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If we cannot stand behind Rand Paul, it is over, it's done

That is the facts folks. We put a guy in the senate, we put him there, it was a huge step for liberty in my book, probably one of our greatest victories thus far. We sure want to make sure we scrutinize him though, we are sure to make sure that he has to fight the establishment but at the same time please all of us libertarian folk. No pressure though Rand, hopefully we will be so hard on you that you will have to become a neocon, yep thats the kind of pressure we put on him, and if you don't agree you have HUA disease, head up ass syndrome. What in the hell is going on in your mind to scrutinize the one person we put into office?? If you don't back Rand, you give me 100% evidence that you are an infiltrator or a troll, yep give me all of your truth is what counts BS to backup your claims for beating him down that you want, I am not with you. We get a man into office and we tear him down, are you really that stupid? If you bash Rand, then yes you are lacking intelligence, comment away all you want all is I will see or hear is bah, bah, I am still a sheeple. The game is rigged from top to bottom, and you know what, if Rand sells us the ship that we have been sailing on for all of these years and we sink, oh well, he fooled us and we were sunk before we even put up the sail. That would mean the whole game is rigged, from Ron Paul on up. We lose. Go against Rand and we lose, back him and we may lose, but we have no other choice at this point.

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A man who lies to

get his way politically, regardless of what political positions he actually has (if he has any firm positions), cannot be trusted in office. Tog, you can call me a troll or an infiltrator, but I have been with this movement for liberty for 35 years, and I have never seen positive results for liberty, when all is said an done, from a politician lying about what he stands for.

Supporting Rand without him giving a public apology to the liberty movement for his deceitful actions, would be a betrayal of everything his father stands for.

I know Rand will have big money support in 2016, but I will do everything in my power to support someone more in line with my values for President (like the Judge or Tom Woods), who unabashedly, unashamedly supports liberty and peace. Anything less would make me feel miserable about my own ethics for the rest of my life.

Actually, the neocon small

Actually, the neocon small government Tea Party swept Rand into office.

And, I guess it's over and done, because Rand comes across as a huge panderer to me. He'll pander to Romney. He'll pander to the religious folk. If he weren't Ron Paul's son, he would be a nobody.

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

Rand is playing the game.

Lets get behind him and help out.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

Doug said

We need someone who can play politics. That's Rand.

Keepin' it real.

The time for games has long since come and gone

It's too late to play. It's just not a game anymore. Besides, isn't "playing" politics what helped get us in this fix?

That's the reason so many people are confused about Christianity and why the so called churches are in such a mess. They're playing church.(Shirley Caesar, an award winning, mainstream gospel singer tells a story about "playing church" in her popular song "I remember mama.")

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. The time to build is now.


I can get behind Rand 100%

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.