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Ron Paul Write-in Info: CA, NY, MI, PA, WI, ME, VA Deadlines (152 Electoral Votes)

Here are the biggest states whose deadlines have not passed for making Ron Paul an official write-in candidate whose votes must be counted and recorded. Each state should keep a Facebook Write-in Ron Paul page to try to get a rough count of how many of us have pledged to go in and write-in Ron Paul. Where a vice president write-in candidate needs to be listed, pick someone who meets the age and citizenship requirement.

What you find out as you go down these lists is it is surprising easy to make someone an official write-in. Between just these states below are more than half of the 270 needed to win. What this means is a strong Ron Paul write-in will have a strong impact which cannot be ignored, whoever winds up winning. This will force attention to the Ron Paul message, and show that we demand to be taken seriously as a force in 2016. Ron Paul's friend Doug Wead assures us that Dr. Paul may not have been kidding when he said on Leno that he is "resting up" for 2016.

Dr. Paul comes from a family of near-centenarians, folks who are just getting started when they are 75. Praise God.

In all cases your primary resource is your Secretary of State's elections department, which runs the show. Ask lots of questions and make sure you understand exactly what is required. Look up state Ron Paul delegates to give you a helping hand. They are the ones who can contact Ron Paul in cases where his signature is needed, which means you have to save time for a Fed Ex overnight both ways (or maybe even meet up with Dr. Paul himself!)

More research coming. Share what you find or ask questions here.

CA: 55 Electors

Needs independent confirmation: According to this report CA has already done an official write-in for Ron Paul for its 55 electors. If the report turns out to be mistaken, here are the requirements:

From:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2012-elections/nov-general/p...

DECLARATION OF WRITE-IN CANDIDACY–PRESIDENTIAL ELECTOR

1. Voters in the General Election are technically voting for the 55 Presidential Elector candidates, not directly for the candidates for President and Vice President. Therefore, in order to be a write-in presidential candidate, that candidate must have 55 write-in Presidential Elector candidates file papers pledging themselves to the presidential candidate.

2. The 55 write-in candidates for Presidential Elector who have pledged themselves to vote for a candidate for President and a candidate for Vice President must file a Declaration of Write-In Candidacy, which must be received by the Secretary of State on or before October 23, 2012 (E-14).

NY: 31 Electors

http://www.elections.ny.gov/RunningOffice.html

Quote:

Write-In Candidates

To run as a write-in candidate for president, you are required to file a certificate of candidacy with the State Board of Elections no later than the third Tuesday prior to the general election [Oct. 16.] The certificate must be signed by the presidential candidate and must contain the following information:

Name and address of presidential candidate
Name and address of any vice-presidential candidate, and a signed certificate of acceptance from such candidate
Name and address of at least one elector, with an acceptance certificate and pledge of support signed by each such candidate for elector.

See Election Law §6-153 (pdf 3,303KB) for further information.

MI: 17 Electors

Page 2: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/2012_Important_Dates_Filing_Deadline_346119_7.pdf

Quote:

By 4:00 p.m.,
Oct. 26, 2012

Write-in candidates file Declaration of Intent forms for the November general election. (168.737a)

Michigan Declaration of Intent: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Dec-Int-Write-In_94360_7.pdf

PA: 21 Electors

State Elections Department: http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/voting_and__elections/12363

More information needed. Information from 2008 web resource: http://writein2008.blogspot.com/search/label/Pennsylvania

Quote:

The official election code refers to the fact that a voter who wishes to cast a vote for a write-in Presidential candidate must write-in the names of his/her 21 Presidential Electors on the ballot. However, according to a PA Bureau of Elections official, historically counties in PA have counted whatever is written in. If voters write in the actual candidate’s name, that write-in vote has been counted for the candidate. The official said that the distinction between “presidential elector” and “presidential candidate” is allowed to be blurred. However, he said that he always advises write-in candidates to contact the various counties in PA to assure that all the votes written in for them are counted as such – for example, without that communication, some counties might not watch out for various spellings of a candidates name, and end up counting them as separate votes, etc....

VA: 13 Electors

http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/documents/Cidates/Bulletins/12PresGen_BAL_ACSS.pdf

Quote:

Write-in votes for President and Vice President will be counted only if the
following requirements are met:

1. The candidates for President and Vice President file with the State
Board of Elections, the joint declaration of intent to be write-in
candidates. (Prescribed form enclosed.)

