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Are Ron Paul supporters even welcome on the Daily Paul anymore?

Guess we who still support Ron are just Paultards and should get kicked out for being stuck in the past forever. I mean, what is not preventing this from becoming LP Redstate? Nothing really. It used to be the 'inspired by Ron Paul' tag at the top of the homepage. This was our center. This gave the Daily Paul a spirit, but now, it lacks that spirit.

That is what comments and posts are indicating. Heck, even the 'call to unity' thread tells us to STFU on disagreeing/critiquing Johnson, and his supporters' less than subtle attempts to sell of him on the Daily PAUL. No debating allowed for us. We Ron Paul supporters should sit in the corner with dunce hats on. The LP guys are way to smart for us.

Also, some of these Johnsonites have delusions of grandure thinking that Johnson can actually win. If it was that easy, Ron would of done that ages ago.

I took a break from the DP for a while, only to come back finding it even worse.

Thanks to Anna4RonPaul/Katniss Everdeen for her brave thread:

http://www.dailypaul.com/253522/the-ron-paul-picture-is-gone

When a 15 year old girl has more balls than the Daily Paul staff, you know something is wrong. Just saying.

Tell me what you all think. Should us Ron Paul fans leave where we are unwelcome, should we fight? I do not have an answer for this. I am looking for a solution.

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So did you get into this just

So did you get into this just for Ron Paul or for liberty? Ron Paul will be forever A great champion Hero and Icon for liberty to us all. The Board is named after him for pete sake and will memorialize him as long as it is on the internet.

He Paved the way for Gary Johnson and those who will come after him. Gary Johnson is a Ron Paul supporter too. Who else is on the Ballot in all 50 states that we can get behind?

As Ron Paul has continually said it is not about him its about the liberty movement. He is no longer a candidate and would probably like to retire and deserves it. We can Honor him by continuing the fight with Candidates like Gary Johnson and other freedom fighters.

Maybe its your spirit that is gone from here and not the boards? I felt kind of like you at first and was leary of Gary. But I listened to his speeches and looked at his track record. And Honestly he is great and a natural torch bearer to follow Ron Paul. I could not find anything about him that I would not prefer him by a long shot as president over the big two puppets. I am beginning to think the hate and smears are plants in the movement spreading crap about him that just is not true.

I honor Ron Paul by supporting Gary as the only Liberty candidate on all 50 Ballots. He can win if we can create a ground swell of support. it is already building we just need to push aside the negative thoughts and see every obstacle as a stepping stone to get us closer to our goal.

Getting any 3rd party candidate elected would be a huge accomplishment much less one that espouses liberty as we and Ron Paul do such as Gary Johnson.

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Katniss Everdeen doesn't vote.

She kills aggressors.

I love Ron Paul. I voted for Ron Paul. He is the man who changed my life.

I will move on from Ron Paul and experience Liberty in my own way. That is what the DP should proposse. RP wants us to think for ourselves and learn what we can about freedom, austrian economics, and peace.

I suspect there will be many Katnisses in the future, who sling arrows and wonder why they can't just live their lives. That's kinda sad.

read books. get smart. ignore gov't.

That's the future.
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This isn't called the Daily Johnson....

this is the Daily Paul and like I have told people I'm thankful there are more choices but this person is writing-in Ron Paul.

I am on twitter and find it ironic I get other "Ron Paul" supporters challenging me to unite behind GJ, obviously they have ignored the whole individual liberty thing from Ron Paul's campaign.

I will only vote for Ron Paul, he is the BEST person that represents me.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”
John Q.Adams

"Fairy tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."
— G.K. Chesterton

Johnson is a closet Neocon

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Release the Sandy Hook video.

I'm a Ron Paul supporter.

Just because I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson doesn't mean I don't still support Ron Paul. I'm not running or feel dissed by anyone on this site. Post as you like. Back in 2008 we didn't hear this because people were backing Barr or Baldwin.

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Wait...Aren't Gary's supporters mostly Ron Paul Supporters?

????? This is another misleading thread trying to classify all Johnson supporters as Ron Paul haters.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
http://www.thethirdangelsmessage.com/wordpress/should-christ...

He guys, not trying to spam, but I want people to read this

I guess without it being a post that disappears into oblivion because those supporters who are maybe questionable will see it and down vote it, BUt I think this is important. Thank you. AND please continue to pray for our good friend and National Nevada Delegate Jim Uprichard, he has a ways to go, but they are working.

