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Wasting Your Vote on the Lesser of Two Evils

Is there really a choice in the 2012 Presidential Election? We have to choose between a socialist, Obama, and a socialist, Romney. When I was in school, it was taught that communism was evil (communism is just an extreme of socialism). Some would say we have to choose the lesser of two evils when we vote, but let’s think about that. In order to pick the less of something, you have to have something that is substantially “less”. Here are some of the issues: government controlled health care, gun control, abortion, gay marriage, bailouts, corruption, NDAA supporter, war, the Federal Reserve, to name a few. A very important question is, where do these “candidates” differ?

I want to address the premise that we have to “vote for the lesser of two evils” in the first place. The people of this country have somehow been hoodwinked on this concept. Every four years, we are somehow made to believe that we “must” vote for a horrible candidate because the other guy is even worse. Common sense tells us, voting for the “lesser” of two evils is still voting for evil! If that doesn’t start getting you to think, how about what God says in the Bible in 1 Thessalonians 5:22 – Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Both candidates not only support government health care, they both “wrote it”, hence, “Obamacare” or “Romneycare”. It is unbelievable that so many people have accepted socialized medicine. A whole generation was fooled with Medicare. In the end, do you really think the government is going to “take care of you”? Well, in a sense they are because Obamacare contains death panels. And don’t think for a moment that Romney would change that.

Obama wants to disarm the American people – we already know that (UN Small Arms Treaty). As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney signed an assault weapons ban. Under either one of these two “candidates”, your right to bear arms is in jeopardy.

On two “social” issues, abortion and gay marriage, Obama and Romney are no different. Regarding bailouts, Romney took a 10 million dollar bailout and “saved” Bain Capital because of it. And the media tries to get us to think that Romney is a great businessman. Is this truly how someone should run a business? We already know that Obama supports bailouts – just think GM. The National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA for short, substantially reduced our liberties. We already know that Obama signed it. During the Republican Party debate in South Carolina, Mitt Romney said that he would sign the NDAA. Both support the Patriot Act. Again, there is no difference between the “candidates”.

The Federal Reserve is a secretive, privately owned entity in partnership with the Federal Government. They print our money and charge us interest. They print this money out of thin air, without any backing (if we do that on our printers at home they call it counterfeiting). Also, they loan out money through the fraudulent Fractional Reserve Banking System. Both Romney and Obama fully support the Federal Reserve and believe that the president should not question the “independence” of the Federal Reserve. Both Romney and Obama oppose a full audit on the Federal Reserve. Maybe both want to protect their biggest financial backers, the bankers.

Remember the song from the 1960’s, Fortunate Son, by Creedence Clearwater Revival? Google the lyrics and read them and think about what they say. They will draft OUR sons and daughters - we are not millionaires or politicians, unlike Romney or Obama, who can pay or make deals for their children to escape being recruited into required military service. So OUR children will be conscripted to fight their foreign wars. That’s what it all comes down to – money and power. Their children will not be used as disposable pawns. Henry Kissinger, who is infamously known for referring to military men as “dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy”, has just been announced as a foreign policy advisor to Mitt Romney. Both Romney and Obama will attack Iran and they will use OUR children to do it. Think about why and remember the United States of America killed many Iraqi and Afghan people and many American soldiers died. Why? Did Iraq or Afghanistan attack our country?

Everyone knows (or should by now unless you are in a coma or something) how corrupt the Obama administration is. What about Romney? Did he honestly get the GOP nomination? How many people do you know genuinely support him? There are numerous incidences of fraud, cheating, and corruption during the primaries and caucuses across this nation. Don’t take my word for it, Google it! Even at the Republican National Convention the rules were changed before the vote was even cast. Part of the rules change was how many states a candidate needs to carry, increasing the number of states from five to eight, even though one of the candidates besides Romney already had the five required states before the vote. (How convenient for the Republican Establishment and the Romney campaign to eliminate any other candidate from being nominated by changing the “rules” of the election at the Convention.) During the vote, the teleprompter displays the words or “script” of what the chairman reads. The outrageous thing was that the teleprompter had the results for a rules change vote before the vote was cast! And further, the chairman called the vote in favor of the rules change even though the voice vote did not corroborate what was actually voiced. What amazing blatant dishonesty and corruption proving that the Convention is just ceremonial and the will of the American people is rendered irrelevant. In addition, Google what happened to Maine’s delegates at the Convention. What it all boils down to is that the Republican Party Establishment picked Romney for us time and time again with the help of a controlled and complacent media. And somehow we are to believe that a Romney administration will be more honest than Obama’s! It’s just “politics” as usual, isn’t it? There is no “change” we can believe in! Are you mad yet? You ought to be!