2. The joint declaration of intent includes a list of the thirteen
presidential electors pledged to those candidates.

3. The joint declaration of intent is received by the State Board of
Elections on or before October 27, 2012.

WI: 10 Electors

Unclear. From 2008 resource:
Quote:

The candidate must file a list of 10 presidential electors and a “Declaration of Candidacy” in the following manner no later than October 21, 2008. The list shall contain one presidential elector from each congressional district and 2 electors from the state at large and the names of the candidates for president and vice president for whom they intend to vote, if elected.*

Because of the clause below, candidates do not actually need to file the list of electors to have votes counted.

Elections Division - Wisconsin Government Accountability Board
17 West Main Street, Suite 310
PO Box 2973
Madison, Wisconsin 53701-2973

Phone: 608-266-8005 FAX: 608-267-0500
gab@wi.gov

WI Declaration of Candidacy: http://elections.state.wi.us/docview.asp?docid=1839&locid=47


ME: 5 Electors (not large but it's the principle)

Quote:

This form and a consent form for each of the 4 electors named above submitted to the Department of the Secretary of State, Division of Elections, no later than 5 p.m. on Monday, September 24, 2012 (45 days before the General Election -- date adjusted for deadline falling on weekend).

Maine Electors Form:
https://maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/2012/2012gewipvppe.pdf

Other states:

The first thing to do is find out what your state says about official write-ins, which means going to the state government website, clicking "Secretary of State", then "elections", then "candidates." This usually takes you to the place where you can do hit the "edit" > "find" on your brower, then in the box that comes up type the word "write." This will search a big document and go straight to where the words "write-ins" comes up, so you don't have to plow through the whole document. Use this thread to ask for help if you are having trouble finding anything.

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I did notice with some states for the write in you can not just put Ron Paul you have to print his full name out for it to count!No errors at all it has to spelled out Ronald Ernest Paul on ballots for it to qualify!

California update: CA is a piece of cake and has the big elector

prize, 55 electors. A big Paul write-in here could swing the election all by itself.

No Ron Paul approval required, requires at least 55 electoral candidates to file declarations with the Sec of State. Always get an official time-stamped copy of your declaration. Someone should coordinate CA and centralized the declarations, and get an official statement on letterhead that the requirement has been met for an official write-in!

From CA elections division:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2012-elections/nov-general/p...

DECLARATION OF WRITE-IN CANDIDACY–PRESIDENTIAL ELECTOR

1. Voters in the General Election are technically voting for the 55 Presidential Elector candidates, not directly for the candidates for President and Vice President. Therefore, in order to be a write-in presidential candidate, that candidate must have 55 write-in Presidential Elector candidates file papers pledging themselves to the presidential candidate.

2. The 55 write-in candidates for Presidential Elector who have pledged themselves to vote for a candidate for President and a candidate for Vice President must file a Declaration of Write-In Candidacy, which must be received by the Secretary of State on or before October 23, 2012 (E-14).

Release the Sandy Hook video.

The first thing to do is run down what your state's rules

about official write-ins, which means going to the state government website, clicking "Secretary of State", then "elections", then "candidates." This usually takes you to the place where you can do hit the "edit" > "find" on your brower, then in the box that comes up type the word "write." This will search a big document and go straight to where the words "write-ins" comes up, so you don't have to plow through the whole document. Use this thread to ask for help if you are having trouble finding anything.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Bump!

I hope this will help a little,this shows for 2016 map,but might make it easier to help!

http://www.anamericanvision.com/info/state_certifications_re...

Maine?...Hmmmmmm

You mention Maine.Wouldn't that be poetic Justice? Ron Paul wining Maine in the general election on write in and sticking it to folks who screwed us.You have inspired me. Here's my suggestion. Instead of spreading out our resources and winning nothing. Pick one state where Ron has the best shot and Maine sounds perfect.Get volunteers to go there, Send every nickel we can gather from across the country. Win one stinking state, If this election is anything like 2000 and 2004 that State could be the deciding factor. Can you imagine Romney crawling on his knees: "Please Ron give me your electors I'll give you anything you want."RP:"Okay Mitt this is what I want, Bring all the troops home tomorrow, fire Charlie Webster, apologize to the GOP RP Maine delegates, Don't declare war without a declaration and oh yes, one more thing, I want to be Secretary or State or Treasury.- PS Montana put RP on the ballot in 2008 without his permission, so they're my second choice.

professorjoe

Let's put the Paul back in the Daily' PAUL'

Called twice for liberty.

