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Will Defecting from the GOP Help Ron Paul's Supporters Take It Over?

Over the last year, many of Paul’s supporters have claimed that the GOP can’t win without them. That’s either a threat or a promise. As any parent knows, neither should be made emptily.

Following all of the shenanigans against them throughout the Primary season, and the RNC’s decision in Tampa to alienate them completely, Paul’s supporters have been considering how to vote in November.

Although most of them would like nothing more than to write his name in, they know that in most states, such write-in votes would not be counted, so as a statement of principle or protest, they would be rather ineffective, however satisfying they’d be to cast.

Therefore, I recently polled the 13,000-strong community of Blue Republicans, all Ron Paul supporters, to find out for whom they intended to vote for President.

An overwhelming 66% said they would be voting for Gary Johnson – the Libertarian candidate who shall be the only candidate other than Obama and Romney on the ballot in every state (absent yet more GOP mafia tactics). Sixteen (16) percent will be writing in Ron Paul, even though most don’t expect their vote to be counted, and Romney will attract the votes of a negligible 6%. (Margin of error +/-4%.)

These results may have serious implications for November’s election and signal the real possibly of an exciting shift in the trajectory of American politics.

The liberty movement is united in its belief that America’s two-party system, rather than a single party alone has brought America to crisis. Its members understand that those issues of agreement between the parties are much more important than are any issues on which they traditionally disagree.

There are myriad examples. Both parties support a monetary system that systematically moves wealth away from productive earners to a financial elite that operate under special government license; both parties favor cronies with well-paid lobbyists; both support a militaristic foreign policy that leads to loss of innocent life in countries from which we are not threatened; both parties have worked hard to eliminate the first, fourth, fifth and tenth amendments of your Bill of Rights through, for example, the Patriot Act, the National Defense Authorization Act and FinCEN (look it up), to name just a few.

The duopoly has for decades ensured that when the partisan Elephants and Donkeys agree on an issue, the people have no way of democratically acting on their own interests at the ballot box. This used to be the case because it was impossible for any third party to receive enough votes to influence the outcome of an election or even the flavor of politics that would follow it.

But today, things may be different. The liberty movement, two million of whom voted for Dr. Paul in the Republican primaries, is now a large, politically active and unusually coherent political force. Many of its core themes are consistent with much of what the Republicans say they stand for, but have arguably not acted on since Eisenhower retired to his farm.

Every presidential election since Reagan has been won by a margin of no more than 8.5%. That translates to about 11 million votes today.

For all I know, there may well have been 11 million people in this country who would have preferred a more pro-liberty, pro-Constitution, anti-cronyism, anti-militarism, smaller-government president to the guy who actually won in all of those elections. Indeed, on the two occasions a non-establishment candidate, Ross Perot, campaigned with full media coverage, his vote exceeded this 8.5% - and that was without benefiting from an organic and passionate political movement with a well-defined philosophy.

More importantly, right now, millions of Paul’s supporters who are against the status quo have an even deeper revulsion of the party that should embrace them, the GOP, than of the other party whose politics are even more antithetical to their own. The RNC’s disenfranchisement of Paul’s supporters have made large numbers of them feel in their gut that the “lesser of two evils” is really more “evil” than “lesser”, and a vote for the Republicans would be something like buying a “thank you” gift for the man who just burgled your house.

Is eleven million impossible? That rather depends on how many Ron Paul supporters there really are.

Despite the fact that a significant minority of Paul’s supporters feel that differences between their man and Johnson are show-stoppers, a large showing for Johnson could have some of the significant practical effects that they have been seeking all along.

First, it would help expand the liberty movement’s rEVOLution by getting it televised – at least, as a discussed statistic on the news shows on election night. That’s important because the rest of the country is awaiting proof that the liberty movement has the size and the wherewithal to impose itself on the mainstream.

