The Ron Paul picture is gone...
Submitted by Katniss Everdeen on Wed, 09/05/2012 - 22:07I know that the Daily Paul is moving past focusing on Ron Paul's 2012 campaign, but did the Ron Paul picture on the right of the DP really have to get taken down? After all, our movement and this website IS still inspired by the good doctor even if it's no longer mainly about getting him elected. And that's all the picture said: "The Daily Paul is inspired by Ron Paul". Now there is nothing about him, not even a smaller picture. Does anyone else feel the same way?
Nystrom Update: Please see my response in this comment, below. Thank you.
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LOL. "Daily silent
LOL. "Daily silent treatment." That reminded me of Boehner ignoring the roaring calls of "point of order" at the GOP convention. Heeeey, but the GOP is a private club and it can do what it wants to.
USA USA USA.
That'll shut us up. ;-)
I sure am
Is anyone 'home' ?
Oh, I sure am.
And home doesn't feel quite safe if you ask me.
My name's pronounced like "see real". Its root is "Lord".
"The demand of a great people is always at the scale of its most serious misfortunes." --De Gaulle
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I really do not mind that the picture of RP has been removed.
Those of us who have been here for a long time know the origins of this site. The liberty movement has to stand on it's own now. New people who come to the site will still get an education that will help set them on the right path. Ron Paul championed the call to responsible thought and action regarding the political process. It's up to us now. Many new liberty candidates will come forward and I hope that they will be highlighted and encouraged on this site. Life goes on.
~Your perception becomes your reality~
I'm sorry Ron Paul's picture is gone.
The immediate objective may have changed, but not our ultimate goals, nicely summed up by what Ron Paul has stood for all these years: re sound monetary policy, the national debt, war, the Constitution, and individual LIBERTY. He's not just a Congressman or presidential candidate. He's an icon: "A person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something..." I think it diminishes the site to have his picture not there. (I didn't realize it at first because Ron Paul's face is prominently featured in the SilverCircle ad, e.g., within my vision right now as I'm typing here.) Whatever paths we choose from here, we are all Ron Paul now. http://i.imgur.com/nSeHz.jpg
Life goes on
Freedom Forever!
Ron Paul for Freedom!
Its symbolic!
But all those 'liberty candidates'
are running in the evil GOP. They are automatically compromised, also Rand Paul is the most evil person on Earth. We should stick it to the GOP/Rand and not vote for them and only vote for purer than thou Gary Johnson.
Note, I am being sarcastic. Basically, trying to show you what all the comments are that are spawning this counter backlash to this crud.
Also, read the comment below on inspiration. What is preventing this from becoming LP Redstate (The comment I just made is what LP Redstate is)
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May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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Scots still honor William Wallace
but I am sure those guys are just stuck in the past losers like us who want Ron's 'inspired by' picture on the front page.
If the DP is no longer inspired by Dr Paul, then what is it inspired by? Libertarian Redstate? Sorry, Ron's integrity extended to places like the old Daily Paul in terms of showing people civility and respect because the spirit of the Daily Paul was inspired by Ron Paul. The root word of inspired is spirit. If we are no longer all spiritual brothers and sisters following the same inspiration then to me, there can be no gain for us 'Ron Paul types' on the Daily Paul. There is no use coordinating because we will always have people who forum slide or railroad discussion on things they do not like. If for instance, people are talking about their gains in the GOP, your vulture LP types will come in and call them all traitors. In the end, that is what will and is beginning to happen.
It is no coincidence since the bringing in of Johnson and kicking out of Paul that rhetoric on the Daily PAuL has become so acrimonious.
May the LORD bless you and keep you
May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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William Wallace never sold out the Scots...
...nor did he ever seek Longshanks' favor, so that himself, his son, or his chieftains might gain wealth and estates, nor did he offer his own son into Longshanks' service, nor did he flee the field of battle like a coward at the critical moment.
Ron Paul, on the other hand...
Sadly, I think
you are correct. I too have taken notice of the Gary Johnson movement becoming ever bold and increasing around here (for months now) and my instinct tells me it is more than just people that want to get Gary Johnson elected...I think it is more nefarious than that. Gary Johnson has a snowballs chance in heck of getting elected, so why push him so hard in everyone's face when Ron Paul would have had a much better chance than him had all those pushing for Johnson so early not sought to divide and conquer the movement.
Are people really that gullible to believe that Gary Johnson entered into the race not because he thought Ron Paul wasn't going to, but to serve as competition to him?...apparently so... It seems he has succeeded in that goal anyway...
Thanks Denise B,
Remember, in the world's eyes, Ron Paul has attained recognition as a libety leader and a very hard to find "honest" man who cares about the people...many countries even have their own RP groups/meetups, etc. Show them a photo of Ron Paul next to a photo of Gary Johnson and Dr. Paul's many long years of hard work and resulting recognition is obvious. Other people living in European and even African countries want their liberties back and have been looking to the Ron Paul movement and its economic and peaceful portions especially to give them hope and some sort of guidance.
