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Why is it acceptable to occupy 148 countries but not let a vet occupy

a bank owned, foreclosed home?

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People and Homes

Yes. There is a very strong and intuitively obvious correlation between the rise in homeless people and the rise in people-less homes.

Ed Rombach

It is not bank owned! The bank has no money in these homes! NONE

Want proof that this is real? Ask yourself the following questions:

1. Were you told that the Federal Reserve Bank Policies and Procedures as well as the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) requirements imposed upon all Federally-insured (FDIC) banks in Title 12 of the United States Code, Section 1831(a), prohibit banks from lending their own money from their own assets or from other depositors? Did the bank tell you where the funds for the loan were to come from?

2. Were you told that the contract you signed, the promissory note, was going to be converted into a 'negotiable instrument' by the bank and become an asset on the bank's accounting books? Did the bank tell you that your signature on that note, makes it 'money', according to the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), sections 1-201(24) and 3-104?

3. Were you told that your promissory note would be taken, recorded as an asset of the bank, and then sold by the bank for cash, without "valuable consideration" given to obtain your note? Did the bank give you a deposit slip as a receipt for the promissory note you gave them, just as the bank would normally have to provide when you make a deposit to the bank?

4. Were you told that the bank would create a new account at the bank that would contain this money that you gave them?

5. Were you told that a check from this new account would be issued with your signature, without your knowledge, and that this new account would be the source of the funds behind the check that was given to you as a "loan"?

If you answered "No" to any of these questions, YOU HAVE BEEN CHEATED! How does that make you feel? It is now up to you to demand your deposit back and to challenge the validity of this bank loan Agreement. Since the banks and other lending institutions cannot allow "full disclosure" of your loan Agreement and cannot answer your challenges about it, their silence is the key, along with other necessary steps that can be learned by you, to get your deposit back and/or "payoff" their alleged loan to you.

Silly person

how long did it take you to put that argument together?
To the benefit of recruiting not one extra person to be persuaded in any small measure towards what we believe in or want to achieve.
You would put ordinary people off.
You are a nett negative to our main basic/first step cause of restoring the Bill of Rights.

See my comment above about missing the main point and not thinking things thru properly or enough.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Silly person????????????

Ian56 says "how long did it take you to put that argument together?"

How long did it take? 15 years!!!

Ian56 says "You are a nett negative to our main basic/first step cause of restoring the Bill of Rights."

This is one of the ways the banks are destroying America and making all American's their debt slaves! The Bill of Rights can never be restored as long as we have this type of money system.....where one class of citizen can create money from a promissory note and put the other class of citizen in debt!

What do you think Jefferson meant when he said.........
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Ian56 said "See my comment above about missing the main point and not thinking things thru properly or enough."

Yes I know this was not about the banks robbing people, but the picture of the sign said it all!!! If anybody is missing the point its you!!!!!!

I see you are a newbie to this site........

Please try thinking about the human condition for once

The Founders put a LOT of thought into that.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

And you just have Libertarian dogma

And like GOP and Dems with their dogmas, you are not thinking.

I think your original and subsequent coments are completely silly and get us NOWHERE.
In fact they are counter productive.
Like Marxists and neoconservatives you pay no heed to the human condition.

The Founders were very good in their grasp of the human condition.
Try being more like them.

Your posts are 100% technically correct.
And they get us NOWHERE with the current knowledge levels and thinking of the American public.
In fact they are COUNTER PRODUCTIVE.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

So massive inflation is silly?

Its inflation that's destroying human condition! Just like what Jefferson said "our children will wake up homeless" Ron Paul has been preaching this for years "if we don't change our monetary system first we will change nothing".

In fact they are COUNTER PRODUCTIVE?????? REALLY???? 10 years ago how many people knew that the Federal Reserve was not part of our government? Now compare that to today.

Its funny how you think you have all the answers....when in truth you have much to learn! Newbie!

You are correct. The home is

You are correct. The home is not bank-owned, but neither is it owned by the veteran. The owner of the home should decide what to do with his/her property. Neither of the parties referenced to in this post have any right to it.

