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Agenda 21 "doesn't exist"

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http://youtu.be/UE_0bGhjaoE

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It's also outdated and misleading.

Gary Johnson stated he is against Agenda 21 two weeks ago.

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Not much to this. Look, UNLESS your state counts write-ins...

...where Dr. Paul's name won't just be thrown away, the BIGGEST IMPACT we can have on this election is to vote for Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party.

Is Gary Johnson Ron Paul? No, of course not.

There IS only one Ron Paul (his own son Rand proved THAT to us).

But the object this November should be to PROTEST against this corrupt 2-party system which will not let any 3rd party or independent voice be heard.

Our FIRST objective then, is to get Johnson into the presidential debates. To do that the Libertarian Party must poll at least 15 percent.

As for his campaign running in the red, maybe we should have a money-bomb and change all that.

Remember, for all his faults, Gary Johnson IS a big supporter of Ron Paul and would have fully supported him if he had been nominated.

AND - Dr. Paul recently said that Johnson is a "wonderful candidate who everyone should take a look at."

That's good enough for me.

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Nice try to take his comment

Nice try to take his comment out of context. He starts off saying it is unconstitutional and should not be supported there by acknowledging it does exist. Then goes on to say as NM governor nothing ever crossed his desk concerning it so as far as he was concerned (as governor) it didn't exist. IOW for all practical purposes it was "as if" it did not exist when he was governor, not that he believed its a fairy tale.

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If Gitmo Gary knew anything about Agenda 21

He would know that it is mainly being implemented at the local level, *not* on a state or national level.

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Ron Paul write-in campaign 2012

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If your going to

quote him at least use the actual words he spoke. "Didn't Exist" thanks for the misinfo. And why is this video edited differently from the other "Doesn't Exist" video? You should have a job with the MSM.

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Agreed

He also has the right to change his mind. Not Mittens flip-flopping change his mind but genuine reappraisal. It's not difficult for me to believe that he didn't recognize an Agenda 21 feel.

But go ahead...vote for Robamaney.

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

I am selling my house this month and

there is a new fee attached (along with the many other taxes etc.) that is called LCHIP (Land and Community Heritage Investment Program). To me that screams agenda 21 all over it. The realtor said it is not gov..

seems that it exists. Seems like he did not take any

opportunity to explain himself here and the audience he is talking to disapproves. Seems like his supporters want to justify voting form him even if he is not in line with them. Sounds like what all Americans have been doing for a long time. I am not sure that a vote for Gary is not the same as a vote for the other two. I know people will say that we will be making a statement and the statement is more important because Gary will not win anyway. I am not so sure that the agenda 21 people will hear us that way either.... Jury is still out on this one for me.

Ron Paul write-in campaign may just make more noise that we will not compromise anymore.

lol

too funny.

donvino

Agenda 21 is Bull$#it

I'm getting really sick of this non-sense.

For crying out loud, shelve this crap with the "chem-trails."

Yes, the U.N. is evil. No, it does not own the National Parks.

Seriously people? Can we get back to the real upfront issues and leave this fairytale garbage with Alex-the-nut Jones?

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

Sorry you are wrong Agenda 21 is a FACT

I have the original document that I purchased from the local United Nations office for $10.00 back in the 1990s

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/agenda-21-fact-not-conspiracy/

Pelosi and Others Promote Agenda 21 in Congress
By Michael Park

Update to 2004 article: Representative Eliot Engel (D-NY), Nancy Pelosi and WM Broomfield (R-MI) all use the term “Agenda 21” and “United Nations” on this CSPAN video at 11:43:30.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/HouseSession758

http://www.freedomadvocates.org/

Bull$#it? Really...

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
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Wow, really?

How come my land is now called 'conservation lands'? This occurred while I owned it. Why is my neighbor, in cahoots with the public/private partnership of the Nature Conservancy and the USACE, converting 160 acres of productive orange grove into habitat for the Giant Sherman Squirrel (I have seen one in 14 years) and the black bear (never saw one)? Why are the two nearby towns being converted to 'villages' with the exact same goals supposedly agreed upon by the residents? No more cars, walk to work, more zoning and building codes are just a few goals. We live in the middle of no-where. It would take a day to walk to the store. We don't live here because we like codes! It's called 'visioning'. Look it up. Your community has the same goals 'agreed' upon at the type of meeting, using the Delphi technique, by the same people. And yes, my property rights have been diminished. My property value is plummeting because I really do not own the land if I can't do anything with it. The Giant Sherman squirrel and the government do.

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I shared a link of a presentation

I shared a link of a presentation which has nothing to do with "Alex-the-nut-Jones", in this thread, below.

It gives some insights.

