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Marianne Stebbins: How we took 33 of 40 Delegates for Ron Paul MN Speech + Conference Call

“Live Free” Speech at the Ron Paul “We Are the Future” Rally, Tampa, August 26, 2012
by Marianne Stebbins | September 1, 2012

Five and a half years ago, throughout the state of Minnesota, something peculiar happened. Introverts and other nerds started crawling out of their parents’ basements to voluntarily make contact with unknown life forms, life forms who were luckily also introverts and a little nerdy. People who had never known each other started to talk, eventually started to meet. No, not just on forums and facebook, but in real, live person.

The Zombie Apocalypse, you ask? Even, better. The word in the underground was that a most unusual man was to run for President. But, wait! These people hated politics. A lot. The lying, the empty promises, the ever-encroaching government, distinctions without any difference, always two sides of the same coin.

So when word started circulating that a politician who dared to talk about forbidden topics such as the Federal Reserve and our inability to afford unconstitutional wars and, above all, had consistently upheld his oath to the Constitution, was going to run for the highest office, tens of thousands of people who had previously checked out of politics in disgust sat up and took notice.

Those early headwaters formed the streams and tributaries that formed the river, and when it all came together, we saw some modest political success in MN in 2008. But 2008 was not the end point. That message flowed stronger, farther and wider each year.

We used to joke about how we needed to clone Ron Paul. We don’t joke about it anymore. We’ve done it. Where there was one man carrying the message alone, there are now many thousands, perhaps millions of us working together to spread the message that we live better when we live free. So where did these thousands and thousands of clones come from?

No, not all from their parents’ basements. Someone, somewhere told each of them the truth, patiently and in small doses, and opened their eyes.

We will be hearing a lot this week about “our nation’s leaders.”

What are leaders? Our leaders are not in Congress or state legislatures. Congressmen and Legislators are followers. They are representatives. They change their views to fit that of the population. Most of them.

The leaders are in urban neighborhoods, suburbs, rural townships. They are the ones discussing ideas with their co-workers, family and neighbors.

Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have found that, when an idea is held by less than 10% of society, its growth is slow and difficult, but when just 10 percent of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society. The leaders, in their neighborhoods, are those that get us that 10%.

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http://mnlibertynetwork.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/live-free-s...

Also: PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS RECORDED CALL! A LESSON FOR 2014/2016!
Just recorded a call with Marianne Stebbins of MN- WOW!!! Dial 605-475-4099 343231# <<< PLEASE SHARE!

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Marianne

is great

We are going

to win!

The approach above is no longer enough, now....

...in ADDITION to the above, due to the RNC rule change, you now also need the majority of the votes on your state GOP central committee.

So the debate is now over.

You MUST be involved in you local GOP and be in a position to win a state central committee seat or have someone you trust who you can support and then be in a position to vote for them...

...not in 2 years...

...BUT RIGHT NOW...

If you are not in that position right now, you have already lost 2016.

We've now been telling you since early 2007 YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE PARTY.

If you don't get it by now, then you are on side of our opponents, regardless of your personal believes, because you're a foot dragger and obstacle to winning.

Do what needs to get done. Attend your monthly party meetings. Run for party office.

It's already too late for 2016 by the way, for many if not most states. This is why we've been waiving this flag so annoyingly for so long SO PEOPLE FREEKING GET A CLUE.

What jack@ss voted my reply down.

What in it was objectionable? State it or be the coward you are.

Was it LP/GJ folks?

I did.

I didn't like your defeatist tone and knew you thumbed up your own comment. Whatcha going to now?

I'm not being defeatist.

I'm being a REALIST. What is REAL AND TRUE is always positive and optimistic. It is the TRUTH that sets man free, not self-delusion.

If you live in LALA land and move levers you THINK AND FEEL matter, does it have an effect in the REAL WORLD?

Wouldn't it be more effective to move the levers that ACTUALLY WORK in the real world?

That's all I'm saying.

So postive and optimistic...

I guess I'm just self delusioned and living in Lala Land while I pull levers. I don't live in the real world like you.

Again, I marked you down because you sounded like a defeatist:

"So the debate is now over" (You lose, you lose, give up, debate is pointless, you lose.)