Calling tomorrow again.

================================
Fight the Ron Paul blackout on the Daily Paul (now 'P AU L'), put his removed poster back as your avatar:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9ir62bp8nshv83m

Our actions "will demand we

Our actions "will demand we be taken seriously" is overstated.
We are taken seriously. A write in doesn't help. No way in Hell Paul will win it that way.
But demanding you be taken seriously is just fluff. We must educate. Grow #s so we can't be thumped

Now this is a goal worth pursuing.

Unfortunately, Ron will have to agree to most of this and sign some papers.

If he balks, then there's not much point. The write-in won't count.

Goal#1 then is to get him to go along with this.

Not True

Montana put him on the ballot in 2008 without his authorization,Pick a state I'll be first to donate- read my post above.

professorjoe

So did Louisiana. And Paul had tried to have his name

removed.

Montana told him it was too late.

In Louisiana, the candidate doesn't get to decide. He isn't technically on the ballot anyway - Electors are. They are the candidates. So if they don't want to withdraw, they stay on.

That's what happened.

And that was also a different scenario - he was put on the ballot as a party nominee. (local parties)

What is being talked about here is putting him on as a write-in. The rules are different for that case.

Maybe in Montana, they don't need his permission. But those links show in a majority of states, they do.

Also, Montana and Louisiana both put Paul's Electors on the ballot within the deadline. The deadline has now passed for both states.

We are his loyal supporters we have a right to write him in if

we want. His signature for official write-in status, where needed, just insures that it is counted. When you are official that means they are looking for the name and possible mispellings so they can count it.

I don't see how he can have a problem with that. If I were him I'd say "If they want to write me in let them knock themselves out." We are doing this all on our own.

Otherwise I may simply not vote at all. That's my right too.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Yes, the write-ins will count in the 8 states which allow you

to do write ins. Even CA is allowing Paul write-ins.

You don't bother much with laws do you? You're like those in

the GOP and DNC who just do whatever the hell you damned well please hunh?

Here's a thread for you with links to state laws on the issue. Try reading them for a change.

http://www.dailypaul.com/248500/presidential-write-in-laws-b...

If Paul doesn't file that paperwork - there will be no way to write him in in some states, and they'll just discard your ENTIRE ballot - including down ticket races.

You really need to educate yourself before you advise or encourage people to do things that will be detrimental to their vote.

Damn the torpedoes lads full speed ahead!

A conversation was relayed to me with a state election official in which she said she had NEVER heard of a ballot being discarded because the write-in space had been used. The worst they can do is not count it.

This shows the contempt of the Johnson people for Ron Paul, lying through their teeth to prevent his supporters from supporting him. If you have a SINGLE STATE which has such a law, quote it chapter and verse and link it back to the OFFICIAL state site (not some link to the law library saying "read this.")

IF they are Johnsonites. If they were true LP, they would be begging Gary to put Dr. Paul at the top of the ticket, so they could taste possible victory. I think they are GOP and this thread is the one they did not want to see. Notice the bullying tone that is the first choice of these types.

It means we are on EXACTLY the right track, double down. Smaller states, come in, what do you find? Over.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

I'll admit, I don't recall which states do that.

That info was posted here on DP back in the fall and winter when we were discussing that AFTER TAMPA IS TOO LATE.

So if they were lying, that's on them. I'm taking their word for it because they tried to warn us last time they wrote-in Ron Paul in 2008 and they watched their ballot go to the trash can.

I do know in Louisiana, we do not allow write-ins. If you get a mailed absentee ballot (the only way to get one on paper) and you write ANYTHING on the ballot other than where you are supposed to, which includes writing in a candidate that isn't on the list, your ballot does end up in the trash. It's just a "spoiled" ballot and it isn't counted. I don't know if that is by law or convention.

Taken under law or not, it really doesn't change my point - DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

You are advocating a position that very well MIGHT cost someone their other votes in other races.