No revolution in a country with such a dispersed population as the USA will likely be successful without being televised: because the beaming of a thing into every living room is the only way the people who are sitting in those living rooms – its non-participants – will really believe it’s happening. A political or cultural revolution changes a society only if it is visible and dramatic, for then people find that their old ideas no longer enable them to make sense of what is happening around them or, at least, make them curious enough to see what all the fuss is about.

A large Johnson vote beamed into American homes on 6 Nov. may do more to get people Googling his views and seriously considering the possibility of something other than the two-party system than any campaign ads he can make or money he can spend. And if his vote exceeds the margin of victory of the winner, and the pundits point out that Ron Paul’s following is mostly responsible, the Paulites will have ceased to be politically marginal, by definition.

Second, a large Johnson swing could hugely boost Ron Paul’s supporters in realizing one of their greatest political ambitions - a takeover of the GOP. Ron Paul has said – and proven in the last year – that the weakness of our democracy is such that working within a Republicrat party allows people to have a much larger platform and affect many more minds. If Gary Johnson does really well as a third-party candidate in November, it will likely be because Ron Paul didn’t run as one.

A Romney loss in November by less than the Johnson vote could force the GOPowers-that-be to consider a leader in 2016 who is credible with Constitutional voters who like their individual liberties.

As of now, the obvious beneficiary of such an outcome would be Rand Paul. Some in the liberty movement have never quite forgiven him for endorsing Mitt Romney, but that is probably to mistake a man’s methods for his principles and to take too lightly the importance of having an insider for an ally. Politics is a place for principles - not purism.

Saying Rand isn’t broadly pro-liberty because he endorsed Romney is like saying Obama isn’t broadly progressive because he has not collectivized farms. To both claims, the appropriate response is simply, “Look at everything else he’s done”. And most importantly, in supporting Romney, Rand kept a promise he made when he ran for Senate in Kentucky. That promise won him the support of the party that put him in the Senate, where, among other things, he defeated legislation that would have enabled the indefinite detention of Americans found innocent in a court of Law. Keeping one’s word is justification for anything that does no harm. When it does good, all the better.

But the ultimate justification for Rand’s approach would of course come be his presence on the inside when the party realizes it needs a liberty-focused Constitutionalist to lead its makeover after a few months of pondering defeat.

Very Sun-Tzu: “He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious.”

If not Rand, then others: politicians support what is becoming more popular so that they may become more popular. If a large turn-out for Gary Johnson reveals that that civil rights are growing in popularity with the speed that the main parties are losing theirs, then all those peace-loving liberty fans who have worked so valiantly to take over positions in their county and state GOP may find that in a few years they’ll be able to vote for someone in their own party with a completely clear conscience.

And that would be a rEVOLution, indeed.



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I'm still on the fence, due to GJ's foreign policies

We need Mr. Johnson to clarify this huge issue that's holding RP supporters back from a clear GJ support. If not, I may vote for Rosanne Barr

Check VG's foreign policy

Check VG's foreign policy platform as it has evolved. He wants out of all undeclared wars and out of US military bases throughout the world:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/11767-vir...

Um, I'm pretty sure GJ's foreign policy

Is the same as RP's. Given that he's said it multiple times and it's listed here... http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/foreign-policy

So what are you talking about?

Your link sure doesn't

Your link sure doesn't indicate his policy is the same as RP's. He only wants to get out of Afghanistan, and apparently not Iraq, Libya, the Gulf States, or (if you include surrogates) Syria. He only wants to "reevaluate" US presence in Japan, Germany, etc. His platform is a great deal better than BO's or GR's, but is pretty far from Ron Paul's, if the article to link to is correct.

Bump for a great article

:)

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

Those who ignore history...

1980's
STRATEGY:
"We MUST infiltrate and take over the republican party."
SUCCESS:
Y - Reagan Revolution
RESULTS:
MORE UNCONSTITUTIONAL Central Government Planning.

