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Masons Fear Competition

I will never understand the Masons because I believe in winning.

Masons seem to believe that they are winners because they believe that they control the game. They step up to the plate with confidence in what they are doing, while knowing that whatever they have been pitched will be called by their brother umpire in favor of their own interests. You will never know how it feels like to hit a home run.

Once in a while, they get in to a game where they demonstrate clearly the sorry lot of losers that they in fact are and they excuse themselves with a notion that winning is not important. You are now losing.

Ideologically empty and like a second class mafia, they crawl in the darkness because they fear that their ideas be exposed to the light of scrutiny by those who they consider are not worthy of their hoarded knowledge. You only fool yourselves.

Like parasites they bribe generations of the weak who in gratitude follow the path of bread crumbs that has been laid before them to eat and perpetuate the infantile nature of the ideas that must be defended due to a sense of false gratitude and not reason.

I declare myself free from your bullshit. You may think you control every man, but certainly not me.

When you ask me why I want to win, I reply.. Why do you want to lose?

Peace.. or not.

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American Freemasonry at the time of the Founders

Was unrecognizable in comparison to Masonry today. So don't include Washington, Franklin, and others from that time period on your list.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

And you know this how? I am a Freemason. Are you?

Where do you get the authority to determine that Freemasonry has changed so radically?

Washington and Franklin would recognize me as a brother, in their time or this. Would they you?

Can you provide any documented facts to back up your assertions?

According to your argument no one can claim to be Christian today, since it has been so long since the Crucifixion.

According to your argument none of us can claim to be human since it has been so long since the Stone Age.

The founders raised the hue

The founders raised the hue and cry against some masonry after the french revolution because it was infiltrated with Illuminati and the like. You can read those books yourself. That they wrote books against it speaks volumes.

In the 1830s, another hue and cry was raised, mainly I believe from a masonic murder, although my recollection may not be accurate.

Mason originally was simply a guild for stone masons. It's infiltration has been going on for a long time. And people can get involved in something where they don't know how rotten the people around them are - happens all the time in this wicked world.

The wanting to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem and rites associated with that is a dead give away as to who is behind it. That is completely anti-Christ, and something every occult organization seems to have in common.

The church is the bride of Jesus Christ, and the members of it are the temple of the Holy Spirit.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I happen to be editing Elias

I happen to be editing Elias Bourdinot's works at the moment, and this is just a brief mention in a much larger book - but whole books also were written on the subject. It was very much a part of history at one time.

""When, in my opinion, it had answered the original design, I desisted from any farther pursuit of the subject, till a short time since, when, being credibly informed, that thousands of copies of the Age of Reason, had been sold at public auction, in this city, at a cent and an half each, whereby children, servants, and the lowest people, had been tempted to purchase, from the novelty of buying a book at so low a rate; my attention was excited, to find out what fund could afford so heavy an cxpence, for so unworthy an object.

I was soon convinced, that a principle of the illuminati in Europe, had been adopted by some unknown persons in this country, viz. -- that of fixing on the rising generation, and the lower orders of the people, as the chief objects of an attack, for spreading the principles of infidelity; finding, from long experience, that the arts of deception must ever fail, where sound learning and pure science prevail. ""

* One of the principles of the illuminati in France, at the head of which among others, was Talleyrand Perigord, bishop of Autun, was " That every man was his own God -- his own lawgiver -- and amenable only to himself." -- Vide Smith's letter to the editor of Dr. Robertson on the illuminati.

Also some mention of the connection of other groups in the french revolution that I can't find at the moment - which doubtless is what turned it so bloody and godless as opposed to the American war for independence.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I think the Jacobins

Were the French masons involved in the revolution.

You must be referring to

The murder of William Morgan, by freemaons. The uproar after that incident sparked the formation of the first third party in the US, the Anti-Masonic party.

See here:



Freemasonry was definitely infiltrated long ago and turned into a vehicle for the NWO:

"I have been convinced that we, as an order, have come under the power of some very evil occult order, profoundly versed in Science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being black magic, that is to say, electromagnetic power, hypnotism, and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the order is being controled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that order itself."

-Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of World FreeMasonry

Thanks for the information.

Thanks for the information. That is who I was thinking about.

Still researching it, but I'm happy to read what the people at the time period said - ie see quote I quoted from a founder, above, as an example.