To make changes and get this country (possibly others) out of this destructive quagmire, there must be impact and the people need to be willing to make sacrifices. Sorry, it is difficult to see Johnson as a man of impact and that leaves doubt in our minds, or mine anyway.
I am much more cynical
about CFR Johnson and his crew. Well whatever. I will be a dumbass and still support Ron no matter what. Someone called for multiple threads. I made one here.
http://www.dailypaul.com/253857/are-ron-paul-supporters-even...
Please we need a debate about this. Maybe the Daily Paul and the Ron Paul people have just grown apart after all these years. People and things change. Lets talk about how to do this constructively.
May the LORD bless you and keep you
May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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a principled choice is NEVER a "dumbass"-ed one!
LOL.o)
would you like more gravy, BurningSiriusΩ™? .o)
I shall be writing in Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul, PERIOD, precisely because I know it will not 'count!'
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2710360
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2642090
http://www.dailypaul.com/252471/quantify-the-movement-the-ca...
http://www.dailypaul.com/252471/quantify-the-movement-the-ca...
Roger-'I actually have a picture of Nixon tattooed on my back! No dude, like really, really!'-Stone's shadow play in Gary Johnson's campaign, is FAR worse than Benton and Olson hovering about RP2012 could ever signify.
http://www.dailypaul.com/253106#comment-2718174
But even on a purely practical, reale-politik level, there is literally zero difference between voting FOR Gary, or writing-in "Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul" @ this juncture: it will only go toward by what margin either of the two NWO puppets will 'win' by.
If one is awake and already accepts the fact that Mutt WRONGney has always been a 'ringer' in the fixed 2012 (s)election; the POTUS (s)election results are completely meaningless unless Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul becomes the duly elected President of these United States of America. PERIOD!
Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM
"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul
I too do not
understand why it was necessary to remove Dr. Paul's picture and I wish it would be put back where it belongs. I understand that he is no longer running for office, but why should that matter at all? He still remains, and I am sure will continue to remain for years to come, a source of inspiration and a model of what a real representative of the people should look like. I mean, he's not dead yet! I am sure that, even if he decides never to run for office again, he will continue to speak out and be a voice for liberty in whatever way he can...that is who is he and what he's always done.
I have been to many websites that have pictures of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as part of their banners, even though those great men have been out of the political arena for centuries! Why should it be any different in reference to Ron Paul? He too started a revolution that hopefully one day will result in the freedom of a nation. Taking his picture down almost seems like conceding defeat...anyone that comes to this website and would be offended by his picture there, really should keep on moving anyway because those types typically are not open to the idea of liberty...at least in my experience anyway.
I think Ron Paul's impact on
I think Ron Paul's impact on American history will be huge...not just for the immediate years to come. I'm thinking that whomever removed Dr. Paul's picture may regret that decision down the road.....even if perhaps revenue was needed or just a symbol of moving on. Heaven help us if we forget what these past 5 years meant just to symbolize a move "Forward."
Please Restore the Ron Paul Photo!
The site looks mighty empty without it.
Folks still want to know what Ron Paul is doing, saying, and writing. He will still be in Congress for the next three months. After that, and some time for rest, I expect and hope he will resume public speaking and writing. I hope he'll keep writing "Texas Straight Talk," have it syndicated nationally, and that DailyPaul.com will run it every week.
And I hope that DailyPaul.com will continue being the great forum for news and commentary that it has been in the past.
The last two months have been rough for everyone. But it's time to pick ourselves up and keep on truckin'. Especially in foreign policy, where so many lives are at stake, we have to keep the pressure on both presidential and congressional candidates in every which way we can: letters to editors, op-ed pieces, debates, sharp questions at candidates' town-hall meetings, and protests. DailyPaul.com can be a leader in all of this.
Mary Meehan
Ron Paul's example, in every
Ron Paul's example, in every way that counts, is the gold standard for liberty. If Ron Paul's picture has to be removed, much to my chagrin, replace it with a nugget of gold.
Again I say, I think Michael is angry, disillusioned and hurt.
I think it was a decision made while certain emotions (which we all have) were controlling his actions.
I sure remember how I felt on that Tuesday in Tampa when the RNC/GOP so blatantly cheated him out of his rightful chance at a nomination -and they WOULDN'T EVEN MENTION HIS NAME.
I think the pic will return when some time to heal has gone by.
At least that is my hope.
The bigger concern is to KEEP THIS SITE GOING!!!