"If you are not in that position right now, you have already lost 2016." (Already? You lose, you lose, give up, debate is pointless, you lose)

"We've now been telling you since early 2007 YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE PARTY." (Then what do suggest little nobodies like me do, self delusioned peons, people who live in Lala Land pulling levers? I guess I should just give up and accept that debate means nothing, I've already lost...)

You sounded like dick to me, that's why I marked you down, and my gut instinct is proving itself out.

Looks like on balance people disagree with you.

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Like I've said, thumbs up don't matter to me.

I'll do you one better, if you think "the debate is over", NOTHING you do is ever going to matter, because you've already lost.

Unless you win the debate, and encourage people to stand up and make the fight, you're going to find yourself outnumbered and without anybody standing with you when you earn those positions you thought mattered so much.

I guess I'm just sick of guys like you telling Ron Paul supporters not to stand up and be heard, to make the arguments that need to be made. If you want an idea to win, you need to fight for it, and you're telling me the fight is already over. We just lost, and the fight is over.

Enjoy your thumbs up. They mean NOTHING to me.

People SHOULD get involved in the Republican party and fight for position, but what I hear is: Unless you're already in those positions you've lost, and the debate is over. (give up, give up, give up)

Like I said.

I'm glad you agree people need to be involved in the party.

I am trying to point out that the "best in class" approach used by Maryann will no longer be sufficient.

Either people listen or lose again. It's really as simple as that.

Your sophistry talking around my post is ultimately irrelevant and the facts stand on their own.

I've said nothing false.

But you have, and you know it. If you think the debate is over, then match your actions to the lie.

You have.

You are attempting to draw attention away from the importance of being involved in the party RIGHT NOW vs. focusing only on the delegate strategy later.

I don't know how it's a "lie" to state that the facts stand on their own.

Another lie.

"You are attempting to draw attention away from the importance of being involved in the party RIGHT NOW vs. focusing only on the delegate strategy later."

When did I say ANYTHING about "the delegate strategy later" or discourage anyone from being involved or getting involved?

Wouldn't you say that telling people; "If you are not in that position right now, you have already lost 2016" could be described as DISCOURAGING them?

I said NOTHING you do will matter unless you win the debate, and you said: "So the debate is now over."

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Remember, I was drawn into your BS because you had a childish freak out when you saw somebody thumbed you down.

You're a little manchild. You're a duplicitous liar, and I'm getting tired of your BS. All I've done is pointed out the tenor and defeatist attitude you hit people with, while you called me a delusional Lala Land lever puller.

Remember, I didn't say ANYTHING to you until you started running your arrogant mouth, and since you've opened it, you've done nothing but reinforce my initial impression.

"I don't know how it's a "lie" to state that the facts stand on their own."

Is it not a lie to say the debate is over? Is it not duplicitous to call me a liar while you talk out the side of your mouth pretending you didn't just make every effort possible to keep people from getting involved or standing up and winning the debate?

Yes we have done that in MN and my BPOU.

People need to take up these positions and make sure you run candidates in your local offices that are Liberty minded. This is the only way we can ever win is by standing by our pledge. Just watch the Republicans will cave on the fiscal cliff by cutting a deal that raises taxes on people and we lose.

Those are the republicans that must be kicked out of the party and put back into the democratic party.

Just like FBI said, you need to take up positions within your BPOU in any capacity.

Time to Revisit!

A PROVEN pro-Active approach for the next 24/48 months!

PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS RECORDED CALL! A LESSON FOR 2014/2016!
Just recorded a call with Marianne Stebbins of MN- WOW!!! Dial 605-475-4099 343231#

It was fun while it lasted in Southwest MN

I made sure I knocked at every door in my district to get the message out for Ron Paul. When I finished mine I went to the next. I wanted to see Dr. Paul in St. Cloud but thought it was way more important to get the message out.

This was the first time I ever donated or done any voluntary work for a Candidate. I wouldn't change a thing even though we didn't win at Tampa in the end. Thanks Dr. Paul for giving me the chance to serve a real American Hero!

Gold standard: because man can not be trusted to control his greed

two steps

1) Be a caucus state
2) Have unbound delegates*

*This is now against the RNC rules.