1990's
STRATEGY:
"We MUST infiltrate and take over the republican party."
SUCCESS:
Y - Contract With America
RESULTS:
MORE UNCONSTITUTIONAL Central Government Planning.

2000's
STRATEGY:
"We MUST infiltrate and take over the republican party."
SUCCESS:
Y - SWEEP of Compassionate Conservatives
RESULTS:
MORE UNCONSTITUTIONAL Central Government Planning.

2010
STRATEGY:
"We MUST infiltrate and take over the republican party."
SUCCESS:
Y - "Tsunami" of "tea"
RESULTS:
MORE UNCONSTITUTIONAL Central Government Planning.

2012?
THIRD PARTY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT TOMORROW... NOW!!!!!!! TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

That is excellent!

That is excellent!

KWB

Can I get an Amen for Brother Winston?

AMEN!

Beware folks...

of the creeping Liberty movement co-opters!

Listen for the KEY ESTABLISHMENT GOP FEAR-MONGERING, designed to corral you back into your GOP stable...
"ABO."
"Obama must go."
"We can't afford four more years of Obummer."
"Obozo will destroy the nation."

If you hear this... BOLT! AND FAST!!!!!!
DO NOT LET THEM DO TO THE LIBERTY MOVEMENT, WHAT THEY DID TO THE TEA PARTY!!!!!!!!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

A protest vote against Romney

A protest vote against Romney can have a powerful impact on future elections as long has Obama wins this election -- the slimmer margin of success the better. This should be the neocon's last stand.

With the understanding

that I am not trying to talk anyone into or out of anything, I think it important to understand that should Obama win reelection, no matter how thin the margin, there is every probability that 2016 may turn out to be a moot point, for all of us. So then, what would be the point of the exercise? Perhaps I am being too pesimistic, but I have a horrible forboding I am unable to rationalize away.

Really is this

where you start telling us about the lesser of two evils and the world is coming to an ENDDDDDDDD. Well let me clue you in that we are already going over the cliff and even if that scumbag Romney wins we are going over the cliff so lets make our votes heard and do it on principals and NOT pick scumbag D or scumbag R and vote for GJ or VG or write in Ron Paul! But I will vote for GJ here in TN as the write ins will not be counted here but I also have very little problem voting for VG either I just was not sure he was on the ballot here. Thats the bottom line I will not vote for Romney and in fact I am working for a couple of liberty minded candidates here in our state and congressional elections so that is where I have shifted my energys.

In Liberty Dan
Only RP/GJ in 2012

HEAR! HEAR! Dump RINO's Tomorrow - Write in Ron in 2 months!

If we MAKE them obey the laws and count the write ins - OUTSIDE the Establishment's crooked voting machines - Ron Paul can WIN where GJ doesn't stand a chance (unless we write him in for VP). Write-Ins will RULE on 11-6-12.

But first - the BEST "Up Yours Loveletter" that we can send the Establishment RINOs is to leave their "party" en masse tomorrow.

Dump Dumbo on IX XI
http://dumpdumbo.blog.com/

Here's why:
http://dumpdumbo.blog.com/down-by-rinos/

And then our glorious Victory Day on Guy Fawkes +1
http://dumpdumbo.blog.com/then-what/

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Satyam Eva Jayate!
Truth Alone Triumphs!

What part of Romney...

is exactly the same as Obama, are you not seeing? So we get the same policies for 8 years instead of 4.... how is that better? Many of us have a "foreboding feeling", but a Romney Presidency is not going to stop our "train on it's track"... in fact it is entirely possible.... it might just speed it up!

Dagny
"I don't know if the world is full of smart men bluffing
or imbeciles who mean it."

What... EXACTLY...

do you "fear?"

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

After all the discussion is done...