My working hypothesis is that it was infiltrated with kabbalah-ism, what some would call "christian kabbalah-ism", in the higher mystical ranks which many members don't see and some call offshoots and not standard. Kabbalah is the same word used in cabal - or secret society. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cabal. It is also the occult and witchcraft found behind much of the western occult. The rite for rebuilding a temple in Jerusalem is a dead give away, as it benefits only one group.

But it will take at least a year for this to be worked out properly.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.


Freemasonry is based on Kabbalah, as are nearly all occultic practices.

"Kabalah is the key of the occult sciences." -- Albert Pike

"Freemasonry is kabbalism in another garb." -- Freemason F. De P. Castelle

"The whole basis of our theory is the Qabalah." -- Aleister Crowley, Freemason and father of modern satanism

"....the theories of Qabbalism are inextricably interwoven with the tenets of alchemy, Hermeticism, Rosicrucianism, and Freemasonry." -- 33rd Degree Freemason Manly Palmer Hall

They are damned by their own writings. They were much more open 100+ years ago as to what they're really about. The internet is killing them.

George Washington was aware of it

"It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am.
The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in _this_ Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of separation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a separation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned."

He just didn;t think masonry, as a whole, was involved...perhaps that was true...back in THOSE days.


Thank you for helping me make my point.

I will not bother explaining it because you "folks" seem to already know it all.

No hate here BTW.. only pity.


I try to change people every day. Do You?

Your point being that you are prejudiced and present no facts?

You should have pity, self-pity. I give evidence, you offer opinion.

Please go to one of the numerous Scottish Rite or Shriner Children's Hospitals, and ask the kids if they think Freemasons are evil? They receive free medical care and the only requirement is that other doctor's have said the child is beyond help.

I am not going to look for a response, since facts obviously don't interest you. "....you "folks" seem to already know it all."

No Freemason would ever make a claim of omniscience. We are striving to learn all we can about all subjects, unlike you. You claim to have all knowledge of a subject you've already proven yourself ignorant in.

What percentage

of the money they take in goes to "the kids" and how much gets sucked down some black hole of the New World Order? Very little goes to the kids.

They only do good deeds so others SEE them doing it, not because they care. It's a front. They are modern-day pharisees. Image is everything.

And, IMO, a few good deeds (done for show) don't make up for a whole lot of bad stuff.

ok I will bite.

Would you agree that Freemasons control most governments in North and South America as well as Europe? I will assume you will if you want to be intellectually honest.

If I am to judge you by your actions, I have no problems saying that you are indeed criminals who are responsible for millions of deaths and the incarceration o millions more because lets admit it, your "organization" also controls most of the court systems.

I am not judging you personally because I do not know you, but you will find it hard to argue that your brotherhood is full of rotten apples.



I try to change people every day. Do You?

Here in New Zealand, they

Edit: I just re-read your post, and to be honest, I don't think it merits any real reply.

Thank you..

For not wasting my time in responding to what may have become a meritless reply to my post.


I try to change people every day. Do You?

I question EVERYTHING, so

I question EVERYTHING, so having a lot of family in the Masonic Lodge has been interesting. I never joined because I don't believe in a higher being. But I've seen massive amounts of what goes on within the organisation over the years, more than any non-member would typically see. I've had countless long conversations with Masons, I probably know about a hundred of them within my community. They give more money to communities than all of the Christian churches combined. They make the Vatican Church look like a pack of selfish scumbags, in comparison.

Try to balance your reading of InfoWars out with some reading of the other side. If you pick up something Alex Jones has a beef with and slap it all over here, without looking at the other side of the equation, you're a moron.

Alex Jones? He has done more than most Masons,,

I do not subscribe to him either for your information..

I have eyes to see and what I can see tells me that the Masons are not a force seeking stability. The Masons strive on currency, they have no values to defend and they use the energy around them to move their windmills for self profit.

They could be considered the ultimate capitalists if they had the courage to reveal their "philosophy" to the world. The truth is that they hide like the cowards they are, and at the same time seem to expect respect from those of us who have defended FREEDOM with our face to the camera, or any other objective that dares to point in our direction.

I have no respect for little boys who join up in a gang and try to intimidate royal men who stand on this land and claim their right to their own kingdom.

I am indeed a FREEMAN who is waiting for you to show your true colors, and I hope you do not wait long because I do not want to pass this burden on to my children who are not at fault for your ignorance.

Take the first step, I will respond. I dare you.


I try to change people every day. Do You?