Next stop...infiltrate the

Next stop...infiltrate the RNC. Then we can change the rules...

PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS RECORDED CALL!

PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS RECORDED CALL! A LESSON FOR 2014/2016!
Just recorded a call with Marianne Stebbins of MN- WOW!!! Dial 605-475-4099 343231# <<< PLEASE SHARE!

My notes from Marianne Stebbins conference

Thank you so much nmlifestyles for sharing this. Below are very sketchy notes from what I typed while listening to the recorded conference call with Marianne Stebbins:

Chris Lawton and Bill Rhodes with Marianne Stebbins - taking ownership of a precinct "precinct captains" coordinators "rose up" out of precinct captains and then out of the coordinators(BPOU) arose the congressional district coordinators those people who went over and above and did whatever it took -by being top down but bottom up. How did u identify those? They were in touch with the campaign, doing extra work, asking for extra work -you can tell who is doing the work and so it was those people we would ask to take on the extra responsibility. So that was really the backbone of our organization, people who stepped up to do the job we were very organized organization was key. In 2008 we didn't have as much time so we weren't as successful. Did people get discouraged in 08? it was pretty interesting for us arose finding leaders among them what do you have to say to those walking away from the party in droves now after 2012 criminal behavior on part of gop, some people will just go back to their couch, we have to remember that our goal is not to gain political power, our goal is to live free. people who don't want anything to do with politics, take a break, step away but don't drop out of the liberty movement. Keep your local contacts. we were keeping together and we were networking, bartering, going in on sides of beef, creating ham radio clubs, having Austrian meetups, the most successful ones meetup weekly these are attractive to people who are disgusted with politics, then they did come around and get engaged for the Ron Paul campaign. just be a part of the movement you don't have to be political. keep sight of our mission -to live free, local networks, ham radio club, bartering networks, homeschooling, maybe target practice visit different ranges, form a shooting club, think of all the things you can do to live free, and organize around those . The idea is to keep them interested and keep them in the network. Picnic, just get together for coffee on Saturday mornings, those areas that were strongest for us were those that stayed together. It's a way to stay together. We don't know what is going to happen. We are stronger if we're sticking together. Canning classes you can find someone who is good at it and organize a class for them to teach. Quilting, etc. etc.

the party leadership had at least gotten to know the Ron Paul people and gotten to understand them a little more and were no longer seen as the enemy. We were seen as maybe a little different but we were seen as part of the party. So it was important that a lot of our people did stay involved. Not everyone has to, but it is important for some to stay involved. Take that feeling of being steam rolled, talk about it to the press, to your state party, we're here to help you grow the party. Please don't push us out. In Minnesota, we're not all that Republican here, we need those new recruits. We kept making a big deal about it and the state party just did not want the negative press again over that. So let's welcome these new people into the party. Get to know your state party let them get to know you. if you are willing to volunteer for some of these Republican candidates, please do that. so you can at least have a dialogue when this comes up again. 1st you go up in the precinct, identify like minded people, identify leaders, get them to do certain tasks, district and state leaders. This time we already had some, but some stepped down and some forward. Get together with liberty movement in your area no matter how small or robust. In 2011 we had a little more time and of course now we have time. We tried to make ourselves available through tabling. Just set up a liberty booth or a name if you like. The important thing is that it's very visible at large gatherings. We had the RP 2012 booth at these county fairs. We weren't looking to convert but we were looking for our people. You know how it is. We just had to find and identify them! We did that even at the state fair. There is campaign for liberty. If you want to set up your own type of liberty organization. Just be clear what you're about and set yourself up to be a magnet and they will come to you. Finding your people was the first part of the campaign and then set up precinct captains out of them. Out of those captains, other leaders arose. They will be your workers. Had to train for caucuses. showed them how the slate works. Then we put those people through convention training. We would actually run through a convention and be role playing and try to steam role our mock convention so people knew what to expect and we would use Roberts Rules of Order so people would know what to expect. We would run a secret slate of those caucuses and .... RRO to not let shennanigans take place. So they knew what to expect. Let not the convention be done unto you. Do ye the convention unto others. Usually people will just sit there and they assume whoever is up there is in charge. But he's not the CONVENTION is in charge. So we impressed that upon our people. So that's how we did it from the bottom up.

