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Letter to Ron Paul from Evan Cutler about the teleconference

My slightly edited letter to Dr. and Carol Paul today--edits noted with brackets.

Hello Dr. and Carol Paul,

I held a teleconference last night on the subject of your supporters persuading you back into the race Dr. Paul.

The response was overwhelming!

The short story is that [edited for privacy: many important members of the Libertarian party and campaign] contacted me, and they would do what it takes to have you on their ticket as a VP Candidate. They have spoken with [edited for privacy: ...and inform me] you will get the VP spot on their ticket if you will take it. The vast majority of their party activists and organizers want you. The infusion of energy your supporters will bring to that party will bring light to all you and they have worked for in a way that your mere endorsement will not.

The bigger story is that by my simply posting the link to our teleconference in our Private Alaskans for Ron Paul 2012 groups, and one post on the Lawyers for Paul group, I set off a firestorm. Word grew exponentially in just one day.

Our teleconference room was filled to capacity (1,000), with 1800+ people participating. It was live streamed and listened to by another 1,100 people on just one internet channel, and it was live streamed elsewhere.

Many of your National Delegates and State Activist Leaders were on the call, but also many Libertarians, Democrats, and Independents. This is just the beginning.

The people want you to give us two more months and help spread the message of liberty. There are of course concerns by some (particular those running for office), but there is a commitment by most to keep working in the Republican Party, and to do everything they can to convince you to run. My incoming email is more than I can handle, and our best Alaskan delegates and activists are working right now to put in new infrastructure and speed up the communication. You will see an immense wave of support in the coming days this week.

The Libertarian Party needs to hear from you soon, if this will work.

I can put you or your people in touch with them.

We NEED you not to give up. It’s not about winning the election, it’s about spreading the message of Liberty. If you will but give us two more months, you will magnify your life’s work and reach the largest audience yet. You will electrify your supporters and send an important message to those who would suppress fair participation in all parties. Your joining the Libertarian ticket will instantly get the polling up high enough that you will be included in the nationally televised debates. And we will bring tens of millions of dollars quickly to their struggling campaign. They are under attack by the Romney Campaign, trying to strip them of ballot access in several states, but they are in the very strongest position for your run…and your joining them will bring the support they need.

Besides, on the off chance that you actually win, being VP is a lot easier than President.

Please let me know what we can do to help convince you. I can send you the most pertinent communications I’ve received, and a link so you can hear our two hour call from last night for yourself. I can send you the call logs to prove I’m telling the truth.

We will keep trying to win your support for our support, Dr. Paul, We’ve worked too hard to quit now.

And remember, Miracles do happen! The Berlin Wall came down in a day! The Soviet Empire dissolved without a civil war! Women got the vote!

Everyone around the country tells me the only signs they really see are for Ron Paul. Your grassroots support is so much more than you know, especially if you are not on a Republican ticket.

We all know the risks to our progress in the Republican Party, but that movement won’t stop,

More good than harm will come from your taking this risk,

We need you to stand tall for Liberty sir, just a bit longer, please,



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Dr. Paul can have the Constitution Party Nomination IF...

... the present nominee, Virgil Goode, is willing to step aside (Virgil's choice) for Dr. Paul. This information is from a number of phone calls I had with the CP Chairman months ago.

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C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

2800+ participants?

Not sure where this guy gets his #'s but when i called in just a few minutes before the conference began, it told me there are 320 participants" and that we were "waiting for the moderator to join"

now he says there were 1000 people on the call and 1800 concurrent internet listeners.

apparently he thinks exaggerating at best, and lying at worst, is a great way to convince paul to run third party.

If you listened to everything Evan said Troy

from the time he started talking until the time he opened up for people to talk and didn't get it (I did) there is something very wrong about you. Evan clearly explained who he is and yet you continue to leave little puddles on all the posts related to this.

As we can see in the comments below you were wrong.

You don't seem to have any fight left in you unless it's for the other side perchance?

Troy and you sure ain't much of a Ron Paul supporter but that's just my opinion.

Keep firing away pal all you do is save us from bumping the post. We'll get the word out without you anyway.

