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Why I'm Leaving America

a good read...from the S a i l B o a t D i a r i e s

Goodbye America
For as long as I’ve lived you’ve been my only home. I’ve had a wonderful life here. Your inhabitants are almost universally kind, and I’ve become lifelong friends with many of your citizens. All of my family lives here, everyone I have ever known or loved, and I will miss them all a lot. But after 22 years, I feel impelled to leave.

According to your founders, “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one [person] to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” Well, I certainly wouldn’t want to be disrespectful.

At first glance, you look like the greatest of all social systems. You seem like a stable and sturdy structure. People look at you and see strength. They see freedom and opportunity, democracy and unity. But a peek behind the curtain reveals a scared old man, desperately trying to maintain an illusion.

Your size and complexity hide a simple truth: that you don’t physically exist. You are nothing more than a system of human interaction; not a thing in and of itself, but the result of a widespread pattern of behavior. You emerge from our beliefs, and the actions they compel us to take.

C o n t i n u e . . .

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I can't read

I can't read this drivel. Running away doesn't change a thing and when you find that the grass isn't any greener on the other side then where will you run to? I never did understand those who protest by quitting.

I'm having trouble reading

I'm having trouble reading your drivel myself.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

It sounds like you are a

It sounds like you are a typical isolated American who has never been out of the States, brainwashed by your upbringing of outdated America is #1 mentality.

What an idiot

You really think that you can run from the coming tyranny? Don't let the door hit you in the arss. When did I ever say that America was #1. I've been around and the one thing I know is that people are the same where ever you go and there are assholes like you everywhere. Punk

LOL I'm glad to hear you have

LOL I'm glad to hear you have been around. Which countries have you gone to?

brush up on rule

brush up on rule #7...

http://www.dailypaul.com/guide

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I havn't looked at that in a while.

And apparently you haven't either. If you had then you would have seen that it is a link to the following.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_No_Asshole_Rule

And if you read the link you will see that the "no asshole" rule is not just calling someone "asshole" but is any demeaning or inflammatory speech directed at someone meant to cause emotional pain. That is my summary of it anyway. And such being the case then you would have prompted the person I am responding to as well for his obviously inflammatory and hurtful insinuations.

But being the man that I am and since you have brought my attention to the rules then I will refrain from further remarks.

Curious, have you traveled

Curious, have you traveled outside the United States recently? Ever?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Yes

If I have, then it would have been "ever". But since you seem to need to ask the same patronizing question twice. Yes. Ever. Six different countries. And I say that in the end you will have it no better regardless of what country you are in. Period. Just because some country seems better right now will not help you in the end.

well for your own sake, I

well for your own sake, I suggest you get out of this country. There are freer safer ones out there. I been around too. I know.

It wasn't a patronizing

It wasn't a patronizing question, your response to the fella above looking for more freedom seemed like you haven't seen how much more free other countries are. Maybe you're just a bully?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

The grass IS greener!

I can speak for myself and the other Americans I know here in Brazil (and Europeans, too). Our lives are much better. I've never felt more free nor been happier. Leaving the U.S. 11 years ago was the best decision I've made in my life.

"Protest by quitting"? Not sure what you mean by that. We are neither protesting nor quitting anything. Maybe that's why you don't understand, you see everything as a battle or competition of some kind.

when a country with 5% of the

when a country with 5% of the worlds population locks up 25% of the worlds prison population...simple math says there are greener pastures elsewhere.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Fools. There is no escape.

Sauron seeks to dominate all of Middle Earth.

if i knew of a place...

on this planet that was beyond the reach of the US government, id leave immediately.

folks, we live under a group of oligarchical psychopaths, set on world domination. would-be technocrats who aim to write the next 1000 years of history!

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"Terrorism is the war of the poor, while war is the terrorism of

Tahiti and Anaractica seem

Tahiti and Anaractica seem pretty safe.

freedom in our history

One way to look at is that we have the ideas of freedom in our history, and perhaps that is a strength.

http://www.dailypaul.com/254296/in-1931-horace-kephart-echoe...

Chile is free

http://www.sovereignman.com/correspondents/chile-corresponde...

People often ask me for my opinion about which are the freest, best and sanest places in the world. My answer is: “It depends.”

It depends on whether you are financially secure or still need to work, whether you have children with social or cultural needs, whether you want to be near established churches, whether you would go crazy living on an island, whether you can afford a lifestyle of $10,000+ per month in expenses or whether you can only afford $2,000 per month, whether a broad range of natural beauty is important or just a slice of paradise, whether a generally left-leaning social policy or a right-leaning social policy is preferable, and how important it is for you to be able to travel to other places easily.

While these are the main issues of concern, there are at least another ten items of secondary general importance that might carry greater significance for any client in particular. I won’t list all the secondary issues here. Nevertheless, having said all of that, I would suggest the following short lists:
For the relatively wealthy:

1. Hong Kong (the freest place on earth and a great place to shop or buy gold and jewels) and maybe Macau. Hong Kong is always ranked 1st in the world for economic freedom.

