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POLL: What is the #1 Reason You won't Vote for Gary Johnson?

POLL: What is the most important reason you won't vote for Gary Johnson?

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Don't think he would really

Abolish the federal reserve bank, possibly exposing them for crimes and sentencing punishments.

Don't really think he would bring our troops home and/or go after war criminals.

He is a Fraud.

He is a Fraud.

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Foreign policy.

Foreign policy.

The Revolution Continues..

wrong question

"why don't you feel passionate about gary johnson" is much more relevant

I'm Canadian....

sooooo.......

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I only have 1 reason

... because I'm writing in Dr. Ron Paul

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Wow nice well thought out

Wow nice well thought out reasoning. I bet that will advance liberty rather then vote for the guy who will cut spending end the wars and bring the troops home and is actually on the ballot and running...

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It will probably help more

It will probably help more than your condescending attitude will. Let people do what they want to do.

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That was only a slogan to

That was only a slogan to ramp up everyone's conviction to the cause. It wasn't an actual pledge of loyalty to a vote.

Paul himself wouldn't want you to write him-in. It's unproductive and only serves to make you feel good about yourself which pales to the many positive things that would happen for the country and liberty movememnt with supporting Johnson and voting for him... and those things would still happen even if he didn't win.

Do you honestly think Paul would write himself in?

Do you honestly think he would want anyone else to?

"Vote your conscience" doesn't mean throw out critical thinking from the equation.

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Lesser of Three Evils?

F_ off troll.

Your exaggeration of how bad

Your exaggeration of how bad Gary Johnson is when he's a DRASTIC improvement over the status-quo (Paul wouldn't say great things about him if he wasn't) is your way of influencing your own conscience into staying with your original decision to write-in Paul.

Are you really trying to imply that he wouldn't be a drastic improvement if he were president?

I'm not a troll... you just feel trolled because you don't like hearing the truth and calling me a troll with an easy assumption your simplistic and emotional thinking creates allows you to justify discrediting me when in reality... I've said only facts and aside from fallacies you create to stay ignorant to what you don't want to acknowledge... you don't have an evidence to show that I'm a "troll" that would stand up to scrutiny.... just assumptions and your inevitable excuses.

Now that I've invalidated your "3 evils" exaggeration (fallacy)... are you actually going to try invalidating anything I've said in my original comment you replied to or not?

Your flawed reasoning "3 evils???" doesn't invalidate any or all of the points I've made... sorry.

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Number one reason...

I will not be at the polling place. Include me out.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

Please read this post below. Thank you.

Can you please give us hard-core Ron Paul supporters a break because we are just getting our people back from Tampa, strategizing for what is next, and knowing we are not attending a funeral for Ron Paul, he still has a pulse and his body is still very warm before continually posting this stuff on here? I believe in freedom, but it does come with responsibility and consequences. I would think that most of you would think before you jump on the GJ bandwagon and tell all of us what "we need to be doing."

We are hearing this repeatedly, but none of us go off willy-nilly to support a candidate. Did you not see us in Tampa? This is not a fly by night deal, this is our life and our lifestyle.

People are needing time to think, research, pray, take a break and a breath. This is not an easy decision and all these ideas have been literally thrown at us:

1) Vote for Obama it will sink Romney and he can pay for what he did to us and this way we only have 4 more years
2) Vote for GJ it will show we are not fringe
3) Vote for Romney because we need to take Obama down at all cost because he is the worst president in history
4) WRITE-IN Ron Paul in all the states he takes write-in, it will show we are not fringe and we can sleep well at night
5) Talk to the electorate because they are what really matter

We have a lot to think about. It does not help getting GJ shoved down our throats. I trust that we will do the research and our due dillegence and will choose together the right avenue to take. What do you do if you are on fire, you stop, drop, and roll. If we just run off in one direction the fire may spread rapidly and we will go up in flames, burn ourselves to death. Noone wants this. We want to make the best moves possible for the long haul, the joining of others, and to not divide all the work we have put in for so many years. We want to continue to grow and wake up more of our country to the idea of freedom and what it really means. We do not want to self-implode. We will take the time we need, but we are not hastily going to support GJ without all the research. AND or that matter we are not going to jump ship in support of Romney or Obama without thinking this all thoroughly through.

I will work tirelessly for the write-in campaign if it will further the liberty movement. Jury is still out for me....

You're selling GJ short... and probably intentionally.

There is a MUCH longer list of positive things that support and a vote for Johnson gets the liberty movement and the country than a "WRITE-IN" for Paul does. They were either intentionally left out or the author intentionally never tried to consider.

Feel free to add to the "Vote for GJ" list...
1. Johnson in national debates wakes up millions of Americans to the striking and worst similarities between both candidates and their parties.
2. Wakes up millions of Americans interested in learning about "libertarianism" for themselves... most likely coming across Ron Paul videos.
3. Could actually catapult him to win a 3 way race with the 46% of Americans who consider both Obama and Romney "evil" and 60-80% that are willing to consider a third party candidate due to their discontent with the 2 party duopoly.
4. A good showing in the popular vote shows millions of Americans that a 3rd party HAS a chance if only they joined the ever growing number of people that are not putting up with the 2 party BS anymore.
5. If Johnson were to win, our country would get closer to following the constitution rather than farther away. Less war, more civil liberties, smaller fiscally conservative government. It would show the benefits of getting away from the status-quo and would inspire the country to want truer libertarian policies seeing as they were proven that even partially libertarian policies were good for the country.
6. With the GOP losing or winning by a very slim margin, they get to know EXACTLY where all the votes they cheated and alienated went. Paul supporters who vote for Obamney, write-in Paul, or don't vote at all makes our numbers less accurate and less threatening to the GOP.
7. Because they want to win or win by a larger margin, they can't theorize that they don't need us anymore and will have to keep themselves from cheating us again.
8. Because they want to win or win by a larger margin, they may even promote a libertarian candidate being the nominee as they've already seen the libertarian numbers growing and taking over their party. They will still want to hold onto power... even if it means doing so in a reformed Classical Republican party.

Voting for Johnson for all of those good things... you can't sleep well over that?

Feel free to list the things that a Paul write-in does... and we'll see which one actually promotes more positive change.

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Wow great list! Nice reason

Wow great list! Nice reason and logic! I can't believe some boneheads actually gave you negative votes...

I am simply amazed at the the lack of reason and logic displayed by some Ron Paul supporters. To hell with the liberty movement and what would move us forward and be best for all I am writing on Ron Paul. What a bunch of selfish emotional brats some of these people are... Sigh!

I am sure there are a few GOP shill pot stirrers but there are just to many of them to all be shills.

I am also amazed at the people that keep repeating the media mantra "he can't win" about Gary Johnson especially after the fact that it was used on Ron Paul... You'd think they'd get a clue after hearing it repeated back to them ad nausea when trying to talk to folks about Ron Paul. Geeze must be the fluoride in the water or something...

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It's a good list in vain...

After promoting Paul for over a year, having my car covered in Ron Paul vinyl, talking politics with anyone that would listen or were willing to watch a few videos, even spending over a year coming to this site just to see the front page posts for more up to the date and non-MSM news... finally signing up so I could write a post and realizing the mentality of a large portion and possibly majority of people here... it's been more depressing than realizing Paul couldn't win EVEN WITH a nomination from the floor if he were to get it.

I thought "here's a group of people with common sense"... had this idea that it was made up of objective critical thinkers.

Boy was I wrong.

I'm very much considering cancelling my account. I have good ideas and if the self-proclaimed "truth-seekers" are too close-minded to acknowledge them... then what's the point?

The delegate strategy worked ONLY BECAUSE Paul was at the helm. I've had celebritarians read my original strategy and say they agreed with and liked it. But with some of the same reasoning that Paul has... there's a difference between strategizing your vote for delegates versus going against, what would be to apparently many people, "voting their conscience", and most in the lime-light of the libertarian movement wouldn't risk coming out strong in what many would consider an attack on their justification of voting the way they choose, even though the only attack would be on their lack of critical thinking and bias towards accepting information that caters to what they want to believe and ignoring information they don't want to believe... even in many cases making up things that aren't true and believing them into misconceptions.

The people that rate you and me down can't invalidate what we say and those that actually try with their fallacies are simply the most egocentric of the bunch... able to believe their own words and ignore others. The rest just agree with the half-a**ed thinking the one or two of them had done. They just downvote what they don't like hearing... even if it's the truth. The pseudo-intellectuals here get away with it because they're able to convince themselves that it's those with the sound arguments that are being willfully ignorant.

Seeing the potential in that list when I went digging deeper into the possibilities is what change my mind from doing a write-in to voting and supporting Johnson. It was NOTHING else. The fact that he could possibly win given the current state of discontent in America with our choices and the 2 party system and us now having the power of the internet at its own full potential regarding sharing information easily and be a better president than Obama and Romney is simply a bonus. Sadly, we're in a position where we really could use that bonus.

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Get over it folks.... Obama

Get over it folks.... Obama or Romney will be the next president of the USA... Why waste your time going over who your useless vote will be cast for... Enough distractions..... If you want to see your vote on the evening news for 2 seconds vote Johnson and put it to the GOP... Write in Paul... or whatever it makes no change in who will be in the White House... GET OVER IT...

Work on electing local Candidates ie: School board, city council, Mayors, state and federal liberty candidates..... Do something for your Liberty...

So you're saying that with

So you're saying that with 46% of Americans thinking both main candidates are "evil" and 60-80% of Americans are willing to consider a 3rd party candidate if they knew about a better one... plus the ever powerful internet's ability to make looking up videos and getting/sharing information which has been a key part of more than doubling Ron Paul's support the last 4 years... and the fact that Jesse Ventura was able to go from just a hopeful to win after getting into the debates which catapulted his numbers because people got to see him actually compared to the other candidates...

...you're really saying with that combination of circumstances... it's impossible?

Way to promote sabotaging potential.

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I'm saying Johnson won't be

I'm saying Johnson won't be in the debates... Ron Paul had enough states to be nominated... They managed to stop it... I will more than likely vote Johnson just to help the third party cause... He has no real chance of winning. He just doesn't have the support. As I travel and make mention of him to folks I have yet had one know who he is. Reality is reality.

I'm saying the one real chance at serious change this election can come from backing local, state, and federal Liberty candidates that are on this Novembers ballot. Post after post fighting over write in or Johnson is fairly pointless. It won't change an ounce of laws come January.

The same here, no one knows

The same here, no one knows who is is. About to replace my car's Paul vinyl with Johnson vinyl.

But then again, it took 4 years for me to find out who Paul was... and I came across an "Intro to Liberty" video that then got me interested in Paul by completely CHANCE.

You're downplaying the effect that Johnson would have in the debates in today's age of sharing information effortlessly.

The great things for the liberty movement (and in turn country) would happen whether he became president or not as long as his support was still high.

http://www.dailypaul.com/251148/should-we-write-in-dr-paul-i...

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No Motivation

Is consciously not voting just as bad as ignorantly not voting? Because I think I may do the former kind of not voting.

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it.
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No...

It's worse.

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His name isn't Ron Paul.

Simple.

Do you think Ron Paul would

Do you think Ron Paul would write himself in?

Do you think he's willing to waste a vote that would do nothing to promote liberty when there's a vote that can actually cause positive and much needed change like this country hasn't seen in a long time?

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Did I miss it? Did Ron Paul

Did I miss it? Did Ron Paul endorse someone?

It's well known that Paul

It's well known that Paul doesn't plan on endorsing anyone. He can't without risking the GOP and MSM passing off the liberty movement as a fluke when whoever he endorses still loses. It would create the theory that as long as Paul is out of the picture, the GOP has nothing to worry about.

This is also why he ALWAYS uses the disclaimer "I don't have control over anyone".

Add in him not also wanting to risk his son being ostracized from the GOP as the guy with the "anti-GOP" father/traitor?

Considering those points as to why he can't endorse anyone, do you really discard the fact that Paul has said that he doesn't trust Romney, Obama is only slightly worse, and that Johnson is "wonderful" and "doing a good job" and "people (those he knows listen to him) should take a look at him"?

Do you really need an official endorsement to make up your mind for you?

"Ron Paul said he's going to vote for him... so I am too!"

And you didn't answer the question... do you really think that after not being a viable candidate... he would write himself in?

Do you really think he's that type of guy?

Who do you think he would vote for and why?

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Lesser

of 3 evils??

At least GJ is on the right.

Obama and Romney are both way left. Big Government, Big tax.

#1

Because he is a pretender