I find myself faced with a painful conclusion. Knowing full well that in my state a write in vote for Dr. Paul will go straight into the trash can the second I leave the polls... And knowing that a vote for Gary Johnson will be counted, but also knowing that Mr. Johnson has absolutely no prayer whatever of being elected President... Where do I go with this thing? Which would we rather have? The probable nightmare of Willard Romney... or the guaranteed tragedy of a second Obama term? I would love to cast a feel good vote for that in which I truly believe. Yet I know in my heart that I cannot because stopping the Obama wrecking machine is of far greater importance than how I feel when I leave the polling place. Much as it pains me to say so, unless something radically changes between now and election day I will be going to the polls, barf bag in hand, and while holding my nose, cast my vote for Romney. Obama MUST go! And that's the end of the story.

God! This SUCKS!!!!!

Obama must go to be replaced by what? Obama 2.0?

Like Obama, Romney can't and won't fix the economy. This is because neither understands why our economy continues to tank - the federal reserve.

Like Obama, Romney will continue (and escalate even more) our foreign wars.

If Romney wins (especially after the recent power grab at the RNC), expect a two-term president. That means we'll most likely be stuck with Romney until 2020. Is this what you'd prefer? 8 more years of an "obama-like" president? Or 4 more?

If you're going to vote, write Ron Paul's name in, or better yet - vote third party!

So wait

Your vote only matters if it wins? Gosh, that sounds like the same logic people used to marginalize Paul in the first place.

No excuses people! The fact that 16% of you are planning on writing in RP is insane: you might as well not vote. Vote for Gary Johnson. Is he perfect? No. But *neither was Ron Paul*, and he *asked* us not to treat him like a cult of personality. But your vote WILL count, and it WILL be known that votes were taken from Romney AND Obama no matter who wins.

But why even say that? How about voting for GJ for his actual merits? I say this as someone who used to complain on a regular basis about GJ supporters on this site... now that it's over, I am finding more and more things to like about him as a very real possibility for President.

Remember, every time you say "he can't win" you make it more and more true... imagine if everyone who said that voted for him instead?

Palerider...do what you have to do BUT

keep in mind, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Even if Obama wins, the Liberty Movement will elect Liberty-loving candidates in the House and Senate as well as in state governments that will limit the damage he can do.

November will be our best OPPORTUNITY to send a strong message to the GOP, ignoring our ideals will only cost you votes. All the GOPs effort will have been for naught.

If they are rewarded with our votes, then they will ALWAYS take us for granted.

It takes great courage to bring meaningful change and many don't have the stomach for it. Only a third of this country were willing to fight for Independence from England against great odds but look what happened. A third can bring real change.

Always vote your conscience, not lesser of the 2 evils

We've been brain washed by the idea of wasted votes; thus, the huge problem with the election process. Don't you get it? Lesser of the 2 is STILL EVIL. Why vote for evil????

By your logic...

you shouldn't vote for Paul even if it counts. If you are going to choose a 1.5 to defeat a 1 when someone who is a 7 or 8 is available and a 9-10 write in is available. Romney or Obama WILL WIN. I'm still not voting for either of them and will vote third party (not write in). As long as R+D = far less than 100 the message will be sent.

palerider . .

your thinking is right in line with the gop.
No matter what they do to us or Ron Paul, who you want people to think you like, you'll still give romney your vote.

Lets talk details here because this is the typical asymmetrical conversation all the gop talking heads spout.
"obama wrecking ball"
"damage obama is doing"
"unbelievebale debt obama racked up"

As if there's this other choice of NOT a wrecking ball. Or some other candidate from the two parties that WONT spend us into oblivion.
Or some other candidate that DIDNT use slave labor in his company(Bain capital)

Its an interesting exercise in propaganda. The above phrases keep getting parroted by all the "conservatives" everywhere I go so after a while they all believe it as much as they do their religion.

So, heres the question,
Tell me what he's done thats sooooo bad and the results of it on this country . . . .that bush didnt do, or mccain wouldnt have done or romney wont do.

without the answer, this argument IS asymmetrical . . . and illogical.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Your Analysis is right but

your decision needs review. After getting STOMPED by GOP, you still want to vote for Romney???? Are you ready for 8 years of war??????? At least Obama gives us DEFINITELY LESSER CHANCE OF taking us to a war.

