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The Kosher Tax most Americans dont know they're paying!

http://www.viewzone.com/kosher.html

Just an FYI... some of you won't care, others will add it to their growing list of products to avoid for one reason or another. If you have the time, please read!

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For ALL the information he presented

There was one elephant in the living room he missed, Islam.

Muslim eat Kosher, but call it Halal. Being that it is the biggest and fastest growing religion for being evenagelized in our massive prison system, which unlike other religions, where here in America, you can leave when you want, Muslims don't let a Muslim leave.

And maybe the author is a Muslim, since Latin Americans, Jose Padilla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Padilla_(prisoner) for example, those who are challanging the American court system by demanding to be tried in Sharia Court (which would free them)..

I thought this line was funny, "This is NOT about Jews! It's about business." Since when was Jews not about business?

My guess is that Muslims can't compete, so they cheat, and want to destroy the "Jewish business", as that's the only real business they appear to actually have going for them. You think Halal foods wouldn't be taxed?

So, go ahead and stop eating the products with U stamped on them. It's your loss, because in truth, those products go beyond US/USDA inspections, and for that, the small tax is worth the price. Israel will prevail.

I'm not seeing the problem.

There are a lot of old Rabbis who have eaten Kosher their entire lives.

MDs live 58 years on average. Professional athletes 62 years. The American couch potato lives 75.5 years.

My question is, Do Kosher diets increase longevity?

We pay a stiff tax to borrow the billions we've wasted on the FDA, whose approved chemicals and drugs have killed and sickened millions and cured only infections.

Free includes debt-free!

Since kosher law requires

Since kosher law requires that all meat from land animals are soaked and salted 3 times Jews are more suspectible to high blood pressure and heart disease as well. Our food tends to be pretty high in saturated fats that also results in a tendency to Alzheimer's Disease. IMHO a kosher diet doesn't increase longevity.

http://www.tuftsmedicalcenter.org/OurServices/SpecialService...

What follows was the answer from the OU to my question about whether GMO's were considered kosher -

Thank you for contacting the OU.

The OU is a Kosher certifying agency. Health aspects of food production are beyond our area of expertise. Issues of health and safety are the domain of the FDA and USDA, and the OU will certify products that are in compliance with FDA and USDA regulations.

Halacha is extremely sensitive to matters of health, to the extent that chamira sakanta meisura (life-threatening health concerns generally take precedence over Halachic restrictions). Nonetheless, as a kashrus agency, the expertise of the OU is limited to the domain of kosher supervision, and the evaluation of the health status of a product is beyond the scope of the OU’s mandate. There are government agencies that are entrusted with the responsibility of insuring the safety of food items, and the OU certifies products that meet the criteria of public health and safety requirements.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you have any further questions.

Sincerely,

The Web(be) Rebbe
Orthodox Union Kashruth Division

What makes absolutely no sense to me is that rabbis are neither geneticists nor farmers. They make these rulings without a single shred of scientific evidence and are basing their decisions based solely on cost and convenience (plus whatever other Zionist monkey business is going on). The general consensus in the religious community here is that the gene splice used to create something like a spidergoat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0zT9CN3-50) is too small to matter. For me personally, you're either kosher or you're not and the spider DNA isn't kosher.

Ah, but high saturated fat and sufficient salt are healthy.

Fried foods, nitrites, nitrates and plant oils are not.

Several studies show have shown that salt restriction can promote heart disease and interfere with protein and nutrient absorption.

The 30 year Framingham Heart study gave healthier scores to people eating saturated fat and high cholesterol diets.

Beef, butter (not together) eggs and chocolate. Salt to taste. The farmer trusts his cows with a salt lick. Salt to taste!

On the other hand there is no science supporting restricting sodium chloride intake. Restricting salt causes problems like heartburn and gas.

As far a modern GMO (splicing) no one has proven that it won't prevent growing 100 years old.

Over the years a lot of food trends have come and gone. Tradition tends to keep what works, only recently has science bolstered traditional habits.

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So That's Why ! !

Years ago I threw a Lobster feast for some distant relatives, and was astounded when some of them refused to eat Lobster......Good, all the more Lobsters for us Lobster eaters.

beesting

Since I'm Jewish I know a little bit about it.

