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The Gop Is Dead!

Long live the Republican Party!
I was truly inspired by the Ron Paul delegates' news conference. As they repeated, "We are Republicans", I had this thought.
We know words have power. We also know that words have changed meaning over time and that the intent of words have been shifted over time.
As the events in Tampa prove, certain elements are determined to change the intent of Republicanism.
Romney and his entourage are not Republicans. Boehner, Ryan and McConnell are also not Republicans. Most of the so-called Republican Congress are not Republicans. Except for Stossel and the Judge, there are no Republicans on Fox News.
They are GOP.
We are Republicans.
Republicanism is about the 'public'; We, the People, and recognizes that the people, as sovereign individuals, are perfectly capable of running their lives and society without interference from an overlord - be it a politician, president, prime minister or monarch. In our early history, being a republican meant you disavowed the monarchy, so saying someone wasn’t a republican meant that person was still attached to the monarchy. Hamilton was not a republican.
In John Adams' "The Defense of the Constitutions of Governments of the United States of America", he wrote:
"... that when popular elections are given up, liberty and free government must be given up."
What Romney et al adopted in Tampa with those rules changes is the end of popular elections and it marked the (near?) end of our liberty and free government.
In that same dissertation, John Adams also wrote:
"The United States of America (Republican governments) have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature (Natural Law); and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition (monarchies), they will consider this event as an era in their history."
He’s saying that as a Republic, we have throw off the shackles of monarchism – or rule by an elite family.
What Romney et al created in Tampa with those rules changes is a ‘monarchy’ – successors will be chosen from within the ‘family’. New blood will only be accepted if he or she ‘marries’ into the ideology of the family.
In Tampa, the GOP has solidified its position as an elitist family and created a new form of monarchy. As such, they cannot be Republicans.
I think we need to make a clear distinction between what is meant by the term GOP and what it means to be a Republican. I therefore suggest that we use the term GOP when referring to them and we call ourselves Republicans - except for those who prefer to be Libertarians, naturally.
I think we have the ability for a teaching moment here.

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The Difference Is REPUBLICAN and NEO-CON (Fascist).

The Difference Is REPUBLICAN and NEO-CON (Fascist).

Ron Paul tried to change that and restore The Republican Party.

They did not listen and have now DESTROYED THEMSELVES.

We are The Internet Generation. We know what they did.

This will NEVER be forgotten. Ever. They lost The Youth: The Future.

WE ARE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS.

R.I.P.- G.O.P.

RON PAUL R[3]TRIBUTION! http://youtu.be/x1lBnX9gDSQ

Wisdom Strategies

Good Teaching

I know of only one to rise above this mess.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

We've got work to do

for LIBERTY. At present the channels whereby most older Americans get their disinformation aren't airing the Liberty movement. The GOP has a place center stage right now and their corruption during this 2012 election was on full display -- mostly because of the SHARP CONTRAST between the corrupt GOP machine and the Ron Paul Supporters.

The GOP WANTS us to leave so they have no opposition to their lies. We need to challenge their script for our country. We need to infiltrate their camp -- if for no other reason than to tell the truth. Many self-described "patriots" are too dependent on the MSM and simply suffer from disinformation.

Whichever venue each of us chooses to continue our work, let's not criticize or judge one another for defending liberty in any and every venue where we can make a difference, even if we remain in the belly of the beast. If we don't go where the people are, to remind them of the principles we stand on, who will? At my local REC meeting I handed out two sheets of paper - one detailing Romney's position and the other with Paul's position. I was told by three older women at my local REC meeting that it was inappropriate for me to be anti-Romney in that place [mind you, I had just stapled together a news story about Romney and a short description of Ron Paul's stance on that issue from his campaign website]. In truth, their candidate is indefensibly corrupt, so they were ashamed.

Ron Paul went into the belly of the beast. And though his campaigns didn't accomplish all that we wished, he had a stage where his message reached you and me and millions of others. It's not so bad to follow in his steps to offer the TRUTH, which is an essential step in promoting and defending liberty.

I agree we have work to do.

If we couch the Liberty Movement as Republicanism we have a very good chance of changing more hearts and minds. We needn't get into the nitty-gritty such as the Just War theory, but buy focussing on small government/self reliant ideologies, civil liberties through the expression 'our God-given rights' and how they have been snatched from us through legislation, fiscal conservatism, and the original intent of our Constitution - and especially by quoting our Founders re these points - I think we have an excellent opportunity to gather more people into our fold.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

good it's dead

we can move on now

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

Conservative Unity

Barry Hess at the Conservative Unity Event, sponsored by the Western Pinal Republican Club on Saturday, November 12, 2011 in Casa Grande, Arizona.
http://youtu.be/0rPConhpv-4

I was gonna post this as a topic of it's own, figuring it was as relevant today as it was nearly a year ago. Maybe more so. But it fits in here as a comment, so this must be where it was intended to be.

That was great

Thanks for the Barry Hess clip, I have never heard him before.

Really?

A little secret some people these days don't like to acknowledge. Barry and Ernest Hancock kind of kicked this whole thing off for Ron Paul back in the spring of 07. They inspired a summer to remember.
http://youtu.be/c7j1Is5NG2o

"If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right." - Ernest Hancock

Republic vs. Tyranny

Yes, you would think Republicans would at least pretend to admire the principles and practices of a Republic. Boehner and Priebus and their pals made it clear that they prefer Tyranny. There are still too many ordinary citizen Republicans who have absolutely no idea what really happened at the RNC Sham Convention beyond what they saw on the TV Romney RNC Convention Infomerical.

Night of the Living Dead

Just like zombies, some DP'ers will stay in the GOP and endlessly wander the cemetary scaring the bejeezus out of the rest of us.

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Why no one else has commented is also unknown to me.

I agree with you that members of the present GOP are not true republicans, like the DNC are no longer true democrats. Kennedy was a democrat,...hard to believe in this skewed reality that we are in. Ron Paul is the only true republican. The GOP does not like true republicans because they see their own hypocrisy, so they did what they did to Ron Paul to make themselves feel better living with their own hypocrisy.

Your argument is correct, but most of America doesn't know that the parties as well as the country has been taken over.

Quote:
"Romney and his entourage are not Republicans. Boehner, Ryan and McConnell are also not Republicans. Most of the so-called Republican Congress are not Republicans. Except for Stossel and the Judge, there are no Republicans on Fox News."

In reference to your quote, I hesitate to go here, but with the present turmoil already on the DP, why not. You avoided Rand. Where does he fit in, in your opinion? ....a republican or in the GOP. Sorry to put you on the spot after your putting this story together. In dealing with absolutes, Ron Paul is the only true republican. Then, there are the others. Rand is 80% republican and 20% GOP, IMO. Is that a good enough percentage?

I don't think we have to go there

Rand is still too new to determine he if he is a monarchist or not. I think knowing where a person stands depends on how he/she votes and his/her conduct while a politician. Can we say Rand's voting record on the legislation passed during his tenure so far indicates his love for Big Government? I think not.
There will be very few 'purists' out there when it comes to any ideology. If we nit-pick we'll never get anywhere.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

NO

SteveMT's picture

We purest, idealistic, Constitutionalists are.....

a rare find on the DP these days. What is going on here?

The establishment purge...

Why do you think people are being banned on here SteveMT... Hunter started it, and the Rand enablers are enforcing it, along with those who are looking for their next paycheck, instead of preserving liberty for ALL, NO exceptions, NO exclusions!!!

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I hate bumping myself

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison