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The Scariest Story You'll Read Today

I know your blood will boil after reading this nonsense

http://www.thedailymail.net/articles/2012/09/08/news/doc504a...




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In Michigan

community service requirements are common for graduation. My own school requires 40 hours and students who fail to complete those 40 hours are not permitted to walk across the stage and get their diplomas (though they are still given them)

Many hours are given for participating in school functions (act prep classes after school, the Senior Citizen prom, etc. )

~Chills

commonplace

The use inmates for community service has a long and celebrated history.

I thought this was the scariest.

But I could not get it to stay bumped up.

http://www.dailypaul.com/254703/funvacc-vaccine-to-eliminate...

looks like its time for some

looks like its time for some Ron Paul followers to run for the school board. Sounds like the current ones are socialists and do not understand the concept of freedom

Rahm Emanuel and 'The Plan' ...

I realize that your post is about mandatory community service in school, but it falls right in line with this mindset of involuntary servitude that was proposed by Rahm Emanuel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3CHKm9ZuY

From interview with Rahm Emanuel about his call for mandatory universal citizen service that he proposes in his book 'The Plan' ...

"Citizenship is not an entitlement program. It comes with responsibilities. Everybody somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25 will serve 3 months of basic training and understanding in a kind of civil defense. That universal sense of service, somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25, will give Americans once again a sense of what they are to be American and their contribution to a country and a common experience..."

"This is not a draft. It's a universal service."

Interviewer: So is this compulsory then?

Emanuel: Well you have to... uh.. in the sense that it's required of everyody 18 to 25, 3 months...

Here's a rant about public education in general....

There are two kinds of socialists: revolutionary and gradualist. The former want to create a socialist society immediately, which requires violent revolution: National Socialists, Bolsheviks, Maoists, Khmer Rouge, etc. The latter want to use the existing State to gradually push society toward socialism. In the United States and the West in general, the socialists who are our rulers are gradualists. Public education is essential for their strategy to succeed, it may be the single most important tool at the disposal of gradualist socialists.

The vast majority of people who ever lived prior to the 20th century were educated by their parents. This kind of education is essentially static. There isn't much innovation, and so there's significant stability of beliefs and opinions down through the ages. With the advent of public education, the link between parent and child was broken, and the State took over the education of children. Since then it has been possible for the State to gradually alter the common beliefs and opinions prevailing in society. They don't need to change everyone's views immediately through propaganda. They can bring each generation a little closer to the ideal Socialist Man they want to breed. The movements toward socialism are planned in advance by all the think tanks we're familiar with. The curriculum of the public schools corresponds with planned changed in society, such that the world-view which the current class of 5th graders are going to be given over the course of their many years in public schools will match the world which the social engineers will have brought into being by the time those 5th graders reach adulthood. That's the idea anyway, and it seems to me that it's pretty successful.

An interesting thing is the decline in outright "hard" propaganda and authoritarianism. The socialist regimes, including the more moderate socialist regimes in the West, during the early 20th century used fairly crude and obvious propaganda, and openly brutal methods to get compliance form the population. This is no longer the norm, which has led led commentators to believe that we are living in an area of decreased influence of the State on public opinion. Nothing could be further from the truth. Socialists in the early 20th century were employing the methods that are required to get compliance from adults who have been raised and educated by their parents. In the later 20th century and certainly in this century, States are no longer faced with such independent-minded people. Essentially everyone living today is a product of public education. Much less forceful propaganda and much more infrequent resort to actual violence is required to get compliance from these people, whose basic worldview was designed by the State specifically to render them docile and obedient to the State, and to get them ready for what the State had planned for them.

That the State's power is enormously augmented when they can shape the minds of children before those children become the adults which the State rules is such an obviously true statement, but it seems to go by unnoticed. I think some of this can be explained by a severe shortage of historical knowledge; i.e. people would perhaps notice how massive the impact of public education is on the society in which they live if they realized that public education is a totally new phenomenon in human history, and that before the advent of public education, it was an essential component in the plans of every totalitarian movement of every denomination going back to the very first utopian socialist: Plato.