And can you really trust a single word that comes out of Romney’s mouth? He would probably win the award for the biggest flip-flopper that there is if there were such a contest. He even flip-flops his stance on an issue in the same day. He is worse than a typical politician. He is a LIAR! He doesn’t stand for anything. And of course Obama’s record speaks for itself. Did he even keep one of his campaign promises?

So, hopefully I have demonstrated that there is no difference in the “candidates” who were chosen for us by the “bosses” of the two party system. These two “candidates” are both socialists who are enemies of freedom. Mitt Romney is just a carbon copy of Barack Obama which means there is no “choice” in this election! I propose the American people vote their conscience and protest this madness and write in a candidate to prove to the powers that be that they will insult our intelligence no longer. For the most part, we don’t have an election system anymore, at least not on the Federal level. So why continue to play the game? If someone wanted to play Monopoly with you and you knew that they wanted to be the bank and cheat while doing it, would you agree to or even want to play? What would be the point? Therefore, what is the point in voting for either major political party’s “candidate”? This “game” is no different. And don’t tell me if we write in a candidate then we “wasted our vote”. The Establishment of the Republican Party gave us a weak candidate on purpose. Why? Get away from your TV long enough to ponder that one. The only “wasted” vote is one that goes against our conscience, common sense, and what is right. Shame on you if you fall for this mentality yet one more time! There is a saying attributed to Einstein that says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I used to wonder how in the world the Germans could have voted for Hitler. A century from now people will be wondering how Americans could have been so ignorant and voted for socialism (communism). Once enlightened, protest is our only option other than revolution. What would the American colonists have done?

If you can’t stomach writing in Ron Paul, who is founding father material and believes in the Constitution and a free market, who has a consistent voting record for liberty, small government, believes in a non-interventionist foreign policy, and wants to audit and reform our financial system, and who is really the best and honest candidate we have had in our life times, then vote for Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny or Aunt Clara or even yourself. It would be a better vote than one for evil.

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How are both of them not going to win


I don't understand your post

Apparently others do, would be nice for you or someone to explain.

I'm not voting...

I'm not voting, I have lost faith. I don't see that voting changes anything because if it did the government would make it illegal or steal your vote (like they did). When do we admit that the only change will not come thru politics or voting.It will come at a very high price. We have been cheated out of the election and the only thing we have to show for it are a few crumbs here and there. Yes we had a good fight and we can all stand around patting each other on the backs. But coming in a distant second doesn't go very far. Watching a train wreck in slow motion and not being able to do anything about it is where this country is going. I am putting my efforts into getting off the grid as much as possible. I can't waste anymore of my time or a dime more of my money into politics. Einstein was right about his definition of insanity.


Youve gotta wonder . . .

what message would be sent to those who pull the strings above the political circus if more than 90% of Americans refused to vote in the national elections. Sadly, the entire process is a sham now, a circus. Its not 'your government'. Your vote is about as relevant as the 'student council' in a jr high school - where the teachers and principal 'guide' the kids on what they are actually allowed to do by their elders. Nothing important.

Ron Paul even alluded to it in the Leno interview - that there's only the 'appearance' of democracy in the system.

There's a reason that dictatorships often require their citizens to 'vote'. Have you ever wondered why they do that ?

People are easier to control if they believe their rulers & the ruling system are legitimate.

P.S. - Lew Rockwell changed my views on 'voting'

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Please Vote To Send A Message

Instead of not voting, I urge you to vote for Gary Johnson. In the offhand slight chance that the votes are actually counted, your vote for GJ sends a very powerful rebuke against the GOP. Not voting does not send any message at all, since most people don't vote.

I agree with your sentiments though. Good luck on getting off the grid, and you can also think about investing in some gold/silver as well before the prices jump back up again ;)

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They won't hear you

GJ is a red herring.

Deliver a message personally to make sure they get it http://www.dailypaul.com/253034/how-to-deliver-the-gop-your-...

Who said Gary Johnson

I am looking at Virgil Goode.


That's really going to help elected Ron paul Republicans. NOT!