Can you please give us hard-core Ron Paul supporters a break because we are just getting our people back from Tampa, strategizing for what is next, and knowing we are not attending a funeral for Ron Paul, he still has a pulse and his body is still very warm before continually posting this stuff on here? I believe in freedom, but it does come with responsibility and consequences. I would think that most of you would think before you jump on the GJ bandwagon and tell all of us what "we need to be doing."

We are hearing this repeatedly, but none of us go off willy-nilly to support a candidate. Did you not see us in Tampa? This is not a fly by night deal, this is our life and our lifestyle.

People are needing time to think, research, pray, take a break and a breath. This is not an easy decision and all these ideas have been literally thrown at us:

1) Vote for Obama it will sink Romney and he can pay for what he did to us and this way we only have 4 more years
2) Vote for GJ it will show we are not fringe
3) Vote for Romney because we need to take Obama down at all cost because he is the worst president in history
4) WRITE-IN Ron Paul in all the states he takes write-in, it will show we are not fringe and we can sleep well at night
5) Talk to the electorate because they are what really matter

We have a lot to think about. It does not help getting GJ shoved down our throats. I trust that we will do the research and our due dillegence and will choose together the right avenue to take. What do you do if you are on fire, you stop, drop, and roll. If we just run off in one direction the fire may spread rapidly and we will go up in flames, burn ourselves to death. Noone wants this. We want to make the best moves possible for the long haul, the joining of others, and to not divide all the work we have put in for so many years. We want to continue to grow and wake up more of our country to the idea of freedom and what it really means. We do not want to self-implode. We will take the time we need, but we are not hastily going to support GJ without all the research. AND or that matter we are not going to jump ship in support of Romney or Obama without thinking this all thoroughly through.

I will work tirelessly on the write-in campaign if it furthers the liberty movement. the jury is still out for me. Sure it would be easier to walk in and put my name on the ballot for one of the above, BUT I personally have a lot to think about and will not make my decision in haste.

How many threads are you going to cross post this in?

I mean, you're complaining about people "shoving things down your throat"....

As has been noted, nearly everyone leaning toward Johnson is a Ron Paul backer. We need to get on with the process of deciding how best to make an impact in 2012, and right now Johnson has gained the most traction as a rallying point since he is, after all, actually running a campaign, appearing in polls, running ads, etc.

I am a Ron Paul Supporter and will be my entire life!

And I feel welcome here. Why wouldn't you? I see the same posts you see. Perhaps I feel more comfortable with the fact that my new goal is to keep waking people up and discussing the ideas of monetary policy, the fed and individual liberty.
I personally would not have had the patience Mr Nystrom has had keeping this site alive! I applaud him!
I discovered Ron Paul in 2005 while reading some of his Letters like "House of Cards" and I thought oh my god! A Congress person speaking the truth. I was hooked. I watched as he had to be convinced to run in 2007, then I hit the streets and handed out flyers and talked to anyone who would listen, only to end up in tears at the thought that this man couldn't be understood by 95% of the rest of the country. I have loved reading this site since it's inception. I didn't join right away, because that is who I am. I don't put myself out there for anyone right away.
But I would have to say I still don't feel any more welcome on a web site, than here!

John in Michigan

The answer is no.

Any Ron Paul supporter gets downvoted by the swarms of Rand and Gary Johnson trolls who have infested this website. Pretty sad.

I don't play, I commission the league.

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Chill out

The election is about a month and a half away. When Gary Johnson does not become the president, the Gary Johnson onslaught will vaporize instantaneously.

Besides, we Ron Paul supporters did the very same thing promoting our man all over the web for FIVE YEARS instead of a couple months.

Ron Paul - Teacher and Leader - But No Longer a Candidate

We can still learn from Ron Paul but unfortunately his is no longer a candidate. I really wish he was the nominee, but he is not.

I really do not understand why there is such anger when people say they are going to vote for Gary Johnson.

Are we trying to promote the cause of liberty or not?

Ron Paul ran as a Republican to work with in the system and get the message out. Obviously, he does not agree with a majority of the Republican policies but it was easier to get in front of more people than by running 3rd party.

Now that Ron Paul is no longer a candidate, we can still work in the system and make our voices heard by voting libertarian. Gary Johnson is not Ron Paul, but of the three candidates, who's message is "Live Free"? It's not Obama or Romney.