...as far as this article, it doesn't surprise me in the least. The State brought the language of "community service" into existence decades ago, and it has become part of our culture. The fact that people know what community service is, and use that phrase, and find it unremarkable, shows you the power which the State already has over the minds of the people. The few who do object are placated by articles like this, which present the illusion of an ongoing debate: as if it's up in the air whether community service initiatives likes this will continue, when in fact it's already a done deal. It was a done deal when the people who are currently in a position as adults to object to such measures were enrolled as students in the public school system.

In a sense, we live in the past - if you follow my meaning.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

It's all about whether it's

It's all about whether it's voluntary (great!) or required (immoral).

Too bad most folks don't make the distinction.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

People are confused about the word "volunteer"

As in voluntary.

I'm getting to a point where

I'm getting to a point where I don't feel sorry for anyone's sad story of tyranny anymore. Most people are perfectly fine with the status quo, until it affects THEM. And so, screw them. Can't say if that's the case here, but whatever. I think people should withdraw and/or break the law. If that's too scary, then they're not ready for a serious discussion anyway.

ok...

Up until I read about it here I thought the community service idea was a great idea because it put kids out of their own narrow worlds and into someone else's. If it's a "bad" idea then would a "good" idea be if parents did this on their own to teach children about helping others? I kinda feel most parents wouldn't take the time or effort... educate me?

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

All children...

must be properly trained for slavery so they can operate effectively in the 'goulags' when they grow up. Homeschooling is the answer. Eff the school board.

Rosa Koire describes this type

of volunteerism as a product of Asset Based Community Development (ABCD), where you are the asset. She warns of it in her book, Behind the Green Mask.

If the government can make you pay a penalty for not purchasing health care, can it also make you do the same with "volunteering?"

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Answer is "yes". And that's called :

Answer is "yes".

And that's called : Fascism.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Come on, change the title of the post...

Tell us what it is.

I read a much more scary story today and it was written by my 8 year old.

Really, it was very, very scary.

LOL

LOL

Isn't that like this from 2009:

The bill, HR 1388: The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, otherwise known as the “GIVE Act,” has already passed the House by a vote of 321-105.

http://www.wnd.com/2009/03/92902/

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Ask not what your country can do for you

but what you can do for your country. I thought everyone loved this kind of socialist crap.

So, then, don't

enroll your kids in the government schools. This is just the latest outrage in 150 years of outrages.

This is a requirement in Scotland's elite schools.

It is part of the curriculum like P.E. or Sports. There are choices I believe as to which activity you want to get involved with. It is seen as being necessary to develop a public spirited individual who sees public service as a civic duty. It leads to voluntarism after school is finished but it is compulsory while in school. This is very much in the British ruling class tradition.

These boys and girls are the future leaders of the nation who will go on to the Oxbridge and top Scottish universities and take up posts in politics and the civil service rising to be senior mandarins and Cabinet members in the government.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

And they MUST wear BROWN shirts !!

just sayin

A patriot must always be prepared to defend his country from his government.

Actually, the requirement is

no more evil than any other requirement for graduation in our "public" schools. The evil comes from government involvement in education. The action of trying to mold our children into "good" citizens will always be corrupted into trying to mold our children into subservient citizens.

A requirement like this would make more sense in a voluntary (private) school. At least then you have a choice of what school to attend.

I

doubt the goal is to make them better citizens. I'd even go as far as forced political servants.

I guess what I meant was that

the supposed effort to make them "good" citizens was just a cover for encouraging subservience. You are absolutely right. Have you read some of the writings of some of the founders of American "public" education? It was clearly and boldly stated by many of them that they wished to instill devotion to the state as their primary motive. Not even really a "conspiracy," it was all out in the open.

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so scary I can't even hint at what it is in the title!

on the chance it'll scare you away! WAAAAaaaaaaAAaaa!

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