2. Campione d’Italia on Lake Lugano: Italian but administered by the Swiss (one of the world’s best-kept secrets for the wealthy to retire in luxury and beauty).

3. Anywhere on the list of 10 offshore financial centers mentioned in the previous post (but you would select one to live that is different than the one you select for your money to reside).

4. Chile — especially the lowest-taxed places in the world within its boundaries: in the tropical desert north Iquique and Arica, or in the deep south Punta Arenas and Puerto Natales (up to 21 hours of sunlight in summer and the opposite in winter).

Puerto Natales is beautiful and quaint, serving as a launching point to see the single most beautiful place in the world: Torres del Paine National Park. The spectacular Perito Morales glacier in Argentina is within striking distance too. Maids and other personal servants are reasonably-priced.

A person might consider having a four-month (summertime December 1 to March 31) residence in Puerto Natales, for instance, and an eight-month residence in Iquique. There is good regular air service between the two cities.

Located on the Strait of Magellan, windy Punta Arenas also has a three hour charter flight in the summertime to Antarctica, nearby penguins to see, great seafood restaurants (as does Iquique and Arica), and a cemetary with tombstones in over a dozen languages, in case those things matter to you.

If one shops at the free zones (ZOFRI) in Iquique or Punta Arenas for cars, appliances, etc. he will not have to pay either the import tariff (5%) or the onerous value added tax (19%).

Having said that much, I would also emphasize that Santiago is a great big city if one likes urban life, and Viña del Mar is not bad. Plus there are very wonderful exclusive beach area homes in Las Rocas de Santo Domingo, Las Tacas, and Zapallar. Chile was ranked 5th in the world (in 2010) for economic freedom.

5. New Zealand (trendy, free-market bent, a magnet for social leftists and radical environmentalists, beautiful especially on the south island, prostitutes are listed under “P” in the yellow pages, English spoken, walk and drive on the left, fiercely loyal to the Queen…Can you put up with it?). New zealand was ranked 3rd in the world for economic freedom.

6. Panamá (with a wide variety of living options from rural “Third World” living, planned rural communities, or the “big city” experience). Maids and other personal servants are cheap.

7. Monaco (maybe but they do sign on to repressive pacts with other countries at times such as the pro-feminist Hague Convention)
8. Pick your favorite Caribbean or South Pacific island not already mentioned. Maids and other personal servants are reasonably-priced if not cheap in many islands, especially poorer ones.

9. Luxembourg, Switzerland, and maybe a few other socialist places could be options for the right person, but these are way down on the list for me. I might as well include Arequipa, Peru, the Falkland Islands, Morocco, Guyana, French Guiana, and Suriname if we are going to stoop to this level of legal plunder and/or danger!

For people who need to work:

1. Chile (Santiago in particular but anywhere would do). The elegant northeastern part of the city is growing and the economy is booming in mining and agriculture. If you like to live where there was German influence in culture and architecture, try south central Chile. Maids and other personal servants are reasonably-priced, and they really help out with families with younger children. Chile was ranked 5th in the world (in 2010) for economic freedom.

2. Hong Kong (if you get a REALLY good job that affords you $15,000 per month just for rent!). Hong Kong is always ranked 1st in the world for economic freedom.

3. Panamá (especially Panama City)–Maids and other personal servants are cheap. Opening a pizza parlor in David is one thing. But how well will you fare looking for a job in Panama City (pop. 1 million)?

4. New Zealand (so long as (a) left-leaning social policy is not too troublesome to you–see notes in the entry above, (b) you are young enough and skilled enough to get enough “points” so the government will let you in, and (c) you get a job which is well-ABOVE the national average for salaries).

Opening a ski rental and repair shop in Queensland is one thing. But how well will you fare looking for a job in “big city” Auckland (pop. 1 million)? New Zealand was ranked 3rd in the world for economic freedom.

5. Belize (if you are willing to rough it in the Third World agricultural scene and trying to live dirt cheap or at least to live off of the land)–Maids and other personal servants are cheap. This option is only for the most hearty.

6. Paraguay (just as ferocious as Belize but worse; no income tax but a soft-fascist regime that permits Mennonites to own vast stretches of land and grow rich)–note: not a place for the faint of heart! Maids and other personal servants are dirt cheap. Like Belize, this option is only for the most hearty.

7. For those who don’t mind having one foot in the black market to prosper, and who can live with a prominent mafia presence, Eastern European countries like Estonia, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Montenegro, Croatia, and, if you want to take a risk but still be around the most beautiful women in the world, Serbia. Also, to be frank, the chance of you getting a good job in these relatively high-cost-of-living places is not very great.

8. Argentina (maybe but be ready for political upheaval, anti-Americanism, and insecure property rights). For instance, just after I put up this post in August 2008 some Argentines burned a commuter train as a protest of slow commute times. In the past the Argentine government has done wretched things like confiscate private social security accounts, tax exports, convert dollar-denominated bank savings accounts into pesos (thus reducing the account value by 70%), and passing a “glacier law” to please the Greens in October 2010 that has totally hamstrung gold and copper mining in the Andes.