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Also a good Non-Romney choice

But I thought Constitution Party candidate is only on the ballot in like half a dozen states..?

Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof

I support that motion. That's

I support that motion. That's the easiest way to show that the duopoly is untenable. President Johnson is sure to bring Dr. Paul as a senior or even chief advisor.

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Sorry Granger, I disagree.

Sorry Granger, I disagree.

I am delivering the message personally. I am a GOP Precinct Delegate.

But I am only a Precinct Delegate to *change* the GOP, not *support* the GOP.

Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof

Which GOP?

You don't support the Ron Paul RepubliCANs?

No one wanted Robne biut the 10 fat cats who forced Robme on us becasue they want Obama another 4 years to achieve their goal of desmantling the GOP to empower the Democratic Party to the level of the Republic Of Communist China's Communist Party.

GJ isn't running to win, but to get 15% so he can rob tax payers to pay for his red herring campaign.

It's like the Democratic Party is a brick of lead designed to sink us economically, where the GOP is a brick of glod they covered in feces so we won't touch it.

Do you have monthly meetings on your prescint committee? Did you sign loyalty oaths?

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Ron Paul Republicans Are Voting Gary Johnson

Of course I support Ron Paul Republicans. And, all the Ron Paul Republicans I know are all voting for Gary Johnson, so it's all good :)

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It's not "all good".

What mnay Ron paul Republicans FAIL to understand is that WE Ron paul Republicans have many people elected in the GOP, and just because we don't like, agree, appreciate Robme, HE IS the only viable oppostiton to the worse president in American history.

Let's say we have 10 Democrats and 10 Republicans.

The 10 Democrats don't all like Obama, but being he is the incumbant, they will vote for him because they DON'T want a Republican seated and that especially includes the constitutional wacko wing.

The 10 Republicans are divided, as those who are constitutional wackos, don't like the front man forced on them, so they rebel to "send a message", and 1 of them votes for GJ.

Who will win the election?

What happenes to the constitutional wackos?

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Yeah, It's All Good

After what we just went through in 2012 primaries, and the obvious corruption and fraud from the GOP, I see both parties as something to fight against.

Some will fight the GOP from the inside, but will support them in the meantime hoping they will change.

I won't. I will fight the GOP from the inside, and will withhold my support for the GOP until they change.

I am strongly convinced it is the right way forward, and I'm certain most Ron Paul Republicans will do the same.

So yeah, it's all good, we can agree to disagree!

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Top 10 Post on the Daily Paul

Long Hair - thank you for taking the time to write this :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Your're welcome!

I have to admit I was very MAD after finding out what happened at the Republican Convention.

Really, where's the peoples recourse? There is no legitimate redress of grievances as far as the election process goes (or anything in the government, for that matter).

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

either there are many gop trolls on here

or many folks are still thinking that voting their conscience will somehow keep romney form winning.
gop blowback is the only way to win the war within the gop. The war that many of you are missing.
If you vote GJ, or write in RP it'll make you feel all warm and fuzzy. Meanwhile romney wins and noone even knows who you voted for.

vote obama or romney will win.

this whole "romney isnt gonna win" meme needs to stop. It is a Sun Tzu tactic from gop folks wanting romney to win so they tell you to vote GJ or write in RP because they know what you DONT. That is, they dont need our vote for romney to win anyway.
meanwhile romney wins and you're all standing around going what just happened - derrrrrrrr!!!
you're in a gop war, start acting like it.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

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Voting Obama Is A Tall Order

I'm urging people to vote for Johnson, and I'm anything but a GOP troll ;)

A vote for GJ is a vote denied to Romney from a conservative, liberty minded American. That sends an incredibly powerful message to the GOP.

It is going to be a tough battle for you to fight, to try to convince Paul supporters to vote for Obama. Although, I applaud the energy and agree with the sentiments that we need Romney to lose.

But I think we can accomplish a Romney loss without inflating Obama numbers with our votes, just by all voting for Johnson.

Statistically, there are more registered Democrats than Republicans in America. So Republicans need all the votes they can get, and not have the vote fractured. So just by fracturing the conservative vote, as well as pulling in Independents to GJ, should certainly be good enough to thwart a Romney win. And, it positions the Liberty Movement very well in 2014 and 2016.