Ron Paul is still a write-in candidate in the states where it

will count. You Johnsonites are hurting him by disrupting a website which is devoted to this task, and you are in fact shilling for a competing candidate.

That's right we can't win. Neither can Gary Johnson. Standing up for the candidate whose name this website bears is not "splitting the liberty vote."

The one thing I can say for the Greens, who can't win either, is that their code demands mutual respect and they would never behave as you Johnsonites have. Those socialists are better than you are.

"States where no declaration needed from Dr. Paul to write-in and have vote counted: AL, IA, WI, PA, CA, VT, NH, DE"

http://www.dailypaul.com/254109/states-where-no-declaration-...

Release the Sandy Hook video.

I think the fact that our candidate still has a pulse and his

body is still warm, it is just disgusting how they have jumped on here and promoted Gary. We are still reeling from Tampa, still trying to get our National delegates back safely and i or one am trying to help one that is fighting for his life. This is a lifestyle for me, this is not just a fly by night thing. WE need to put some real thought into the next steps and strategy. If GJ is the way we decide to go after careful thought and consideration and research, that is fine, BUT I am with you. People on here please be more respectful to Ron Paul. Please realize he is NOT 6 feet under. We can probably send a very successful message with a write-in campaign in several states, maybe not ALL of them, BUT several of them and those states will sleep well at night knowing they voted for the one true Constitutional, liberty, freedom, and WE THE PEOPLE man.

President Paul 2012

Gee, I am starting to enter the fray ... lol

I understand those wanting to promote Johnson. However, I am curious of how many have worked the GOP/Republican party? You know, in the trenches doing the dirty work?

I can understand those who had worked it years ago, and left to go independent or in the libertarian party.

But currently, there is reinforcements in the ranks. We have states. Now is the time to get into the Republican party and kick some butt.

At the same time a parallel strategy is moved forward.

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Write ins for Paul, where those votes count, is still strategy. I will be using it in the future as a tool to push the GOP where I/we want them to go. Don't think we can't? Already have, locally.

Maybe those that have not worked the party do not have experience with strategic plays and gaining cards for future play. I don't know. But I have learned to not pass up picking up a card for future use.

Countable write-ins for Dr. Paul is a future card to play. It is more than just a stat. Ron Paul association has power.

Absolutely we do. I think we have to take a breath and

smartly figure this out, the best way to strategize and pull together this movement, make it stronger. Here is what i posted elsewhere:

Can you please give us hard-core Ron Paul supporters a break because we are just getting our people back from Tampa, strategizing for what is next, and knowing we are not attending a funeral for Ron Paul, he still has a pulse and his body is still very warm before continually posting this stuff on here? I believe in freedom, but it does come with responsibility and consequences. I would think that most of you would think before you jump on the GJ bandwagon and tell all of us what "we need to be doing."

We are hearing this repeatedly, but none of us go off willy-nilly to support a candidate. Did you not see us in Tampa? This is not a fly by night deal, this is our life and our lifestyle.

People are needing time to think, research, pray, take a break and a breath. This is not an easy decision and all these ideas have been literally thrown at us:

1) Vote for Obama it will sink Romney and he can pay for what he did to us and this way we only have 4 more years
2) Vote for GJ it will show we are not fringe
3) Vote for Romney because we need to take Obama down at all cost because he is the worst president in history
4) WRITE-IN Ron Paul in all the states he takes write-in, it will show we are not fringe and we can sleep well at night
5) Talk to the electorate because they are what really matter

We have a lot to think about. It does not help getting GJ shoved down our throats. I trust that we will do the research and our due dillegence and will choose together the right avenue to take. What do you do if you are on fire, you stop, drop, and roll. If we just run off in one direction the fire may spread rapidly and we will go up in flames, burn ourselves to death. Noone wants this. We want to make the best moves possible for the long haul, the joining of others, and to not divide all the work we have put in for so many years. We want to continue to grow and wake up more of our country to the idea of freedom and what it really means. We do not want to self-implode. We will take the time we need, but we are not hastily going to support GJ without all the research. AND or that matter we are not going to jump ship in support of Romney or Obama without thinking this all thoroughly through.

I will work tirelessly on the write-in campaign if it furthers the liberty movement. the jury is still out for me. Sure it would be easier to walk in and put my name on the ballot for one of the above, BUT I personally have a lot to think about and will not make my decision in haste.

Welcome?

Dont know what you mean by welcome. Never has any reason to feel that I was not in the right place to learn about Dr Paul and his events updates etc.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

I have never felt unwelcome.