Submitted by Cirocco on Wed, 07/24/2013 - 10:44. Permalink

Visited the DP today already and saw the thing about the kosher tax.

The Orthodox Union (OU) determines kosher standards for religious Jews regarding not only food, but also products like toilet paper, moisturizers, soap and anything made from living organisms. A religious Jew would be prohibited from keeping a Venus flytrap in their home just as an example. All fruits and vegetables are kosher with the exception of certain varieties of grapes that have to be grown in a particular kind of compost. However, bugs and worms that may be found in some fruits and vegetables are not kosher. Fruits and vegetables that are prone to this sort of thing should be inspected to ensure that they contain no bugs. Leafy vegetables like lettuce and herbs and flowery vegetables like broccoli and cauliflower are particularly prone to bugs and should be inspected carefully. Strawberries and raspberries can also be problematic. The Star-K kosher certification organization has a very nice overview of the fruits and vegetables prone to this and the procedure for addressing it in each type.

Kosher animal slaughter is extremely specific and requires a high level of skill and Torah knowledge. A rabbi might study for a decade just to learn the procedure, and much like doctors pass along the cost of their education to their patients so does a rabbi pass along the cost of his studies to consumers. Kosher food is notoriously expensive. I cannot personally afford it. My parents got around this problem by splitting the cost of a steer with relatives and then dividing the carcass after slaughter so we would kosher it ourselves in the basement. You can imagine what kind of childhood I had. 600 lbs. of meat that all had to be soaked and salted 3 times before being wrapped and frozen. A little shop of Jewish horrors for a kid, but I suppose it's why I'm not particularly squeamish about blood and stuff today.

Thanks Cirocco!

We are so glad to have you here at DP! We love intelligent newcomers with tons of knowledge and various cultural backgrounds that we can learn from.

I am sure glad that nobody would dare ban you for breaking the hidden rule (one which you had no clue of) of questioning the legitimacy of a one, Jeff Bauman and then send you a scathingly sarcastic and condescending response when you dare question the reason for the ban.

Voluntary action =/= tax

These companies voluntarily hire the rabbis. IOW, the rabbis are not robbing anyone, but are providing a service that the companies value.

Some points:
1. The Companies weigh the cost against the prospects of being labeled "not kosher". They chose to pay.

2. Prices determine costs, not the other way around. Assuming that costs affect prices would result in some very interesting scenarios that simply do nothing to describe the real world.

3. Costs (including taxes) cannot be directly "passed" to the customer through a higher price. Every company sells its products at a price that maximizes TOTAL income. A higher price will push marginal customers into the sub-marginal, reducing the total income to the company.

4. If these companies made an entrepreneurial mistake, then there is room for competition to reap a profit by skipping the bogus rituals. Maybe the blogger would like to put the keyboard down and start a business if they truly believe there is a better way to satisfy peoples' desires.

5. It's not a "tax". If the companies could receive a higher income by rejecting the bogus rituals, the (insert derogatory adjective here) businessmen would insist upon it IMMEDIATELY). This option isn't available when being robbed at badge-point.

"I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."

It's Not a Tax.

Repost. delete please

"I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."

Why?

It's an observation. You want to censor it?

LOL. Cuz you don't need to

LOL. I posted twice by accident.....Cuz you don't need to read the same thing twice?

"I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."

everyone knows

these companies are forced to pay a fee to receive their little K symbol. If they refuse, they are targeted. Cost gets passed on to consumers.

Racket.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Most of the name brands in

Most of the name brands in supermarkets are kosher. Just look at Reynolds Wrap, Cling Wrap, or your aluminum foil.

Try looking on the cap.

Try looking on the cap of coca cola bottles. Its right there.

Bump!

Bump this!

Wow. This is some research. Very informative.

I haven't had time to read the entire article yet, but what I have read is eye-opening and shocking.

Naturally anyone opposing the pracitices herein will be branded anti-Semitic. Just like when anyone advocates ending all foreign aid to every country.

Immediately the question comes up "even Israel?"

To which I say yes - even Israel because it's not authorized in our constitution to tax us and give it away to any foreign nation.

Then when they say "but Israel is our best friend" I say of course they are. When you're the largest recipient of free U.S. taxpayer money, why wouldn't you be our best "friend?"

