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MSNBC Talks About Obama Murdering American Citizens with Drone Strikes

Up with Chris Hayes | Aired on September 09, 2012

Drone strikes, jingoism, and revisionism at the DNC
The Nation’s Jeremy Scahill asks when the President will explain the drone strikes in the much-needed conversation about national security that needs to happen during the general election.



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Should we use drones on Sharks?

I mean, after all....your odds of being attacked by a shark are greater than beign harmed by a terrorist.

Oh the power of the media to distort.

these idiots.

The only reason the gov is pretending iran is off the table is because its an election year

This needs to be repeated

This needs to be repeated over and over again to get it through peoples heads.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

scahill = antiwar hero

Screw msdnc. Nullification of them and their warmonger buddies at fox is well on its way.

Interesting that this is

being allowed to air.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Shes right

It would be "political malpractice to be honest with voters during such an important election.". Look what happened to our guy.

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

Bump Chuck Todd discusses

Drones on his show!

We are screwed

So this is what you get, if obama gets 4 more years to "have more flexability" once you go third party to get him elected? Crazy stuff.
You want obama? What are you all thinking? Spiteful stuff huh?
Vengeance for being punked in the primary is juvenile and will not be "for the good of all" or anything like liberty. I think Ron Paul would advise against going third party..Heed.

Keepin' it real.

None of us want Obama as our next President.

None of us want Romney as our next President. Think of it like "Non-Intervention": we'll leave it in God's hands who "lives" and who "dies" (politically). We'll keep our own hands clean. That way, none of us will be guilty of endorsing a great evil.

Teafortwo, even though you have been a member of this site for barely five months, I am not going to accuse you of being a troll. I do wonder, however, whether or not you are in the right place. If you actually think Romney winning is guaranteed to be better than Obama winning, when BOTH of them are duplicitous, pandering, smooth-talking, politicians, the evil of whose future actions in office nobody can accurately predict (except that it would be massive for either), shouldn't you be on redstate.com?

Romney win is WAY better than Obama

Why do you dismiss all the GOP committee seats we have occupied? The RNC should have been our battle cry to take those committee seats, not run.

The GOP GAINED hundreds of new committee seats because of OUR efforts FOR Ron Paul. It's one thing when they steal the nomination, but it's quite another when we allow them to take OUR SEATS!

It's NOT about Romney. It's about US!

Romney probably won't hit us with drones and throw us in

concentration camps. That's main the difference between Obama and Romney. I live in Florida, a key swing state. As much as I detest Romney, I have to consider voting for him just to stop Obama. I'm really not sure yet. It pisses me off what he did to us and Ron Paul.

Ann in Florida

I agree

Romney has to answer to us, tea party and Palinites who are stealing our seats. Everyone in the GOP saw what Romney did and the majority are NOT impressed, and still he bneats Obama. It's mind blowing.


I'm going to go ahead and say false. No difference here. Romney is just as much of a "go protect the world by bombing people" supporter as Obama is. There are reasons to support Romney over Obama, but this surely isn't one of them.

Eric Hoffer

There's a HUGE Diff

Why do you underestimete the power of the committees and officers.. What Romney did was proove we don't have enoiugh people seated. Get a seat.

On foreign policy?

Look Granger, I've got no problems admitting I prefer Romney to Obama in general. You know that.

However, you want to talk about his foreign policy? Absolutely not. You think he's going to break from a Neoconservative foreign policy? Come on now, get real here. We already know how much he loves the War with Iran plans.

Committees don't decide when to drop bombs once the guy is in office. They help decide who gets in to office. I agree with your statements here, but I'll absolutely disagree in the thinking that he's going to have a recognizable difference in foreign policy.

If you disagree with me there, I'd love to hear on what point.

Eric Hoffer

It's an inside battle concerning the GOP

And it's better to have an inside battle that enables us to have our vetted issues going to the top, than going into the "When you reach the top" pile.

It's a global battle concerning the USA and our foreign policy, which our pressure to Restore Aemrica to constitutional government can help.