Keep trying to discredit probably the hardest working Ron Paul supporter (since 2007) the State of Alaska has seen as it will only further solidify the ass you have made of yourself regarding this outstanding effort to get Dr.Paul into the Whitehouse.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

there were

sever internet radio stations doing it at the same time, the one I was on had around 500 alone!

When I called

There were 900 and something on the phone part of the conference. The auto operator doesn't tell you how many where in the building but he got a room to hold 1000. It was very hard to heard so many on the phone part may have not stayed hooked up. I didn't.

When I called in it was like #960 or something. So Evan's claims

When I called in it was like #960 something. So Evan's claim seems right on the phone call. The VP option was not posed clearly as its own question in my recollection.
My take was that most of us were considering this as a Paul/Johnson option over a Johnson/Paul option.

My thoughts posted just after the conference last night; http://www.dailypaul.com/252994/johnson-and-lp-could-give-th...

Fun thoughts;

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

I was 10 minutes early and the 3rd caller.

Right after the conference started I moved my phone to have a smoke and got disconnected. When I called back it was in the vicinity of 980 something or other.

I didn't have a stop watch so +/- this and that.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

no, when i called in it was

no, when i called in it was over 920


I called in five-ten minutes before the meeting started, and it was over 700 then.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose

I was there

He didn't say anything about "VP" WTF. I would have chimed in if that were the case.

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

Yes he did

I was on the call and he definitely talked about the vp spot being the only one he thought was possible for Ron Paul since LP rules state if GJ stepped down, the vp spot (Gray) would move up. There was a caller who asked about it too.

You missed it.

I heard it.

It was also recorded.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul


shoot. I don't know how I missed it. I would have *69ed in a heartbeat.

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat


GJ doesn't even deserve to clean Ron Pauls toilet, and you want him in the VP slot? The guy talks a good talk, but he is no where even close to Ron Paul.

REMEMBER: Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk is just Talk. DON'T LET GJ DISTORT OUR MESSAGE!!!

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

I'm afraid many of you have

I'm afraid many of you have been co-opted into this "choice" scenario. We don't choose the "better" option. We stand strong and vote for Ron Paul. We cant budge on our principles. What has RP taught us for god sakes.

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat


Do not be short-sighted.

RP would be very influential as VP, among other things.

Or do you simply and easily prefer obama/romney.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

You seem to be short-sighted

Our role is introducing a strong message to the establishment, and spreading that message across the nation. GJ is not a strong message. RP is!
If you are in any way not aware of this. The establishment has already chosen Obama. Obama will stay president and Romney will loose to him. Mitt Romney was in no way designed to win. Romney was created by the establishment to lose.
Now that we have that straight. If GJ wasn't selfish, and the libertarian party were truly liberty lovers. GJ would be VP, and RP would be running for pres.

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

Sign all over one link Jeb Bush 2016

They have already changed the rules and nominated Jeb Bush for 2016. Did anyone see that? They don't expect Romney to win. The are trying to hold onto the power and it is slipping away. We can't back down. We have to turn from tyranny and still support those within ,who are fighting and reclaimn that which was have stolen. ( by the way if any one reads the Word of God and Daniel. The adversary, Satan, the Devil is one blind desperate foe right now.( can't stand to think about him either) Stay on your toes and don't get devoured like the GOP. It would be great if Virgil Goode would run with Doctor Paul.

If they're trying to win in 2016....

nominating ANOTHER Bush would be pretty much the last strategy anyone competent would ever consider.

I don't play, I commission the league.

I don't think so.


We are asking LP party for entrance into THEIR club. They have laws/by-laws that they must adhere to. Or would you trample their constituents the way that rnc did ours.

If LP can work something out that is beneficial to them, as well as us, then maybe we can combine our resources and grow our numbers.

At the very least, this would engage RP in debate against biden/ryan, which I would love to see.

I know that you are frustrated. I am beyond ticked. But we must look for a clear path.