I agree that Gary might not win in 2012, but what happenned to our cause???????? Gary is MUCH BETTER compared to Obama or Romney.

Don't you realize that votes going to Gary WILL HURT ROMNEY?? - THIS IS EXACTLY THE OUTCOME WE WANT..

Think friend...

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS

We MUST come together, hold hands and support the BEST MAN on the ballot.. LETS ENDORSE GARY JOHNSON for our movement.

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Stay in GOP, to get liberty minded people elected

to party offices from local to national level
but only vote for candidates that are liberty minded and follow the Constitution

I like this post....

It is something I have been considering..... which I never thought I would say. I always thought I would write in Ron Paul... more as a form of "flipping the finger to the statists", than anything... but I know my vote will be thrown out in the end. If I vote GJ... I may not agree with him on everything, but he's smart, honest and seems to be becoming more educated on the topics RP speaks about as time passes... I don't feel like he is the lesser of 3 evils, he is a good man... we just don't agree on everything. At least with him we would have more freedoms back, allowing a return to the people's power to change things on local and state levels... where he would not be exerting his 'power'... therefore his personal opinion on certain subjects would not really matter anyway. Still thinking about it, but I really like the thoughts put out there in this little editorial, as it is exactly what has been buzzing around in my head for a while now! I love the message it would send to the rest of the country... talk about "flipping the bird".... that might just get the message across!
I also like that it could really set us up nicely in the next election. My 2 cents adjusted for inflation!

Dagny
"I don't know if the world is full of smart men bluffing
or imbeciles who mean it."

Write in Ron AND Gary Johnson for Veep

Proven Write Ins will FREE US from the Establishment's corrupt voting machines and we can actually WIN our R3volution! Instead of Gary Johnson OR Write in Ron - why not both? Ron Paul being cheated out of the "Republican" nomination is the second best thing that has happened for Liberty in America. The BEST thing is that Ron Paul is not on any ballots, but we can put him on and we can WIN.

But tomorrow, IX XI, let's stick it to the RINOs with huge re-registration.
http://dumpdumbo.blog.com/

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Satyam Eva Jayate!
Truth Alone Triumphs!

"We stand on the shoulders of giants"

To put it quite simply, I believe it to be most effective for us to remain in the GOP.

The Republican Party, like all parties and groups, is built upon the sweat and elbow grease of the grass roots, that which the GOP must alienate substantially to keep us from taking over. If we stay in the GOP, we will force them to make a decision, to either quit disenfranchising us and truly open to us, so that they may survive, or to stay closed, and ultimately undo all of the work that was required for them to become a mainstream party.

For the GOP, the best thing that could happen would be for us to leave them, because then they could return to openness without their corrupt leadership being purged. If we want to take them down, we must stick with them, and either drive them off the cliff and into the footnotes of history, or force them to hear our voices.

Ron Paul 2016

As long as our strategies are GOP-centric...

we will lose.

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

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My strategic vote is for the LP for ballot access, debates

When all is said and done, I want the campaign strategists inside both the RNC and DNC to see how popular liberty is, which is the main reason I'm voting for the Libertarian Party's candidate.

If I'm polled again, I'll say I'm voting for Gary Johnson to help him get into the debates. Too many voters don't even know they have a choice.

Because Ohio won't count write-ins for Ron Paul, I'm voting for the Libertarian candidate in November. Ohio (like almost all states) discriminates against third parties, and they have to earn a certain percentage of the vote to retain ballot access. So my vote will help the LP spend its money on voter education and outreach instead of lawyers.

I'd be very happy with Gary Johnson as President, though I don't think he'll be elected. I think the corruptocrats inside the GOP have guaranteed that we're going to get 4 more years of Obama.