IDENTIFY like minded patriots, -become a magnet and GROW the network, signing up like minded people, how to organize them? outline was requested. It's all about growing the network. Tabling at county fairs, Each individual talking to co-workers, neighbors, if everyone just found 2 new liberty people, we would triple the movement in a couple of years. So you're pushing it on them to to find additional people when they're out...It's just surprising how much you can grow just through your own individual networks.

Identify your people and grow the network. We do a quick survey in the precinct to identify the like minded people. Another step we took, on the phone your doing voter id, you can do this as an individual group. See if you can get a hold of your voter registration lists, ideally it would be nice to get a hold of the party's voter vault. Typically you have to be on a campaign. Ask if they sell that -the state party's voter list. Have a script and have them identifying their issues, who they supported for president last year. That's another great way to do that. If you are going to put together an organization, then come up with some basic liberty literature -"we live better when we live free" as opposed to having a far away government making our decisions.

Sometimes we have the precinct captain in place before we have 50 people in a precinct. Ask people if they're willing to be a precinct captain. If you're not in campaign mode, ask them if they would be willing to start an e-mail group. If you have someone who is engaged and wants to do something, put them on that and they're going to have to grow that themselves. People will step up and do amazing things when they know that they're responsible. Sets up an Austrian meet-up and that's kind of a hook to grow this precinct organization. He might put up a note in the library. He might put up keywords on FB. When it's not a campaign it doesn't have to be restricted to a precinct. It's going to vary by location/population. The nice thing about having them organize locally. If they've already got their organization together they can mobilize on a dime, put somebody up to run. Power outages, people can help each other out. It doesn't have to be about politics.
It's about liberty. It's about living free. List of activities they can be doing when they're not in campaign mode. It's really not a bad model even if you're out of campaign mode. county coordinators, state delegates, keeping network together. I don't reach down to every person in every precinct. That's where they need to be communicating.

Training? We really focused on those caucuses because they're so new to people. It was very, very important to us to have new people understand that caucus very well. 3-4 trainings a week. We did videotaping for those who weren't able to attend. We had a person to convene the caucus -exactly like a precinct caucus is run. We had them sign in, we elected the convener, the secretary...we went through it exactly the way it would happen. We introduced them to a lighter version of Robert's Rules. We operated the slate. When you're electing delegates, let's say 10 out of a precinct but there are 40 there. Typically not everyone who wants to get elected is going to get elected. So running a slate is really the way to do that. We all knew "which" 10 people(and only 10) we were going to be voting for when we went in there. vote for those 10 and just for those 10. Someone not on the list might come in and give a really great speech on liberty and you'll want to vote for them. But you can't. That slate is magic. Next level, so we got a hold delegates from the caucuses and asked them to come to a convention training, and we would run entirely a convention from calling it to order to a credentials report to electing a chair...and the rules, that was absolutely essential that they understand the proposed rules they hand you are not the rules of the convention. It would be a rules committee chair. We would have them just steam role the rules through. We had people in our convention propose changes to the rules. We had some that would've been "bad" to the liberty movement. We just made sure they knew exactly what they had to do, going into that convention. We made sure they knew that they guy up front did not control the convention but that it was to be controlled by them.

To some degree you've gotta keep quiet about what you're doing. We did surprise them. It couldn't be top down control it had to be precinct captains and coordinators with us helping. Mock conventions and then acted them out in real life and it seemed to work pretty well. You could use those same tactics for electing county officers for local Republican party. Hopefully you've kept your network in tact. You can run the practice conventions. You did an outstanding job on that. Did you have other types of training? ..........For us it was all about caucus and convention training. to get our delegates elected. It's really a blessing because it requires you to be organized. These people got to know each other and developed some really strong bonds. Whatever you're doing, try to have a side benefit of strengthening the bonds that those people become friends and talk and work on other activities. Because the stronger that bond is, the stronger you'll be in politics.

You have to get on FB. You don't have to troll, in lieu of anything else, get that FB network strong. I've had to reject FB friend requests outside of the state of Minnesota. Canning, teach others shooting, that's the kind of activity, camping, survival training, chop some wood or something. Whatever it is, do it! Cause that's where you're going to find your liberty people -those are the people you want even if it's not political. City level contact local groups about canning, etc. Give the local groups some real good ideas on what they can do and then let them do what they want to do. If there are strong networks at the local level, then I network with them at a state level, then when it's necessary, I can work with them then we can shoot!

