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Vancouver researcher finds flu shot linked to H1N1 illness

"Researchers, led by Vancouver's Dr. Danuta Skowronski, an influenza expert at the B.C. Centre for Disease Control, noticed in the early weeks of the pandemic that people who got a flu shot for the 2008-09 winter seemed to be more likely to get infected with the pandemic virus than people who hadn't received a flu shot."

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What?! Re flu shots, does this make sense?

1. Vancouver's Dr. Skowronski noticed that, in 2008-09, people who got flu shots "seemed to be more likely to get infected with the pandemic virus than people who hadn't received a flu shot."

2. Five studies in other Canadian provinces "showed the same unsettling results."

3. So Skowronski and others did experiments with ferrets. Half were given shots, half a placebo, then all infected with the virus. And, those given the vaccine "became significantly sicker than the other animals." That is, "The findings are consistent with the increased risk that we saw in the human studies," Skowronski said.

BUT... "Skowronski insisted the findings should not deter people from getting flu shots."

Humans (vaccine made it worse). Animals (ditto). I guess they'll wait to see how the flu shots work on plants and rocks - covering all four kingdoms - before drawing conclusions.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Actually I have heard this

Actually I have heard this observation before with people saying that those who get a flu shot, and the ones immediately around them, are the ones that get sick.

Anyway, I have never had the flu(or it was far too mild for me to realize it) and I have never gotten the shot. It isnt like I am sequestered away in my house either. I fail to see any reason at all I should get any sort of shot if I hae never gotten sick.
I suppose interestingly I dont get sick very often anyway; once in a couple years at most. I attribute alot of it to washing my hands, which is something people should do. I guess it also may be the result of an overactive immune system; my allergies to dust and pollen are sometimes terrible.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I've never had a flu shot, either.

What I find a bit ironic is that they especially recommend it for those who are most vulnerable, whereas if the research is correct (the numerous studies on humans and also study on animals that corroborates the studies on humans), that would be exactly the population most vulnerable to the apparent negative effect of the vaccine. I feel badly for those in the military - routinely given vaccines, including apparently for those not yet approved. Well, that's what I've heard. Yes, hand washing apparently does a lot to prevent the spread of germs. Interesting point about the immune system and allergies.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

A little bit of research will show

that illness has been knowingly spread world wide through vaccines.
Doctors, health professionals, and scientists are constantly voicing their deep concerns about vaccine related health issues, but are ridiculed, dismissed, gagged, ignored, or dragged through the courts and destroyed.

Dr. Skowronski's mama didn't raise no fool!

Disclaimer: The above consistent scientific findings showing the harmful effect of vaccines are in no way meant to imply that there is a harmful effect of vaccines such that might cause the government protection agency responsible to re-evaluate and even temporarily rescind its approval of said vaccine and thereby impede the vaccine's sale and profit by pharmaceutical companies providing that agency with funding, not that this disclaimer is meant to imply that cozy relationships between the government protection agency and pharmaceutical companies represent a conflict of interest at the expense of the public good, as neither the cozy relationships between elected officials and pharmaceutical companies via direct campaign contributions, PACS, and lobbying.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

awesome disclaimer

I needed a good laugh today and I got it

Re (um just slightly dubious) flu shots

Thanks. Yeah, I was laughing when I was writing it - except, really it's not FUNNY! When I read that that doctor INSISTED that the findings should not deter people from getting flu shots, I couldn't believe it. What a messed-up, surreal situation. Those poor people in the health profession trying to do good. Did you ever see the Dr. Burzynski movie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRua3NLg-Z8&feature=related He found a cure for a kind of cancer. What the State of Texas and U.S. government put him through! At one point they tried to put him in jail for the rest of his life. At the end of the movie, there was a link to a site for further info. That's where I read there was yet ANOTHER suit brought against him (April), this time to "just" revoke his license. I doubted my dinky letter would do much good, but apparently people from ALL OVER wrote on the guy's behalf; whether or not it was the fact that they realized his case had gotten national attention, I was so happy to see that the suit was withdrawn. Jill Booth wasn't kidding. Hopefully, Skowronki's little footnote there will prevent HER from being "ridiculed, dismissed, gagged, ignored, or dragged through the courts and destroyed." Frankly, I'd like her to keep researching and reporting on her findings, even though they're irrelevant. :D

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir