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Is it time for Gary Johnson supporters to start their own forum?

This forum is being hi-jacked by another campaign. I don't mind a post once in a while about GJ, but today there's more posts about Gary Johnson than about Ron Paul or even the issues that hold us all together, such as ending the Fed, ending aggressive foreign policy, sanctity of life, ending vote fraud, exposing what the GOP did to our campaign, etc., etc. I understand that some of RP's supporters have decided to back GJ and I respect their choice. I think they should all get to work starting a DailyJohnson forum rather than using DailyPaul to promote their candidate. Please respect the fact that this is a RON PAUL forum...most of us are here to discuss issues that are the most important to us, issues on which GJ differs with us. If this situation continues, I'm afraid this forum will die. I don't come here to read about GJ and if that's all that's being discussed, I and many others will just start avoiding DailyPaul. I wish the mods would step in and do something about this.

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Yes, they should!

But I still would welcome all discussion about anything pertinent tha will advance the cause of liberty, whether it's about GJ, Rand, Obama, etc.... no topic should be banned.

If you don't like the post, down vote it.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

I hope they do. This is THE DAILY PAUL.

I hope they do. This is THE DAILY PAUL.

And they have only weeks to create a REVOLUTION MOVEMENT.

Go out and ask people at random:

Will you vote for Gary Johnson?

I GUARANTEE: They will look at you really funny.

As in: Hmmmm? Who????

Too Late.

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012

Wisdom Strategies

HAHAHA

You posted this same comment in another thread there uh broken record. Also why not instead of being divisive and pushing people away; we unite and take down the establishment? So I will reply again. People didn't know who Ron Paul was until people started to talk about him. People didn't know about him because of all the wonder coverage he got from the MSM. So why is Gary Johnson so different? Is it because your lazy? I ask people all the time if they know who Gary Johnson is and about a good 80% say yes they know who he is. So quit your bitching and do something even it is just exposing the fraud of both the Democrats and Republicans; no one here is forcing you to vote for Gary Johnson.

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our Liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

There IS no Ron Paul campaign any further in this election.

Don't you get that?

A few of us want to make a difference NOW - not just wait till 2016.

so?

you're not helping Gary Johnson by posting that.

I'm voting for him. But you're not helping.

It should be obvious even to a simpleton that this is The Daily Paul, not the The Daily Paul Campaign.

conclusion? there is no reason for your post to live.

made only because of your ego.

Agreed

All I had to read was the title (but I read the rest). This is the Daily Paul. I joined a few months ago because Ron Paul supporters reached me and I came here to talk about Dr. Paul and what he supports.

I'm not anti-Johnson, but this isn't a website about him or his campaign. I much prefer news (re)posts and general Liberty talk. Maybe make a Gary Johnson forum or something? IDK but it seems like anything that is off-topic should go in the off-topic area.

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The Mods are endorsing this GJ lovefest and it's so annoying

It fills up the front page with just begging and whining.

"Give us money--give us your blind trust"

"Why can't we get along (aka mind control and hijack you into a big wall named GJ)?"

"Why you should support GJ (aka, give up Paul and praise our new cult leader)?"

All the groveling and Paul bashing makes me sick, but since a powerful minority Libertarian Party members (ie, Kokesh) have infiltrated the rEVOLution we can't stay remotely on topic.

We might as well just all start voting for Romney now, he claims he wants to lower taxes and nd/audit the fed too. At least Romney is rich.

If any other so called 'leader' was being as aggressively promoted on this site, they would probably be banned and the posts locked/deleted. It's completely ridiculous.

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lol

so true, and thanks for the dose of sanity

Johnson Is Rich Too

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

If they could get a lot of people to post at a Daily Johnson

they would start a new site. But instead they feel the need to hijack this one because it would be mighty quiet at his own site. The problem is, Johnson has to glom on to Paul sites or he would get no talk at all. Johnson simply doesn't have the record Paul has. He can't get the same support and reaction as Paul because he is unknown, untrusted, doesn't have the same experience or wherewithal that Paul has proven to have.

This isn't a slam on Johnson. He could be perfectly good. I'm just stating an obvious. Johnson people will continue to post here because they can't garner enough interest on their own blog. And that's the long and the short of it. Good news for Johnson supporters tho. Michael seems to be sympathetic to their plight. So they are here to stay and their posts will continue to get front page. Like it or not it's the current state of affairs

I chose to avoid the Daily Paul for a while.

I didn't come all the way from Australia to read about Gary Johnson.

I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.

And how did you arrive at the

And how did you arrive at the Daily Paul... by boat?

Because if he didn't use a boat he's not from the other side of

the world, right?

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Gary Johnson is a poor

Gary Johnson is a poor candidate so they have to come here and beg us for votes. They need to go away.

I had a thought.

