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The Ron Paul picture is gone...

I know that the Daily Paul is moving past focusing on Ron Paul's 2012 campaign, but did the Ron Paul picture on the right of the DP really have to get taken down? After all, our movement and this website IS still inspired by the good doctor even if it's no longer mainly about getting him elected. And that's all the picture said: "The Daily Paul is inspired by Ron Paul". Now there is nothing about him, not even a smaller picture. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Nystrom Update: Please see my response in this comment, below. Thank you.



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I agree

Rand COULD be the future of the movement, who knows, we will see.

But I voted you down, because your post is divisive, and you know it.

Why don't you join me in demanding Rand's picture be put up?

Let's unify and push this site forward into the inevitable future.

Rand's picture should go up there. He IS the future. He has led the way - isn't that clear?

What is divisive about making demands? Everyone else on this thread is doing it. Why are you singling me out?

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Haha

Do you really think Im stupid?

Unify? How about no, Its called Individualism.

I know your game, not everyone agrees with what Rand has done, EVERYONE HERE THOUGH SUPPORTS RON PAUL. By trying to force people to unify around who YOU think, you are causing division.

We will stay united in our belief for Liberty and our understanding that RON PAUL help start all of this.

Stop being intellectually dishonest.

I know the game you are playing.

Stop Trolling

You just got down voted into obscurity, so you then post the exact same thing.

thats called trolling.

You like to cause division I have noticed.

I have a right!

It is not trolling.

I have a right to demand the pictures that are on this website, just like everyone else. Just like Katniss Everdeen - it is my RIGHT!

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Sure you do

Its still called trolling when your intent is to cause division and arguements.

Obviously you are proud to be a troll.

Change it to RAND'S Picture!

Ron Paul is the past. RAND is the future of this movemet!

Let's force Micheal to put Rand's picture up instead! Get the pitchforks and torches and let's get over to his house!

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

LittleWing's picture

Michael, Mods, Shame on You!

For your disrespect towards Ron Paul and disrespect you are showing towards the community you have built using his name. Please delete my account. I will no longer log in to this forum.

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

Please try to hang on a bit longer, LittleWing.

Some of us are looking into a new home, should things not turn around for the better. http://www.hiddenplaces.org/main/ Maybe we will all be there soon.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Thanks, Nonna, for the heads up

if you have to, contact me personally if Michael won't allow you to post about a new home for Ron Paul supporters. I'd rather the DP just put up a pic of the good Dr, but it looks as if they've taken their cue from the GOP to shut us out. It's a real pity, too, since the request to have a pic of Dr Paul on the front page is such a non-contraversial ask. Seems the DP PTB forget where they came from and want us to forget to. Kinda like wiping out George Washington from the history books.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

LittleWing's picture

okay, I have been there before

Khomar is a good soul and host and I will check back in there soon. It has been a refuge for me in the past. I have been here almost five years and there have been times that deeply try my soul! I know I need to sign out soon ( a vacation from DP) or I'm gonna throw a full blown hissy fit! ;

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

I'M STILL HERE!

I'm gonna visit this post every single day until the picture of the GOOD Dr is back.

-vapaulsupporter

Me too. I'm going to post on

Me too. I'm going to post on this Thread every single day until the picture comes back up.

The least the mods can do

Is explain themselves so the DP community can weigh in. Mini website tyranny lead to larger website tyranny. Remember change comes when a tireless minority fight back even against minor trespasses.

-vapaulsupporter

jaseed's picture

My suggestion:

http://www.dailypaul.com/253481/ron-paul-poster-as-fundraiser

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

I don't mind change. But it

I don't mind change. But it is a shame that Michael's artistic talent is no longer visible. What's wrong with having a site that also appeals to the eyes like it once did? Ron Paul's picture need not take center stage. Michael could design a subtle yet undeniable tribute to the man who inspired this site. I know he has the talent. I've been paying attention.

I talked to a mod on the DP chat

He told me the Ron Paul picture isn't coming back...but I told him that we won't give up until it is. ;)

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Did they mention WHY they removed it in the first place???

Sorry doen't make sense.... I got intrduced to libertarian ideas by ACCIDENTALLY listening to one of Ron Paul's interviews few years ago, I then searched who this man was -because he intrigued me in the way he spoke- and the rest is history. I'm sure the pros far outweigh the cons of having his picture here in terms of introducing more people to libertarian and liberty ideas...

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

Exactly

The Same , I stumbled onto Ron Paul after finding out how fractional reserve banking works, and from there my mind was opened.

It was his honesty and integrity that made me keep listening to him, and researching his positions.

KEEP REQESTING UNTIL HE COMES BACK

GET 'ER DONE!

Let's Fight the Good Fight

RON PAUL PIC AND PBJ

Taking the pic away was like having a PBJ without the peanut butter. Plz bring back the "peanut butter." By the way thanx for the site.