While there are things we will have little control over, such as foreign policy, we can still write resolutions or advance inniatives that will give Romney a message to change foreign policy, that we won't reach with Obama, who has a very simular foreign policy.

Meanwhile, we will be empowered in our counties and states, and so our networking is very important. Ron Paul will be there for those of us in the GOP, so we have a speaker, who would relish the opportunity.

Least we forget, no one on my committee wanted Romney.

I said Romney probably won't hit US (Americans) with drones.

He LOVES it when drones hit people in OTHER countries. Use of drones to target our enemies is one of the things he admires most about Obama. I read that in the paper today. God help us.

Maybe I'll just not vote at all, for the first time ever.

Ann in Florida


Vote GARY JOHNSON and give liberty and RON PAUL's movement a chance


GJ is going to dump your butt after NOV. He's a NWO cog running for those who don't understand Ron Paul, are immature and too afraid to get a committee seat and actually get in the game.


That's what a protest vote is Granger, you know that.

A vote for the LP gives a statistical example to the GOP over how many votes were lost by both the major parties. The larger the number, the more unrest they have within the party ranks.

If you aren't going to get a committee seat, for whatever the reason, a vote for the LP this go around is your best option in my opinion. It sends the stark clear message to the GOP that they need to embrace Ron Paul Republicans, or they won't see the votes in the swing states where they need them.

However, now is CERTAINLY the time to get involved in your local GOP and start showing up. Get yourself on committees, etc. However, that doesn't mean it's wrong to vote for the best candidate on the ballot as a protest. Abnormally high numbers for the LP send a definite message in after an election.

Eric Hoffer

It's a protest vote that defaults for Obama

I would have no problem with such a protest vote if I didn't know there were Ron Paul Republicans on committees and in offices who NEED support, as they are up against great odds.

This protest vote is not a good idea becasue it's destrioying all the work we did. We've gained committee seats.. get them! Protesting is throwing all our work away.

To actually protest, we should be cramming those committees. I wrote a post offering an invitation for people to come to the committees and TELL THEM. File complaints, get seats, push within your party.

GJ is a Republican who is giving those who don't get it a protest vote. We don't need to protest, to react.. but to flood the committees.. those committees should be crammed full of Ron Paul Republicans and guest telling them to their faces how unconstitutional, broken rules.. They would get the message if you cam to the meeting and told thm. This protest vote is a default for Obama. It's a set up, and a shame.

Granger is somewhat correct.

If possible, get seats. If not, then there are many other things that must be done that are as effective.

One of the twins will steal the election. Make your "protest" vote count. But make it count for YOU.

Ron Paul 2012. By write-in.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

If not possible

Keep showing up.. I showed up as a "guest" AKA pest for a year. I ttok my own roll call. Whan a member missed three consecutive meetings, I asked to replace them. The chair threeatened to resign.. I got appointed a seat, my elected seat starts in January. The GOP just added thousands of new seats because Ron Paul's Republican enrollment.. Palin's peepe are stealing OUR seats.

Write-in is running away. You want to protest? Do this http://www.dailypaul.com/253034/how-to-deliver-the-gop-your-...

"Somewhat" correct again.

You are correct pertaining to the meetings. Keeping in mind that there are also other things that are necessary to do.

Write-in is NOT running away. Voting one of the two endorses one of the two.

Stand fast and exorcise YOUR right to vote and never vote against your conscience. Once we convince ALL citizens that this must be done, we we then realize positive results for our nation.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Youre vote defaults FOR Obama

Who do you think is going to look at your write in vote and do anything?


And that is what counts :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

And I thought I was selfish

At least I'm voting FOR Ron Paul RepubliCANs, which includes me.

The ONLY thing...

that Romney has going for him IS Obama. And the only thing going for Obama IS ... you guessed it...Mitt-Witt.


Did you watch part 2, where

Did you watch part 2, where some of these talking heads are discussing how they do not trust Romney with the power to kill those on the hit list. What?!? NOBODY should be trusted with that kind of power.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle


I couldn't find a part 2.

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