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Johnson Says Troops Over There Are "Keeping us safe."

"Our thoughts and our gratitude are also with the amazing men and women of our military who are putting themselves on the line every day to keep us safe." - Gary Johnson, Sept. 11, 2011

http://race42012.com/2011/09/11/gov-gary-johnson-statement-o...

Kowtowing to the cruel lie that is keeping us in chains. No, Gary, blowing Iraqi babies to bits and bombing Afghan wedding parties is not keeping us "safe." This is a fundamental part of the Ron Paul Revolution.

What's next? We need to fight them there so we don't have to fight them here? Civilian casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable?

Political courage is for every day of the week, not for when no one is watching and waiting to jump down your throat. When millions were watching is exactly when truth-tellers like Ron Paul tell us that they don't hate us for our freedoms...they hate us "because we're OVER THERE!"

See: "blowback."

You cannot defend the war machine and be a Libertarian. War is the enemy of liberty.

""Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few." James Madison

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Really,

Ron Paul's entire Mission was to End the Fed, I learnt about Ending the Fed by learnign about Ron Paul?

Its not hard to understand.

So what are you saying, Elect GJ? He wont end the Fed, he will do the same as Obama or Romney.

I agree with you on Congress. So focus on Liberty Congressional Candidates and forget about the Presidency, as we have seen, its completely rigged anyway. Simply keep pushing Ron Paul and his priniciples as much as possible, Keep educating about the Corruption that kept Ron Paul out of the race, and Keep educating about the Monetary system.

Openening Peoples minds is the KEY! Have you not listened to a single thing Ron Paul has said?

Thanks for completely, probably purposely, missing the point.

unfortunately

none of the Liberty Congressional Candidates can live up to the ron paul purist standards. that is, they all have some flaws like rand and gary and are not perfect ron paul clones.

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You are really good

at missing the Point.

And you seem to like to troll.

i love to troll

the trolls

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Hahah

See I know im not a troll, and so do most others here, You on the other hand are always causing strife and trying to divide and conquer.

Have fun on your Journey.

i know you are but what am i

"You on the other hand are always causing strife and trying to divide and conquer."
not. i only troll the trolls. most have gone away as they always do.

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Really is that right

How do you know?

Your trolling me, And im not a Troll, so right now, I KNOW you are lieing.

So yeah good on you. I know what your up too.

"the point"

Ah yes, the point. The point, dear friend, is what to do this coming November. Educate, yes. Support liberty candidate for Congress, yes. And? Where's your answer to the question about who to vote for in November?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

IT DOESNT MATTER

Write in Ron Paul or Dont Vote, Wont make a lick of difference.

What I DONT want to see though, Is the Ron Paul revolution being hijacked and destroyed because we decided to compromise on our principles and support a candidate for President that was not ready / worthy.

"candidate for President that was not ready / worthy."

...no candidate will ever be ready/worthy by comparison with Ron Paul. Hopefully, while you and some others float into psychotic cult-worship of Ron Paul the man, the rest of us can work to advance his message.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Your Vote for

Gary Johnson, will do as much for the US as a vote for Obama, or a Vote for Romney!

Gary Johnson I DO NOT TRUST.

Why do you find that so hard to understand!

Go away!

you don't trust "no one but paul"

apathy will kill this movement. who will you be voting for?

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There you go

with the Apathy again, I think your pea sized brain is having trouble again.

Care to explain this Apathy? What the hell are you talking about!

i think it's clear to everyone but you

if this is your normal attitude i would recommend seeking anger management therapy. hopefully it's just a phase you're going through. ron paul withdraws or something.

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I think Its clear to

everyone but you, that we realise you are a Troll.

MMJ, Do you really think I care what you Say? I see your posts, I already dont like you. So no I dont care what you have to say.

The fact that nearly all the time you reduce things down to personal attack, shows who you are.

only today, am I doing so in return, Because at the moment, Im sick of this tirade of morons like you trying to Hijack this site.

ad hominem attack much?

first you replied that i was delusional and i ignored you with a quote. then you called me a troll and i responded in kind. then you called me a pea brain and a bunch of other stuff and then i attacked. now i see you're repeatedly calling me a moron in your other post. you really need to get yourself together because you're clearly the pot calling the kettle black.

i had you pegged for a troll about a month ago but avoided you. before that i never saw you on here or you weren't very memorable (name change?). at this point i think i am just making you more angry and you may just pop. i'll take the high road and stop because from what i've on this thread you will not.

see you later alligator.