Recruit liberty lovers without requiring them to be political. We are stronger when we are able to make our own choices. Let people choose if they want to do the political stuff or not and let them know you understand ENTIRELY and just invite them back to your Austrian meetup next week.

APP lets u identify all of her(Michelle Bachman's)? supporters on a certain street. It's got a terrific way to identify. It lets you only call the voters who haven't voted yet. It's a nice way to help a precinct.

Another great candidate in MN who I think would be interested too.

We are offering this to the liberty network. Grab a pen -www.precinctpatriotspack.com 864-263-3023. Mobile patriot sytem.

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I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. The time to build is now.

Excellent

summation!

So the above wont work anymore....

It's still a required component, but now the 2016 cycle will be different and harder because of the RNC rules changes.

It's no longer sufficient to wake up 1-2 years before the national convention to get votes and delegate positions.

You have to be involved now and TAKE OVER YOUR STATE GOP. If you do not do that, it wont matter anymore if you get every single state and national delegate positions at caucuses and state conventions.

You will have to be the people who SUBMIT the delegate names to the RNC, which means you have to control the executive board of your state GOP.

So, for those "disgusted" who go back to their homes to wait for the next liberty candidate and who are NOT running for their state GOP central committee, 2016 is ALREADY lost.

There you have it.

Shhhhh.... Don't give out all

Shhhhh....

Don't give out all the secrets.

Proud of Minnesota...

I can't say it enough, Minnesota rocked! The only thing I could offer is next time don't exclude those who don't use Facebook. Even though I was a delegate in 08 and even though I contacted Stebbins and was promised a heads up for delegate training... no invitation was extended. At the convention my husband and I were just expected to have had Facebook and thus been included and informed. I only hope my husband and I were lost in the shuffle and not left out because we don't use Facebook. Regardless, excellent work Minnesota! :)

Another term for preventive war is aggressive war- starting wars because someday somebody might do something to us. That is not part of the American tradition.
-Ron Paul

If Santorum hadn't run in MN,

If Santorum hadn't run in MN, we would have beat Romney by a landslide. Minnesota is an easy win for Rand Paul in 2016, providing someone doesn't split the conservative vote.

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I was hoping this was more about strategy

As we've seen in convention after convention, cheating rules the day. So, how did they get around the ignored calls for division, points of order, etc. Why were their delegates not simply dropped? Wy were they not relegated to the parking lot? Why did the criminal with a microphone not win this time.

I do like the strategy of appealing to non-voters though. because if you think about it they're the ones who've got it right. why vote for the lesser of 2 evils and legitimize a corrupt process? Plus, with a media propaganda machine enthusiasticly urging everyone to get out and vote, the decision NOT to vote shows some independent thinking, and THAT is more important than anything.

Minnesota was a huge Santorum

Minnesota was a huge Santorum state. Paul followed by a small margin. Not too many in MN like Mitt because of his faith and his moderate approach. But Santorum didn't run an efficient campaign and didn't organize to get his supporters to become delegates. We out organized everyone out here. Also...Minnesota is awesome.

The best synopsis of the Ron Paul movement...

Thanks, Ms. Stebbins.

Mirand Sharma

Marrianne is a patriot! She

Marrianne is a patriot! She drove 4 hours to help me out at my little convention in my little town. It was the greatest honor!

I live in a tough town up north full of neocons. I have a lot of work to do in my area. I won't quit. Not now...not ever!

2 Great Quotes from Marianne!

"Our goal is not political power. Our goal is to live free, because we know that means we live better. Politics is something we do defensively, out of necessity. When political power becomes the goal, we have lost the mission."

"To even attain that goal, we must do as Ron Paul has sought to do and as he’s taught us. We must change the hearts and minds of the population, of our neighbors. The political end will follow. If we focus only on the politics and try to force that system to fit our paradigm, but if the people are not ready, we will be disappointed. However, as we work to change the hearts and minds of our neighbors, the politics will happen."