THAT IS IRRESPONSIBLE of you. HIGHLY.

It's your plan.

It's not my job to see to it all your ducks are in a row.

I'm off to bed, but when I have some time, I'll try to dig up those old threads and look for the posts about having your ballot thrown out. We'll see what states this affects and then go look up the law.

Of course, if I was contemplating this move, I would want to know for myself. I wouldn't just do it on someone's advice and end up losing my other votes.

I really can't wait until gj

disappears into obscurity because there is no way he'll have any affect on the presidential elections. You only write what you do because of your absolute support for gj.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Why did you presume I have absolute support for GJ when I have

NEVER said anything that could remotely be misconstrued toward that idea?

Please, show me where you came up with this interesting little theory about me.

My position on how to go about doing a write-in campaign has absolutely NOTHING to do with GJ. It has to do with STATE LAW.

Are you too ignorant and hot headed to be bothered to read that link and what it links to either?

My State

In NY you can write in who ever you want but they will not legally count.
There is a reason for that, If I write in Ron Paul how do they know which Ron Paul I am voting for. Could be Ron Paul the plumber in Brooklyn. Now having said that I also add that if 2% of voters write in Ron Paul and and Romney loses by 2% don't you think those bastards at the RNC will sit up and take notice?

professorjoe

I don't see anything wrong with that, but, does NY throw your

entire ballot out?

Do you lose all of your votes in the down ticket races?

Maybe you don't care or weren't voting in them anyway.

But for those who do, if that's the case, don't you think it's irresponsible not to at least know of this danger, warn others of it, and let people make their own decisions?

Of course, if the write-ins aren't counted at all, how will Romney know the 2% he lost by were write-ins?

YES!

BUMP!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

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thanks for the info!

I'm waiting for a call back

I called and I want to find out if Ron Paul, who ran as a Republican in the Primary election, has the legal right to become a write in candidate through this process, if the 55 papers have been filed, if sour loser laws apply. I think they do based on the note on the bottom of the PDF you provided a link

IMPORTANT NOTICE
This information sheet of presidential elector candidate qualifications and requirements is for general information only and does not have the force and effect of law, regulation, or rule. In case of conflict, the law, regulation, or rule will apply. The candidate should obtain the most up-to-date information available because of possible changes in law.

Sore loser laws don't apply to presidential candidates

in the general election. Be ready for disinfo. They don't apply because in presidential elections you are actually electing electors, not the candidate himself. One unforeseen good consequence of the Electoral College system.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

You think the Sec of state will disinfo me?

I was an elector for Ralph Nader in 04. Nader was a qualified write in candidate by the primary election.

Maybe not you, but a secretary of state's office once did not

tell me something I needed to know, which resulted in signatures being disqualified. Probe, ask questions, double check. When the deadline is past it's "oops, sorry, nothing we can do."

Make sure there are no stray marks on any petitions. I've seen signatures disqualified for this when they want to play dirty.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Me too

When we first petitioned for what became Proposition 215 '94, the Sec of State made a lot of jokes about people being too stoned to correctly sign their names.

When I worked on Nader's ballot access in several states the amount of petitions being disquafied was mind blowing. It's pretty obvious the government had designed itself to protect those in power against those who only wanted what the constitution promises.

None the less, I'm just wanting to understand the rules, and that notice I posted bothers me, because it appears to be a set up for a knock down.. I did not get a return phone call. I will try again, with no expectations,, after all.. I did ask the Sec of State how Romney's name got on her web page as THE GOP niminee June 6TH, months before the RNC.

Paulers lets get er done

...enough of this noise that was fun. Saddle up.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Thank you for this productive, constructive post

You may wish to also see the following:

Let's win Iowa, Maine, New Hampshire, and more for the gipper:

http://www.dailypaul.com/253613/ron-paul-still-can-win-dispu...

Let all the Ron Paulers at least join as one group in these winnable states and win them with absentee ballots and write-ins backed up by affidavits.

All Secretary of State offices are closed pretty much by

now...we've got a weekend to line up ducks and hit the ground running on Monday morning. We need delegates who know how to get through to Dr. Paul as a first order of business in some states, as some require his signature at some point. Overnight FedEx both ways will do it.

nuff of this arguing at this site let's get back to what we're here for: Ron Paul. : )

Release the Sandy Hook video.