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Tit for Tat

I believe you started on me.

Ive had enough with this idiocy.

Whatever mate

Not buying the Neocon trash about slaughtering Iraqi babies

is "keeping us safe" is not purist. It's foundational.

Taxes or even abortion can be waffled on. Not this.

We'll write in Ron Paul and stand a better chance of winning in 2016 than LP will ever have. At only 1-3% polling you would think LP could at least afford to be consistent and uncompromising in message. That is the freedom of knowing you are not going to win.

Instead you are a very unattractive combination of petty, pandering, and piss ant. Why don't you start your own website instead of hijacking ours?

Release the Sandy Hook video.

I'm going to try to be as objective as possible

... because I am and always will be a "Ron Paul supporter", however GJ is now my choice out of the 3 options on the ballot this november.

Wouldn't it be smarter to simply look up his stance on foreign policy? Rather than making an assumption based on a comment he made honoring the troops on 9/11?

To make it easier for you:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gary+johnson+foreign+policy

And here's a video of him discussing his foreign policy with Judge Napolitano:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnkH2mIb2V0

... if you don't want to watch it, the summary is:

- He's against all foreign aid
- He's against us having troops all over the world, uses germany and japan as examples
- Says he would bring home our troops from afghanistan immediately

Thank you for your post

very informative

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

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Well, he has said different things at different times. That is

the problem.

Debbie

so have you

right?

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Is Debbie running for President now?

Im seriously getting anoyed with anyone who doesnt agree with Gary Johnson getting attacked.

Really, thats cool, You know who else said that?

And had a very similar foreign policy when Running for President?

The one and Only

George Walker Bush!

thats Right GW, Why should we believe Johnson?

So since GW lied about his foreign policy

... we must now assume that anyone with a similar foreign policy is lying too?

Congrats - you possess the reasoning skills of a small child

Really?

Is that what you got from that?

What is with Operation Twist today?

I was simply saying just because Johnson says so, Doesnt mean its so.

Everyone Can Lie!

Sheesh, what is wrong with people today.

Lets apply that same principle to the OP

You cannot insinuate that Gary Johnson is a pro-war neocon simply because he said:

"Our thoughts and our gratitude are also with the amazing men and women of our military who are putting themselves on the line every day to keep us safe."

... just because Johnson says that, "doesn't mean it's so".


It only makes sense to hold more weight to what he has gone on record saying, multiple times, about his foreign policy - rather than deriving an inference from a superficial comment made on 9/11.

Also, it's circular logic to conclude that Johnson is lying, based upon the premise that everyone can lie.

Why do Gary johnson

people love to miss the Point.

Gary Johnson in MY opinion is LIEING, that was my Point.

And no Gary Johnson IS NOT pro war SIMPLY because he said -

"Our thoughts and our gratitude are also with the amazing men and women of our military who are putting themselves on the line every day to keep us safe."

He is PRO WAR because he agrees with Invading Uganda for "Humanitarian" *Cough rescources cough* reasons (The KONY 2012 BS), He believes in drone bombing people, and my main objection. HE HAS NOT STATED HE WILL END THE FED!

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING GARY JOHNSON, Until all of these positions are clarified, even then, he has already said it, so I wouldnt trust him anyway.

I understood your point perfectly

But since you missed mine, ill repeat it for you...Its circular logic to conclude that gary johnson is lying, based upon the premise that people can lie.

He said he wants to end all foreign aid, he wants to end the wars, and he doesnt see the purpose of us having military bases all around the world.

Your gripe is that he would go to war to prevent genocide? Well compared to the current POS politicians who promote to war to benefit oil companies and the military industrial complex - thats an AMAZING improvement.

And im not a "gary johnson person", i am and forever will be a Ron Paul supporter... I just dont have my head so far up his ass to realize we'll never get another Ron Paul in our lifetime, and trying to compare other politicians ( i.e.- Gary Johnson) to the standard he's set is futile.

He's no Ron Paul, but Gary Johnson is by FAR the best option on the ballot this november.

Why

do I always have to spell it out.

I Think Gary Johnson is just another puppet!

I dont trust him, He is another politician to me at the moment, I think he is lieing.

My point, which you still miss is, just because GJ says something, doesnt mean he is telling the truth.

I understand your point completely.

But that is not what I was saying.