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Ill probably need an airsickness bag

when I pull the lever for him.
However I dont just want romney to lose. I want the gop to lose by a landslide and have it be such a huge difference and lopsided win that the gop "goes back to the drawing board".
THAT MIGHT make them change. THEN we insert Tom Woods, Judge Nap, RP again, etc.
without romney losing big time, we're just spittin in the wind.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

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Big Romney Loss = Powerful Message To GOP

Agreed. The bigger the margin of loss for Romney, the bigger the message we have sent to the corrupt, fraudulent GOP establishment.

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Vote for GJ

As you walk in the voting booth on Nov. 6, consider whether would you like to suffer through 4 years of agony with BO, or 8 years of Romney. Then vote for Gary Johnson with the hope that we can sort it out in 2016 with Rand Paul. May be the senior Paul will be still around to add spice.

Rand Paul is genuine but also practical. Don't go dumping on him please. He is very sincere.

I totally disagree.

Maybe you should re-read the article. I think you missed the point.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

There are a few ways at looking at your vote

If you want to view your vote as ideological and a reflection of your own beliefs, you have to vote your conscience. I think that any vote of conscience would have to be for Gary Johnson. In doing so we can hope that the republicans can have a way to count up the votes they lost by their attempt to purge liberty-minded individuals from their party by force.

There is a practical way of viewing your vote as well. You have to view it as means to an end. The worst case scenario for liberty-minded individuals is that Romney is elected. The primary reason this is bad is because it means we have to wait until 2020 before we can try to get liberty-minded Republican nominee. Secondly it's bad politically because the Republican party has quasi-adopted some of the liberty ideas as a part of their platform, and after Romney inevitably fails (which he will because his methodology is fundamentally flawed) some of our ideas will be tied to a loser. While we all know Romney will take no action on those ideas, when he fails the general public will only see that it was a part of his platform and his platform failed and assume the entire platform is bad. We can't allow that to happen when many of our ideas are finally getting the support they deserve. Thirdly if Romney is elected, the Republican establishment will believe that the Liberty Movement just fell in line and voted for their man after they gave us no other choice. We can't let that happen.

Our main goal of this election has to be to prevent the election of Mitt Romney. If you live in a blue state and Obama will likely win anyway, vote for Gary Johnson. If it looks like Obama's polling far enough ahead at election time to win, vote for Gary Johnson. But if it looks like Romney has a legitimate chance of winning, we have to vote for Obama. It's our only choice in preventing an 8 year timeout in the liberty movement. In reality we all know that their will be no noticeable difference between an Obama administration and a Romney administration, but there will be a huge difference in our momentum if we have to wait 8 years instead of 4 years.

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Teach The GOP Blowback

The corruption and fraud of the GOP in 2012 is breathtaking. The only recourse we have is to all vote for Gary Johnson, and teach the GOP the meaning of the term blowback.

Then we can figure out what to do in 2014 and 2016.

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In this election cycle....the

In this election cycle....the two parties do not offer a "lesser of two evils". They are equally evil. The only candidate on the politcal stage who is worthy of consideration for his policies is Gary Johnson...and he is running. Ron Paul is NOT running.


Lesser of 3 evils is so much better than lesser of 2 evils?

Don't you mean the 'least' of

Don't you mean the 'least' of three evils? In what way does Gary Johnson not align himself with Ron Paul 's political policies and platform that makes you consider him an equally "evil" choice???


you people don't read or what?

Where does he not align himself with ron paul? i don't remember ron ever being for price fixing, for fed, for wars, and for legalizing drugs only if it passes gary's cost-benefit analysis. There are many more issues, but not that you would read these either, it has all been said many times here.

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Liberty is Evil?

I respectfully suggest that a vote for Gary Johnson is not a vote for evil. Rather, he shares probably 92.4% alignment with Ron Paul on various topics and policy issues - and hopefully you all don't think Ron Paul is evil :) I urge everyone not to get too bogged down on particular issues, and concentrate on seeing the forest through the trees.

Most importantly, our vote for Gary Johnson sends a powerful message to the GOP, and positions the Liberty Movement for a strong 2014 and 2016 showing. I believe nothing else we can do in 2012 would make as big an impact, or set us up in 2014 and beyond, like all voting for Gary Johnson.

I'm a Paul supporter through and through, and Johnson was not even on my radar until Romney got the GOP nomination. But now, voting for Johnson is the best shot we have at publicly and visibly rebuking the GOP for what they did to us in 2012.

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