Let's Fight the Good Fight

Katniss Everdeen is right!

I agree completely. The picture of Ron Paul is essential. It does not matter if he is in elected office or not. Only Ron Paul and not some acronym has brought people together: Libertarians, paleocons, minarchists, leftists, truthers etc. People that would not have been in the same movement if it was only an acronym for liberty or peace or sound money. Bring the picture back, Michael Nystrom.

Think you can disassociate the Liberty movement from the MAN?

by catering to lowest common denominators?
Me thinks you outwit yourselves.

Will you amend the stated primary purpose of the site?

Purpose:
To keep Dr. Paul’s ideas and message of Peace, Sound Money and Liberty alive through discussion and practice.

Normally, I wouldn't care but with all the GJ front paging

People are now saying this site has nothing to do with Ron Paul, it's now the Daily 'PAUL', just an acronym for peace, gold and love.

Members are being downvoted and harassed for recommending Ron Paul's plan of staying in the GOP.

It seems like the whole 'unity' thing is more like a 'get in line and shut up, we're implementing a new vision for the Libertarian Party.'

I have a feeling things are going to be radically different around here in a year.

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Fight the Ron Paul blackout on the Daily Paul (now 'P AU L'), put his removed poster back as your avatar:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9ir62bp8nshv83m

It's not just "people" who are saying that

it's the site owner. Start here: http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2637067 where he comments positively about Gary Johnson and says he doesn't want to run a "narrow minded" site where such things can't be discussed. And here: http://www.dailypaul.com/246545/dp-free-feature-weekend-the-...

As for Ron Paul's plan of "staying in the GOP," when did he say that? Here's one thing I know he did say:
http://www.dailypaul.com/176742/what-it-takes-to-win-ron-paul
"Do whatever you want. Do what you think is important. Everybody is an individual."

Here's what he said about Gary Johnson: "I think he’s wonderful, and I think he’s doing a good job and people should look at him and every individual should make up his own mind."

Besides, getting people to vote for Gary Johnson is a way of showing the RNC that they can't shit on the Revolution and expect to get away with it, a *visible* protest vote. And it's a visible protest vote that does not in any way conflict with taking over the GOP from within. Your vote is your own, nobody gets to tell you how to vote and nobody gets to know how you vote unless you want them to. So you could do *anything at all* in the GOP and still vote for GJ. Working within the GOP doesn't mean helping to get Romney elected. Romney is anti-liberty.

Finally, the recent rule change makes the delegate strategy no longer viable. Their demonstration that they can ignore the rules at will, and get away with it (if, that is, we can't come together in a visible and effective protest to show them otherwise) drives that point home even more. We didn't have the numbers or the money to run a "traditional" campaign, which is why we had the delegate strategy. We didn't have the power inside the GOP even to get them to follow their own rules. The burden should be on the people who want to work within the GOP to explain why they think that strategy is still viable. But they don't, they just say "it's what Ron Paul wants," Ron Paul's actual words to the contrary notwithstanding. Ron Paul won't be around forever. If you think the strategy is still viable you've got to be able to make a case for why it is viable *today*, after the rule changes.

Sooo what does his picture being here or not have to do with

being, or not being, "open minded"? Did the anti Johnson posts stop all of a sudden because RP's picture isn't there anymore lol, did it help or DID IT MAKE IT WORST?

*Confused

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

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The rule changes don't prevent us from taking over the state parties. And Ron Paul very cleary is asking us to still do it. It is not all about the presidential race. It is about the overall war.

If he's very clearly asking it

then quote the actual words where he asks it.

Here are some actual words from Ron Paul:
"Do whatever you want. Do what you think is important. Everybody is an individual."
http://www.dailypaul.com/176742/what-it-takes-to-win-ron-paul

Here are some other words from Ron Paul, about Gary Johnson: "I think he’s wonderful, and I think he’s doing a good job and people should look at him and every individual should make up his own mind."

So at the very least, let's get the "work from within" crowd admitting that it's possible to be a liberty-minded individual and think that Gary Johnson is "wonderful," and that Ron Paul has *not* said that there's any one strategy that he endorses.

If the "work from within" crowd would stop with the appeals to authority (which seems to be all they've got), especially when they're appealing to an authority who wants them to be individuals and make up their own minds, I think a lot of the divisiveness would go away. Working within the GOP is a respectable choice if you can do it without compromising your principles. So is supporting Gary Johnson. We don't all have to be doing the same thing.

Had to make room

for more ad space.

i think you are taking this "not about ron paul" meme waytoo far

nobody here is trying to argue that the movement is only about one man. we know it's not just about one person.

but with that said, it's certainly not "not about ron paul" either.

do you understand the difference?

bring the picture back.