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It is kind of funny that YOU are the one

accusing others of being arrogant and prohibiting dissent. I am a Ron Paul supporter and I have been since 2007 when I first heard of him. You do not get to decide that I don't support him because I don't support your delusions.

Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both

100% Ron Paul supporter here..

I don't plan on leaving.

my2cents

www.youtube.com/truefictions

I try to change people every day. Do You?

Funny thing

I posted this earlier on a another thread:

I don't recall all these LP types hanging around here when Ron Paul was running, and needed their votes.

It's kinda funny how they all just suddenly showed up now asking for our support to elect a libertarian.

You guys already had a shot at electing a libertarian this year, where were you?

If you are an LP member that has been on board with us here at the Daily Paul during the campaign, don't worry I am not talking about you.

I'm talking about the dozens of brand new accounts that popped up, as soon as the race ended.

I'm talking about the CATO and Reason types that sat by on the sidelines and threw mud at us the whole way 07-12.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Ron Paul Revolutionary since 2007

I have not forgotten the vitriol spewed and obstacles thrown in our way by CATO, Reason, and the other Kochtopus operations.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

You are welcome to check my account to see how long

I have been around. I was quiet during this last campaign because I had already seen the futility of trying to work within the GOP and because just being with those neocons made me feel dirty. I didn't post because anything I said would be discouraging to that effort and that was the effort that the liberty movement consensus had decided on.

I began posting again after the convention when it should have been clear what the GOP is and will continue to be. We are moving towards a new consensus. Everyone will choose their own path but the only way to be effective is to act together. I can understand if you don't support GJ or the Libertarian party. I could not support the GOP after what I saw and heard there (As a delegate to the Texas State Convention). This does not give you leave to question me or my commitment though.

Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both

I'm a Ron Paul Supporter.

Have been for a long time. Will remain one. Just because I'm from Indiana and Ron Paul has to place his name in as a write in candidate which it looks like it is not going to happen. I will be voting for Gary Johnson.
I will vote for the most closet to my views. I'm not going to sit home, not voting. I'm not going to write in Ron Paul and it not be counted.
I wish these posts like this would cease. No one is taking over this site.
We are working for the future of Liberty. If Ron Paul seeks the nomination in 2012. My support will be there. I expect many on here to do the same. If he doesn't. We will have to look for an alternative to replace him. I hoping there is such an animal. Rand to me looks like he is slipping into the establishments web. I hope that is not the case. I think he is thinking because he supports Romney and bends. They will do the same. RAND they never bend! They compromise to their benefit! (ALWAYS). Maybe you will see the light and follow in the footsteps of your father. We will see.
Are there any other Pauls that have a twinkle in there eye to enter the political arena? Just asking because we need someone that will stand firm against the devil. What about Joe Miller from Alaska? Wonder about how he would rate in our eyes if he came onto the nation stage. Just asking... don't chew me out. :)

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You said

"Also, some of these Johnsonites have delusions of grandure thinking that Johnson can actually win. If it was that easy, Ron would of done that ages ago." Isn't that what the entire establishment and so many others were saying about us when we were fighting so hard for Ron Paul? If Ron Paul won it wouldn't be him winning it would be us the People. So can't the same be said for Gary Johnson? Sure he is no Ron Paul but he is for Liberty and small government; what we stand for. Do you really think that if Gary got elected then Ron Paul would not be in his cabinet? I think he would be in a very powerful position; my choice would be either Secretary of State or of Defense.

Anyway I think the problem on the Daily Paul is that we keep bashing each other; while we are supposed to be fighting and planning for liberty. I don't care how you vote but I am voting for Johnson cause by my research he seems like he will be a good President. I will talk about him but I don't want to fight with fellow liberty lovers over Johnson. All I want is everyone to vote against the 2 party system and show them that their reign of terror is over. Let's give them their grassroots "blowback" by voting outside of the Republicans and Democrats, but do vote on principal; not just anyone. After November 6th we can continue the takeover of the Republicans but I honestly think that we should let them crash and burn. In 2014 we fill the house and Senate with liberty minded people that have principals and won't be bought.

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our Liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

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Folks, I don't want to spam,

Folks, I don't want to spam, but this NEEDS traction :

http://www.dailypaul.com/254115/libertypulseus-let-the-world...

Please JOIN the effort,

for Liberty !

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

LOL they are welcome as long as they STFU about Ron Paul

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