End them all

Work on dismantling all of the parties. They're Irrelevant and have been proven to be powerless and also been proven to be corrupt and serve absolutely no purpose and have 0 value to the future of this country and the lives of the people. It's time to "End the Fed" but on a much larger and broader scale. All the Federal Government is anymore is a violent mob forcefully robbing us blind everyday.

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

Who is defecting?

I can't defect from the Republican Party, because I never belonged to the Republican Party. I voted in the Republican primary only because Ron Paul was on the ballot. The party means less than nothing to me. I never had a scintilla of loyalty to it, and I never will.

Exactly

I thought this was about individual liberty. All of the sudden it seams like I need to be a card carrying republican. GOP this and GOP that. Who gives a damn about the GOP? I am so sick of hearing about taking over the republicrats or taking over this or that. Whatever you want to do for individual liberty is fine. But as for me, I will never be a Republican.

KWB

Most of US held our noses and registered as "Republicans"

But I'm with you guys. The duopoly is dead. How about NO political parties as George Washington (allegedly) advocated? For those of us R3volutionaries who held our noses and registered as "Republican" so we could support Ron Paul in his stated quest for the Presidency, we can send the biggest "Up Yours!" to the RINO Establishment on the 11th anniversary of IX XI tomorrow - by voting with our feet and LEAVING the Republican party by re-registering.
http://dumpdumbo.blog.com/

Let's stay registered as ANYTHING BUT RINOS so we can Write in Ron on 11-6-12. Still plenty of time to get in Letters of Intent from Ron in the States that require that, but MANY if not MOST States have no requirement, and WE can write in Ron (and GJ for Veep) OUTSIDE of the crooked voting machines, and WE can WIN our peaceful R3volution.

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Satyam Eva Jayate!
Truth Alone Triumphs!

A large turnout for GJ equals Ross Perot part 2

People will blame Ron Paul for Obama winning just like they blamed Perot for Clinton winning.

I will say its a Democrats dream and establishment GOP dream to have Gary Johnson get some votes.

First, it helps Obama and Dems love that.

Two, the establishment picked a losing candidate in Romney, they know and will blame it on Paul supporters.

Dumb

We want them to blame us for

We want them to blame us for either their loss OR them barely winning. We want to destroy the theory that they don't need us.

With us they would either win instead of lose or win by a much larger and less risk-taking margin.

If they can't deny that they need us, they can't cheat or alienate.

Critical Thinking > Emotional Thinking > Pseudo-Intellectuals that Saturate DP
Utilitarianism > Consequentialism > Deontology > Egocentrism
Making people feel "troll'd" with the truth > being an intentional troll > acting like one naturally

Dumb

on the part of the republican party.

It's not our fault they picked Mitt Romney and snubbed Ron Paul. They made their bed, now they must lay in it.

Write-in votes count in my state, how about yours?

I'm not certain Robin has this correct, "in most states, such write-in votes would not be counted". There was a post here a number of months ago discussing this subject where someone had gone through the write-in laws state by state and listed the conditions for counting them. From memory I believe I counted 40 states where write-in could possibly be counted.

I know that, from time to time, people just say things they heard from someone else without checking the facts, maybe authors do that also.

Unfortunately it is very difficult to know who is correct or incorrect on this subject. If anyone knows the truth please post it.

Write in Ron and Right America!

This is from 2008 but still accurate in all the States I have checked (10?) Still plenty of time to get in Letters of Intent in the States that require them.
http://writein2008.blogspot.com/

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Satyam Eva Jayate!
Truth Alone Triumphs!

How...

How will paul supporters "take over" a GOP when it is a completely authoritarian organization controlled from the top down that has changed the rules to completely eliminate any chance that grassroots efforts even make it into the discussion?

We MUST show our unity/strength by voting for Gary Johnson

We must send a clear signal to the GOP that they messed up with the wrong set of people. And it won't be a bad choice anyway. Ryan is still fighting to increase 'defense' spending. Debt will increase under both -- Obama or Romney. So it's not our country will be worse under one more than the other.
If after going through all this abuse from the RNC, if we still vote for Romney, it'd be a slap in the face of Dr Paul.