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Won't be visiting this site anymore
I hope this site drops way down on google ranking and better ones replace it. This site has become the Daily Johnson and it's become an eyesore to read. But you can bet the Johnson lovers will flock to that one because they have no solid support. What's more is the final nail in the coffin by removing RP's picture and changing it to "P AU L". How about being upfront and just say it's PAUL. This site wouldn't exist without RP. Michael can do whatever the hell he wants with his site, but I won't stand for it anymore. Johnson is a pandering, clueless interventionist and I will never support him. He is a FRAUD with a low IQ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-1ktig7Pwg
BYE BYE DAILY JOHNSON
NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS THREAD AND MORE.
i WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE BECOME PROACTIVE ABOUT THIS DISTURBING SITUATION AND EDUCATE EVERYONE ABOUT THIS TRAVESTY BY COMMENTING ON THIS THREAD UNTIL THE PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, AND...TO CREATE NEW THREADS WITH LINKS TO THIS THREAD. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT REMOVING AN ICONIC IMAGE DAMAGES THE MOVEMENT OF LIBERTY. I LEARNED ABOUT SOUND MONEY AND LIBERTY FROM RON PAUL. WHEN I WATCH RON PAUL IN HIS DEBATES I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. HE IS MY IDOL BUT HE DEMANDS ME TO NOT LOOK AT HIM AS AN IDOL. HE DEMANDS US TO PRACTICE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES, WHICH IS WHAT I AM DOING. NOW, THE OWNER OF THIS WEBSITE HAS LIBERTY AS WELL. THIS IS HIS PROPERTY, BUT WE CAN RESPECTFULLY ENGAGE HIM TO RETHINK HIS DECISION. PEACE.
Let's Fight the Good Fight
". . removing an iconic image damages the movement of liberty"
Yes it does - it dilutes it.
Debbie
They should change the site name.
It's disrespectful to remove his picture.
Hey Mods, I think there might
Hey Mods, I think there might be a Revolution here if you don't put back Ron Paul's picture.
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Not all mods are of one mind, with the same opinion. This notion must be dispelled.
This is Michael's site. However, I also deeply desire for the picture to be brought back. I do think of Dr. Paul as our Sensei, the guiding light and Grand Master that lead most of us out of the storm, into this shelter. This is my 5th year.
Respect ≈)
≈
Photo of the Master
The Master's photo will be hung farthest from the front door, or on the front wall of the dojo. If there are more than two photos, the Master's photo will be at the center, and a few inches above all the others.
Agreed . . . almost my 5th
Agreed . . . almost my 5th year too.
Debbie
I was
quite happy too see I clicked over five years just recently, :) Though I still feel I have soooo much more to learn.
Ron Paul is a body of wisdom!
Dr Paul was my mentor.
metaphorically, he hit me upside the head with a 2x4.
I suppose you are right, this website is now devoted to peace, gold and love. how is anyone to learn from that?
what does that even mean?
I'm still not giving up
on Ron Paul!
I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.
Leave the cult of personality to the Obamanoids...
...I saw them last night enraptured as he spoke, idolizing the man, hanging on his every word. All rational thought was suspended in a tidal onrush of emotion.
That is not what this movement is about. It is BIGGER than Ron Paul. A movement about one man hangs on a very thin reed indeed. But a movement about truth, love actualized and lived out, a society that fosters all the best that life has to offer, and ALL who contend for such a world, that is timeless and irresistible.
I have seen many posters here mindlessly lash out at Gary Johnson and those of us in the liberty movement who, post-Paul, support him as the next best available option merely because Gary Johnson is not Ron Paul. This is cult-like and will only damage the broader movement for liberty.
In light of these unhealthy tendencies exhibited by too many DP posters, I understand Michael Nystrom's removal of the "Inspired by" pic. To all the DPer's who are drawn to a cult of personality to the detriment of the larger movement, consider it an intervention.
You are right to say that the movement is bigger than Ron Paul
But Ron Paul is the first one to gather all those ideas that drive the movement: sound money, non-interventionism, personal liberty and the like. Not only that, he also explained the logic and the reasoning behind those ideas, and also set the example for us in his words, actions and principles. In some ways, Dr Paul could be considered a library, a book, a teacher of Liberty.
Obama could never match his own ideas (Hope and Change) with his principles (interventionism, welfarism, socialism), and Gary Johnson has sort of the right ideas but a less sound foundation. But Ron Paul has the right mix, and is considered the ideal, without a doubt.
Would it be wrong to have Ron Paul as THE reference point for the movement?
I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.
No, but...
...he's not just a reference point for some. To some, Ron Paul is a virtual demigod whom one must worship exclusively and unreservedly, or risk excommunication.
I have no problem with Ron Paul as a reference point. It's the suggestion that the liberty movement is only about Ron Paul and no lesser being ought to be supported in the alternative that I have a problem with.
Ron Paul has dropped the ball this election cycle. He laid down in the face of outrageous crimes, insults, and violence against his supporters and has opted to retreat from the field of political combat rather than continue the fight. He hasn't inspired much in the last four months other than angst, despair and gnashing of teeth. So, it's time for the movement to move on. Ron Paul's ideas are superlative. As a political leader of a movement, however, he has been found wanting. It's time to move on.