You are correct

but could not negotiations be entered into, to the benefit of all parties?

Vets, Liberty ppl, taxpayers and banks.
See my comments above.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Thank you

Powerful statement.
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good question

i have another.

why does my local Central Market in Fort Worth each night throw away three, four, five, six......full grocery carts of prepared food into the incinerator instead of giving it away to a homeless shelter? or to me and my family who lives not three spits away and are often without food because i cannot work during architecture school - for which i cannot pay to finish the last 18 hours - and my wife's public teaching salary gets us about 3/4 across each month's canyon?

the reason is just how you know it to be.

give it away to one group - you'll be asked to give it away to everyone. i don't think that's how the Liberty message works.

Yea, I work at a grocery

Yea, I work at a grocery store. ALOT of stuff gets thrown away, its just terrible how wasteful it is.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Because

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Again you have not given the matter sufficient consideration

and the possibilities it offers to send a political message out and a negotiated voluntary settlement to the benefit of all parties.

You did not apply Common Sense.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

With all due respect Ian

I know my answer was simple. But because you disagree doesn't mean I have not thought it through or do not use common sense. I agree with the frustration at the hypocrisy and corruption but that doesn't change the fact that wrong does not right a wrong. I own two houses and since one stays empty for most of the time doesn't mean that someone can live there in my stead and against my wishes. And this is basically no different.

Again, I understand the anger at how the system works and how those in power take advantage of others. I personally only see one way for things to be righted, short of the second coming, and I hesitate to say it in a public forum such as this. Unfortunately there is no way to organize what is needed to exact that change. In my humble opinion.

ok

but I wasn't talking about doing anybody any harm or forcing anybody to do anything against their wishes.

Individuals woudn't sign up to do it because they couldn't get anything out of it and would take on risk.
Banks could make a huge gain by enhancing their brand image.
"We are the bank that is helping the Vets."
How much extra business would that generate by running that tagline on their ads?
The story would certainly be big enough to make the local papers, I am sure the bank would invite a couple of local reporters.
Free positive publicity - for a bank!!!!!!!!!!!!

It seemed a very unusual situation to me.
A strong possibility of a win/win/win/win.

Vets, vets orgs, taxpayers, banks and liberty people.

Whoops that's 5 sets of winners.
Nobody loses.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Cyril's picture

Goodness.

Goodness.

Do you have many other trick questions like this ?

;)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Another one

Why did America spend $5tn and counting on pointless wars of aggression to get nothing, whilst China grabbed half of Africa for free?

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

good one

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Maybe we should try thinking up some others

Must be plenty if you think about it.

I did a few on this sort of theme a few days ago.

Why did America bother to fight a war against Fascism when the Republican Party has just nominated one?

Why did Reagan bother to battle so hard to defeat communism when the Republican Party now nominates a Stalinist?

How come the Russians knew in the fifties that there government was bad news and was lying through their teeth, yet Americans today, with the internet available, believe every word their political leaders and favorite TV channel tell them?
Fox News the new Pravda. Karl Rove the new Goebbels.

Why are Republican christians voting for the least christian candidate running?
(If Romney ever became POTUS he would murder thousands of innocent civilians in pointless wars of aggression and plunder trillions from ordinary taxpayers on weaponry and other government waste.)

Why does anyone believe someone would create jobs, when they haven't created a SINGLE nett job in the last 28 years? (Romney.)

Why does anyone believe someone is now telling the truth, when they have a consistent track record going back 20 years, of LYING (Romney)

Why does anyone believe Romney would get rid of Obamacare, when his 2008 response to the question -"Would you roll out Romneycare nationally?" Replied ABSOLUTELY.

Unfortunately most of my questions have now disappeared from twitter.
I got up to question 16.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Cyril's picture

That's a good idea... could

That's a good idea... could help open some people's eyes on the current ABSURDITY of things.

For those who aren't 100% braindead yet, anyway.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

bumping--

good question--

if someone has a valid answer, I think that answer might be the key to what this nation's problem is--

(or problems)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--