Otherwise, enjoy the empty rhetoric between obama and romney and choose 1. They still have the numbers.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

how would RP in a VP slot do

how would RP in a VP slot do anything to get him in a debate on mainsleeze TV, or anywhere in the picture of a political debate? If the rules allow it, they would be foolish to not have GJ VP instead. I gave you a +1

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

Thanks for the +1 :-)

IMO, the media would be all of over it, considering his/our r3VOLution, what happened at Convention, etc. He would be on talk shows, and of course we could ask him to speak at various venues. His popularity alone would instigate debate with ryan/biden, even if only once.

I would like nothing more than RP pres, but what happened at Tampa was deplorable. I could not in good conscience ask the LP to do anything unjust, even for our advantage.

I have gone door to door, pumped out thousands of comparison sheets, etc. The area that I am in is democrat haven, Libertarians and some McCain republicans. It took a lot of work to swing voters over to Ron Paul. The dems absolutely refuse to switch party and thus were not able to vote RP in the primary, but they are able to vote across party line in the general. To convince them to look at Gary Johnson this late in the game would be fruitless.

RP is out of the game. Gary Johnson alone will not have the numbers to be considered credible. Combined, we can at least tilt this "contest" and wake more people up to truth.

I +1 you too :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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Great letter. I wrote one TOO.

Here is the DP link with my letter. Sent it to Dr. Paul's congressional email today.


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This makes sense to me at least

When you have spent your entire life educating people about liberty, this is a calling to big to miss.

I believe if Gary Johnson reaches out to Ron Paul AND we show him that the support is greater than ever and we are more energized than ever, then Ron Paul will reluctantly accept the offer and step up one last time - for liberty.

Yes there are some risks especially about the progress we have made in the GOP. Yes this will be used against all these good people who have worked so hard. However, we also now know that they will stop at nothing to limit our message and we just can't let any potential risk stop us from continuing spreading the message. Who knows it may turn out to be the best way to wake people up to the fact that the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Ron Paul has always said that it is about the message, it is about educating people. This opportunity is to big to miss Dr. Paul and even more importantly we all have to fulfill the role God gives us to our best ability. You are called one last time and God will give you the strength you need to again be the torch bearer for the message of love, peace and liberty.

Good luck Dr. Paul, your humility and reluctance to take this role show me that you are the chosen one.

This is politely asking.

Demands about the ticket, if this were to come to fruition, would be very disrespectful (let us not repeat rnc corruption).

There are laws/by-laws which should be worked out within the Libertarian Party.

It would be advantageous to both Gary Johnson *AND* Ron Paul and both of their supporters to consider this. Our combined numbers would grow and provide greater momentum to further our message.

Please, be respectful. Let us humbly ask LP, GJ and RP for their consideration.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I thought Gary Johnson

I thought Gary Johnson offered to step aside for Ron Paul. What happened to that offer? Why would Paul want to be the President of the Senate and go to funerals when a foreign leader dies? The Vice President is mainly a ceremonial office wouldn't make more sense to have the more experienced and well known candidate run for the Presidency instead of the Vice Presidency?

I believe he offered to step aside if Dr.Paul got the nomination

from the GOP so he wouldn't split the vote on him.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Its much harder to step aside at this point

It would be hard to keep Ron Paul's name in all 50 states if they switched out GJ for him. The fact GJ was elected, will remove the ballot completely in a lot of states if hes replaced by Ron Paul. Then Ron Paul would not have enough time to get back on those ballots.

However they can change the VP without too much of a hassle.

Also i never heard him say he'd step aside myself, but i always thought if Ron Paul because the nominee, i would respect GJ a lot more if he THEN stepped aside and release the LP for Ron Pauls support.

I think if I searched the DP

I think if I searched the DP archives I could find where I was told Johnson had offered to step aside for Paul.

Since the VP candidates name also appears on the ballot I'm not sure why its easier to change 1 than the other. I understand I'm in the minority here but to me this doesn't seem like the best option for the Liberty movement or even for the Libertarian Party, instead it seems to be an attempt to give a boost to the Johnson campaign.

If Paul/Johnson wants to really compete it has to be

RON PAUL/Gary Johnson 2012

Ron Paul has the NAME Recognition nation wide, Gary Johnson does not have it.

Pure and Simple.

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