Argentina is synonymous with stupid public policies. Violence and corruption are also soaring in Argentina. Taxes are high and some consumer goods like automobiles are outrageously expensive. You might find a way to work in Buenos Aires and leave your family, social life, and primary residence 90 minutes away in Santiago, Chile.
If you can manage to live in the smaller cities or rural areas of the country, you will likely fare far better.

9. Costa Rica (a lot of Americans, no military, but a lot of US control and a largely Third World experience only marginally better than Belize). Maids and other personal servants are cheap. Again, you will likely be getting a job in tourism or a service industry without great pay.

10. Anywhere on the list of 10 offshore financial centers mentioned in the previous post that you happened to get a job (but to be honest, this is very unlikely in most of the places on the list).
11. Bahrain (maybe but you have to put up with a lot of non-Western issues).

12. United Arab Emirates (ditto from the above entry). You know that the remaining world choices are not good when Arab states are this far up the list!

Chile = low taxes, growing economy, low unemployment, high GDP

Chilean Government Cuts Income Taxes

The house of representatives equivalent here in Chile ("diputados") just passed a true tax reduction bill that had been proposed by President Piñera. I mean middle class people will really pay $400 to $600 less this year on account of it. In percentage terms, an upper middle class person facing an actual (not marginal) income tax rate of 7% will now pay only 6%. How often do you see a true tax cut anywhere? Especially in the United States or Europe. In Chile, taxes tend to be fairly low for most people. The recent action shows that even lean governments can cut taxes further. Chile's government is about the same size as the Samsung corporation (South Korea), and apparently it will not be a little bit smaller. Would you rather live in a place where taxes and the size of government go down or an ever-expanding interventionist and welfare state?

http://escapeamericanow.blogspot.com/2012/09/chilean-governm...
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Chile continues to boom along economically, growing at an annual rate of 5.4%. The national unemployment rate remains relatively low at 6.5%, and four regions boast unemployment under 4%: Antofagasta, Atacama (Copiapó), Los Lagos (Puerto Montt) and Magallanes (Punta Arenas). Santiago's unemployment rate is 6.5%. There may be trouble in the northern hemisphere, especially in those countries reaping the fruits of interventionism and insane monetary policy, but Chile is moving along just fine. People have jobs in Chile and their standard of living is rising rapidly. But to keep up with all the growth, Chile needs to encourage more immigration in order to counter the effects of low natural population increase.

http://escapeamericanow.blogspot.com/2012/09/latest-census-a...

I think about Chile often! I

I think about Chile often! I would love to see the temporate region, lakes district. Plus, I could drink Mate without the usual questions.

I've never tried Mate, how does it taste?

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A bit green,hoppy, but it

A bit green,hoppy, but it grows on you. Especially when sip some first thing in the morning and the cloud of tiredness clears away and your brain kicks into gear! (different than coffee, mate is more cerebral)

So it's a stimulant? Cool!

I really want to try it now.

I would also like to go to Valparaiso and drink Pisco Sours:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/15492#i0,p16,d0

Free State Project

The next part of our journey as liberty activists has to be the Free State Project:

www.freestateproject.org

www.facebook.com/freestateproject.org

www.twitter.com/FreeStateNH

too expensive and cold in NH.

too expensive and cold in NH.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Well, depends if you like hot

Well, depends if you like hot weather or cold weather. I love winter, so it's perfect.

Too expensive? We moved here from Seattle and it's way cheaper than out there. Maybe not down south cheap, but I think the quality of life is much better here. Plus, you can live in rural areas with fairly intelligent people who aren't the hicks I've seen elsewhere in this nation.

I'm not an elitist, but I really don't like being around dumb hicks and crystal meth heads. Yes, there is some of that here, but not nearly as much as I've seen elsewhere.

The property taxes are high

The property taxes are high or else I`d be all for the free state project in NH. Not a great place for a homestead for that reason...

Yes, they are high, but

Yes, they are high, but overall, it's cheaper to live here, particularly if you do have income. I paid just as much in property taxes in WA state, but with almost 10% sales tax plus all the trimmings of King (Komrade) County. I've lived a lot of places now and found this is the most sane state.

some good comments...I've

some good comments...

I've seen a few people posting to the effect that ALL countries have laws that are anti-liberty and we won't find "nirvana" anywhere.

It's one thing to have a law, another to enforce it.

US has 5% of the world's population, and 25% of the world's prison population. That is a police state that loves to punish and lock people up.

No matter the laws on the books, there are MANY countries where the citizens go about their daily lives without being hassled AT ALL. Not in the US though.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

How did you get inside my head?

You have articulated the rational conclusion at which I have arrived after spending about a third of my life and the majority of my adult life reading, learning and thinking. You have done so in a manner that is far more complete and accurate than I have been able to do. Very few written words have spoken to my soul so directly. Thank you. When I think about my self-imposed exile, I only wish there were a place where I could live amongst individuals like you.

Unlearning and self-teaching since 2008. Thanks, Dr. Paul!