And yet Congress continues to authorize giving away billions upon billions of our money to other countries.

When I see these diplomats and lobbyists going to congress for foreign aid and congress nods its head in approval my blood boils.

You can see it on C-SPAN as organizations like U.S.A.I.D. plead their cases to suck our money away and the f'ing congress approves it every year.

Thanks for posting this.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Ask them how Israel has been

Ask them how Israel has been our "best friend." That is such nonsense. Israel is our greatest spy threat. It was involved in 9/11, the attac on the US Liberty, etc. Really, what has Israel ever done for the US?

I radomly picked from a cupboard-

Log Cabin pancake syrup, Gulden's mustard, Meijer (store brand) peanut oil, and Frito's corn chips. They all had the circle U except the Fritos, which had a triangle with a K in it.

I looked on a bottle of RC Cola

only symbol I see is a circled R. I always thought that meant trademark. Am I wrong?

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correct, the...

circle R is trademark. there is a list of the symbols they use in the article.

free market

This is what a free market is all about. And, as someone who prefers kosher meat, I'm happy to pay the surcharge.

I knew about this a long time ago and won't eat . . .

beef that isn't locally grown and slaughtered (and I live in a rural area far from any large city)--

buying local does help; growing your own food does help; making things from 'scratch' does help--

but some basics can't avoid this 'tax'--

maybe it's not a tax; I am not sure what it would be called; there are times when there is nothing else to buy--

I'll check my containers of olive oil and the bags of organic legumes/grains I buy--

to see if that little "k" is on there--

As with anything basically good, it can be taken too far--

there may have been a good intent in the first place; I suppose the time needed by the rabbi to inspect is worth something--

but then I respect the rights of those who are neither Jewish (nor Islamic; Muslims don't appreciate the use of pigs for ingestion either) nor like myself, a Christian who tries to consider sound dietary recommendations and doesn't eat pork--

so it concerns me--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

definition of tax

i read the article and I didn't see anithing that make the payment compulsory under the law and the threat of violence, therefore this is not a tax.

You're right-

It's a racket.

Simple solution.If you don't

Simple solution.

If you don't want to pay the Kosher tax look at the label and don't buy that product.

you are correct!

but just going through my kitchen and man.... I'd probably go hungry if I had to avoid it at every turn.

The cereal in the cupboard, the bottled water that sits in front of me, and the pediasure we just bought are all in. Not to mention the milk, apple juice, and vegetable oil.

True, But...

Many, many food items are 'automatically kosher' so therefore a company can place the K symbol on it even if no rabbi has been involved whatsoever. It then becomes a bonus marketing feature for the company and costs *nothing*.

If you see a U with a circle around it, that probably means that orthodox rabbis made sure it was kosher through some type of inspection process at some point. It is 'vouched for' to some degree.

If it simply has a K on it, there is a good chance it is just 'automatic kosher'.

If I grow some apples and then package them, I can place a K on them because apples are always automatically kosher (so long as I inspect for bugs, etc which I'd probably do anyway since nobody likes worms in their apples). Now I can advertise to possible kosher customers that my product is kosher and it cost me nothing to gain additional customers.

Interestingly, strict Muslim diets also have certain prescriptions and more often than not those can be met by eating Kosher. There are plenty of people who like Kosher food who are not Jewish and possibly only as many as 10% of Jews keep kosher... at least in America.

Blah blah blah blah blah

There is nothing wrong with kosher. There is nothing wrong with slitting a cows throat so that it bleeds properly. And even though the "orthodox" Jewish traditions can be ignorant at times, those of us who believe in and follow the one true Elohim appreciate that we can by food that doesn't have pig or other filthy unclean crap in it.

You sound like just another hell bent christian to me.

Industrial Meat

Industrial animal factories are the most cruel and inhumane and kosher guidelines would rule out almost all meat from such places. Back before small scale 'organic' and 'free range' farms started gaining traction in the market, people who wanted meat free from antibiotics and other byproducts of industrial animal factories could choose kosher and they still can.

See CAFO: The Tragedy of Industrial Animal Factories

Interestingly, "Hebrew National" hot dogs are not actually kosher because they are produced in such an animal factory. When the brand started, it was kosher and got its meat from small farms.