If you are a Gary Johnson hater, don't read the posts about him. (And maybe don't make new posts about him?)
If you are still supporting Ron Paul, a candidate that is no longer a candidate, carry on. Face reality. He is not running for ANY OFFICE!! He is retiring. Let the man retire!
Find candidates you can support and vote for them.
Stop attacking people that do support Gary Johnson.
Run out and give granger a big high five as she admits she is going to vote for Willard. Now there is a shining example of a "true" Ron Paul supporter!
I am pretty sure Ron would rather you vote for Gary Johnson over Willard.
I love the attacks on Gary for believing that congress should declare war before we enter into military action, or issue a letter of marque and reprisal. There are so many here that sing the voice of liberty only to shut others down because they might voice a different opinion. Shame on all of you that think only your opinion is the right one. (how very libertarian of you.)

Formerly rprevolutionist

The problem is...

...Johnson haters don't want to have to make a choice not to read Johnson post. They'd prefer to have a law that prohibits pro-Johnson post. They are Johnson Prohibitionist. It's no wonder they don't like the guy. Live Free!!!

RP supporters who object to being

hanarangued by trolls for a CFR stooge are "haters"??? Typical smear tactic. Why not start a GJ forum?

Of course you don't hate...

...you just want supporters for a "CFR stooge" to get the hell out of the DP. I know I feel loved! lol

? I don't give a crap

one way or another about CFR stooge Johnson. I am not interested enough in him to hate him. Why his supporters are coming here and annoying Paul supporters instead of running their own site dedicated to their CFR stooge speaks volumes for the level of his "support". "Calling for unity" and smearing people who disagree with the positions of a politician and refusing to support him as "haters" is pure commie-speak. Saul Alinsky called and said for you to send his book back.

Local Liberty Candidates

We need to stop discussing the Presidential Race and focus on the many Liberty Candidates who are on the ballot in 2012 and have a real chance of winning. YAL is supporting a few. LPAC and LibertyCandidate.com is another good source.

GJ does not have a chance as winning in November. Lets put our efforts to good use. Find out who are the liberty candidates in your area or other ones to support.

Justin Amash was redistricted into a district that is less Republican. Bills and Massie and likely others have been endorsed by Paul.

It's time to put more Liberty Supporters on Capitol Hill and in your State House.

That's because the elections

That's because the elections are in 2 months silly

I don't see what the big deal is, as Gary Johnson is leaps and bounds closer to "the issues that hold us together" than Obamney will ever be.

Plus to be fair, people asked GJ supporters to refrain from pubbing him until after the RNC, myself included.

Now that the RNC is over, and RP does not have the nomination - whats the problem? We can't post about the libertarian candidate on a liberty website?

Are we going to be like the RNC and pretend like we have "big tent" yet want to kick people out who we don't 100% agree with?

what is the Libertarian philosophy

I thought it was something like you have the right to do as you please unless you inhibit someoneelses right to do the same. In short, the rejection of force. Now you are coming onto a site dedicated to an appreciation of the philosophy of Ron Paul, thus the name. Now you insist that you have the right to FORCE us to listen to you promote your candidate. We come to this site by free association, another tenet of libertarianism. You are violating our right to free association. Of course you have the right to say what you want, but if you really believed the philosophy of liberty you would leave us alone and post with likeminded slaves.

Phill, That's laying it on

Phill,

That's laying it on pretty darn thick. Thanks for one of the most bizarre rants in recent memory.

yeah probably so

I was drinking whiskey and feeling pretty ornery. But I still contend that GJ supporters are being rude by constantly promoting him on this site. That doesn't mean they don't have a right to do it, it's just that there is a time and place for everything.

sigh

"you have the right to do as you please unless you inhibit someoneelses right to do the same"

How exactly is me posting about a candidate... preventing YOU from posting about a candidate?


"Now you insist that you have the right to FORCE us to listen to you promote your candidate"

Nobody forced you to do anything, you chose to click the thread and read it.

Why would they waste their time and lack of talent?

It's obvious that they don't know how to rally a cause for gj and that they don't know how to create a blog for him.
The good news is that after November they'll be no reason whatsoever to bring his name up again - unless to be annoying.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Because we are not Johnson

Because we are not Johnson supporters as a man.. we are also not Ron Paul supporters. Even though I worked my ass for for Paul and donated thousands.. I don't need leader Paul to tell me what to do.

We support the message, not the man.

No!

Two months, people. Two months.

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In my book, here's what I have for Gary Johnson supporters

In my book, here's what I have for Gary Johnson supporters :

they are free to express their support for Gary Johnson over here.

I, however, would KINDLY ask them to RESPECTFULLY accept that some Ron Paul supporters STILL don't see Gary "as obvious a choice as" Ron, and thus prefer to spend their time and energy to either continue support and push Ron Paul forward, or, as I do, prefer to focus ON OUR VALUES, IDEAS, AND PRINCIPLES IN SUCH DIRE NEED TO SPREAD SOME MORE !

IMO, we have AN AWFUL LOT OF EDUCATION- / WAKE UP CALL- / REALITY CHECK- WORK left to do !

Bear with me. & Peace,

For Liberty.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius