOT necessary for government to function at it's intended limited role.

    READ "Income Tax: Shattering the Myth's" by Dave Champion. It's the ONLY book of it's kind all about the Income Tax and WHO is actually liable for it and under what circumstances! Excellent read.

    I believe in the Republic and it's Limited Government structure.

    But, THAT'S WHAT'S Going to happen! Because ANYONE, and I mean Anyone who buys this crap is gonna be caught hook, line and sinker right into the TRAP that was intended for them in the first place. The trap of ignorance as to the TRUE LIMITED NATURE OF Congress's taxing powers!!!

    Love Liberty, be Vigilant

    "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

    Faith in God will prevail all things!

    ZERO chance of passing

    How in the world do you propose to eliminate the income tax and institute a new national sales tax when HALF of the US population doesn't pay income tax as it is?

    A repeal of the income tax replaced by a national sales tax

    would be a wonderful thing. Lifts rent off labor, burdens the buyers and sellers (consumers and corporations). This is philosophically sound to me.

    FYI, Jefferson was more for

    FYI, Jefferson was more for an income tax and an excise tax than anything else.

    Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

    Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

    Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

    Jefferson was also the first

    to suggest government funded internal improvement projects.

    Look at Europe, Spain 19%

    Look at Europe, Spain 19% VAT, UK 20% VAT, Italy 21% VAT, Romania 24% VAT, Hungary 27% VAT,despite high VAT and other taxes all this countries are broke. Another thing about VAT is that all the time there's inflation the Gov. revenue is growing, let's say price for food or energy goes up 10%, you will actually pay 12-12.5% with VAT.

    They will introduce VAT in a friendly format of 8 or9%, 20 years later it vould be 20-30%.

    In Romania, with the population treated like animals, the Gov. was very aggressive from the begining:

    1 July 1993 – 18% VAT

    1 February 1998 – 22% VAT

    1 January 2000 – 19% VAT

    1 July 2010 – 24% VAT

    Of course the country is well over $150.000.000.000 in debt, the Gov. managed to get this debt in only 22 years, country is the size of WA state and have 19.000.000 slaves.

    These countries also have

    These countries also have high income taxes.

    Wow GJ is right in line with the RNC on this.

    Why do we need a VAT because we need a big government.

    Before 1912 there were no income taxes and no VAT but we had more government than most people could stomach.

    Free includes debt-free!

    Why would anything...

    that the RNC or Romney do still surprise you?

    VAT / GST ... we've got one in Australia.

    Actually, it's pretty good as taxes go. Much better than income tax, not as good an option as a land value tax.

    Costs involved aren't huge, there is little opportunity for loopholes, and it picks up everyone.

    We use it here to fund state budgets, although it is collected and managed at a national scale. Mind you, we don't have state or local sales taxation as a result.

    Does it turn everyone into government snitches & tax collectors?

    In a free country all taxes would be eliminated.

    If government has a project then let them hold a moneybomb.

    Free includes debt-free!

    No. Yes.

    No, not everyone gets turned into a snitch. But yes, all businesses get turned into tax collectors.

    Then again, all businesses here are tax collectors anyway.

    We Have To Eliminate The I.R.S..and That Ain't Happening

    anyttme soon...We are entittled to the 'fruits of our labor...To hell with the VAT!

    We did just fine up until 1913...Now the bankers own this country...Sorry Clit, they do!

    It's all about the boomers.

    We Baby Boomers are starting to retire. There are a heck of a lot of us. Many will pay little or no income tax, and not much in capital gains either. So we have a target on our collective back. The thieves in DC will somehow find a way to sock it to us. I do not think the 16th Amendment is going to fall anytime soon though.

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    "Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

    Starting this year in Germany.

    Starting this year in Germany laws were passed that make it easier for the government to declare you unfit to manage your own money. Government then takes control of your investments.

    Free includes debt-free!

    Surprise?

    It would be a surprise if the GOP proposed real spending cuts.

    Fine, enact a VAT

    and watch the black market explode (aka, free market)!

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    RON PAUL 2012

    dump these chumps

    ... V.A.T. ... seriously?

    HAS THE "CONSERVATIVE" PARTY LOST IT'S MIND?

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    This is a related comment

    This is a (topic-)related comment I made in another thread :

    http://www.dailypaul.com/252738/alan-keyes-socialist-obama-v...

    'HTH

    "Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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    "To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

    It Would Have Been Great

    We need this debate. Let's bring out the pros and cons of every possible proposal - Fair Tax, Flat Tax, VAT, Income Tax, No Tax, 16th Amendment, etc.

    The only problem is that Romney is not qualified to debate this issue. Nor will he read the platform. In addition, Romney has already said that he totally disagrees with the Fair Tax.

    Right debate. Wrong candidate to come up with a solution that would be beneficial to us.

    Gene Louis
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    Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
    A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

    I Feel So Sad For Ron Paul.....He Was Completely Hosed!

    Repeal Creme Rinse and his band of criminals..

    These freaking rethugs

    can NOT be allowed to win in November. They have lost their minds.
    You think we are in bad shape now? Give them the majority in Congress with Romney at the helm and you will find out what fcked up really is.....

    "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
    Samuel Adams

    the BIG LIE

    They need to just repeal the 16th admendment, since it was illegally passed anyways. The big lie is that the states ratified it, which is not true.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ud4n5Py5eA