Gary Johnson is a sane choice and a very nice alternative for (disgruntled) people like me.

NYSTROM----beginning to think you are behind

all the Gary Johnson diatribe...

He's behind all the Ron Paul

He's behind all the Ron Paul diatribe here. Why wouldn't he back Johnson now?

objection: leading

... the use of the word "defectors" implies a negative connotation to my vocal advocacy that we ALL immediately LEAVE THE GOP. I am merely behaving as anyone who has been betrayed, stepped on, cheated, lied to, defrauded, or otherwise ripped-off of their Federally-protected voting rights should and creating painful-as-possible BLOWBACK to teach these motherfucvkers a little lesson. THAT'S what people with good solid backbone do.

recommended viewing:

The Outlaw Josie Wales
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075029/

YES! YES! YES!

Everyone out of the STINKING GOP TOMORROW the 11th Anniversary of IX XI
http://dumpdumbo.blog.com/

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Satyam Eva Jayate!
Truth Alone Triumphs!

Smack

As a simple matter of political strategy, Paul supporters should vote for somebody other than Romney in the general election. When you are dissed, you have to smack them between the eyes. It's as simple as that.

Of course, that doesn't change the overall strategy of getting liberty candidates elected to office within the GOP, with an eye towards eventually taking the party over. These efforts should continue.

The only kind of "respect" the establishment hacks know is grounded in fear. Send Romney down in flames, and they will show a little more respect next time.

MICHAEL NYSTROM----please remove this from the FRONT page

I'm sick of seeing it, and if I'm sick, you KNOW others are, too!

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cepivon. I am impressed with this post :-)

FAR from being sick of it. I think I understand your perspective, too, of wanting to hole up in a cozy silky pure RonPaul alcove, but why not exercise our liberty generosity in allowing ALL possible ways to promote our basic causes. . .

Calling BS on the statistics.

Calling BS on the statistics. I wasn't asked.

Ron Paul or none at all.

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.

www.simplefactsplainarguments.com

"DON'T BLAME ME, I VOTED FOR RON PAUL"

This is simply making mountains out of mole hills, and in reality a non issue. While there will certainly be puritans that can never register Republican after the treatment of a legitimate grass roots effort, the reality is it is the best way to hit the RNC and GOP where it hurts. Changing parties is not like herpes, you can go back after you leave, but the most symbolic thing we could do is plan a mass evacuation day for all Liberty lovers to leave the party (even if you rejoin the next day), it would send a shock wave when 10's of thousands went and changed their registrations to Indy. I posted this idea and was attacked ferociously because the first response was "what about all the GOP liberty candidates running that we wont be able to vote for"? And to that I responded that they could simply change parties again, in my state at least it is free to do so, and in states where they made it difficult to change affiliation I recommended those people stay in the GOP as to not burden themselves with peaceful protest that the media would lap up like a honey bee to mountain dew. I certainly plan to start advertising this idea before the election once again, and see if people can leave their emotions aside to slap the GOP one good time, and if they try and blame the Ron Paul crowd for a Romney loss we can all sit back and laugh at their faces and tell them that they ran us off and did not want us lowly Libertarians in their little game of who can destroy a nation the fastest.

If we set a date, contact all Liberal media concerning our leaving of the party, and then in unison we remove our support from the GOP, name it the GOP wins, Ron Paul followers leave the party, and best of luck, day!
There is nothing a politician fears worse then to be out of politics and earn a living based on hard work, for them it is the epitome of Hell, and having to follow all of the corrupt laws they created for the lesser's to follow now pertain to them. So it only makes sense to leave the GOP if only for a short period, to one last time in the name of Ron Paul, peacefully spitting in the eye of the corrupt machine, what a pleasure it would be to see Maddow and others report on the GOP running off their strongest grass roots support in 50 years.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an