'HTH

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I too like AJ...

And I AM a nutcase...i believe Alex Jones loves America and that he fights a huge fight to stop the evils that want to tear her apart...If I want to wake someone up I send them to Infowars.com first...I also have them google...NDAA, HR 107 2012, UN Agenda 21, Rosa koire (I found her on Alex), National Defense Resources Preparedness executive order, Leon Panetta tells congress Obama can start wars without them...Notice I started with info wars.com because, I feel, it will do the most good...

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I like Alex and I'm perfectly sane.

His passion is contageous.

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

You make a lot of claims but provide no proof.

Yawn.

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What's the point?

How about the whole "non-binding" part of the document? I've read the whole "agenda" pdf (which was extremely difficult to find and took a good amount of time to read) and there is absolutely no authority in it that would allow the U.N. to assert any kind of power that many of you claim exists. The U.N. is nothing more than a toothless wonder.

You're the one saying it's an issue so I'd place the convincing of ME in your court. I've pretty much heard every argument and I never heard any FACTS or anything concrete. This is conspiracy nonsense.

As employee of the NPS speaking as a private citizen ya'll are way off base on this crap. The National Parks have NOTHING to do with the U.N. and NEVER will. It's written into the very Organic Act that created the service in 1916.

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-Jimmy Stewart

Ranger Will, Attend a couple

Ranger Will,
Attend a couple years of your local Supervisor meetings and you'll see this is very real. Unless you have constitutionalists in office, they are enacting Agenda 21 a little at a time. Here in Az we have huge federal lands and they are now restricting travel on them and not letting people repair trails and chasing off the patented mine claim owners, etc.. The noose IS tightening. The Constitution was supposedly designed to keep tight controls on the federal govt. too, and once politicians figured out it was just a piece of paper, well you know the rest of the story.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

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Toothless wonder unless

local government is run by UN lovers. Obama: "I would never use the NDAA against Americans". OK (maybe) but what about the next POTUS?

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

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"The U.N. is nothing more than a toothless wonder."

NATO was created to bring peace..also a "toothless wonder"..
do you remember that?

Un has troops and ambassadors and a huge bank acct.
some toothless wonder.

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Really?

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/Rockefel...

What about the UN sign posts in the Smoky's? While I hate to be obtuse, here's your sign...
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2012/05/smoky-moun...

While I have no connection with the authors of these websites, I am an avid hiker and this has spurred local interests here at home. I'm not sure how many UN conferences you are privy to as an officer, but these two sites are pretty interesting to say the least, one claiming the US has given control of the national parks to the UN. My Grandfather worked in the Smoky's to put the roads in under FDR's proposal, and now we have it all to share, unless there is an ounce of truth to what has been said about agenda 21, which can be found in it's (safe for public consumption) entirety here.
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
Which being the official UN site makes me wonder what folks really know...
I do not claim that this is smoking gun evidence, but in reality people that have a conspiracy are justified by what is stated in the documents that are available to the public. So you may well be right, but these docs are the reason so many people feel the way they do.

Always remember:
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If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

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Re Johnson and Agenda 21

I'm not planning to vote for Gary Johnson regardless, but as Agenda 21 is an issue for me, I checked it out. It appears to me that New Mexico is heavily vested in Agenda 21 via ICLEI, the "bottom up" local counterpart to Agenda 21's "top down" approach. Among some other NM cities, both Santa Fe and Albuquerque are ICLEI members. Albuquerque's mayor is a leader in the movement, currently Executive Director of ICLEI-America. (He was a featured speaker at an ICLEI symposium in September. http://www.icleiusa.org/news/greentown-the-future-of-community) However, at least officially, both cities seem to have aligned themselves with ICLEI after Johnson's tenure in office.

FYI, ICLEI's getting a bad name thanks to people waking up as to its connection to Agenda 21's global environmental, social, economic, and political goals; the issue of constitutionality; the threat to private property rights; and the danger of public-private partnerships (PPI's) that can go hand in hand with ICLEI goals. You might not see it advertised that a town is an ICLEI member; just know that if a town is part of "GreenTown USA"... that's ICLEI. Note, Agenda 21 goes by various names as well, among them Rio, Rio+20, and the United Nations Commission on Sustainable Development, or UNCSD.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Bill Richardson passed ICLEI bill in NM.

Also, former mayor of Alburquerque, NM's largest city, was appointed as Executive Director of ICLEI in 2010.
Johnson would have benefitted from further explaining his knowledge of Agenda 21 operations in his state. Sure, he wasn't involved in them, but I get the feeling, from his response, that he might not be aware of the specifics of Agenda 21. UN Agenda 21 legislation does not have a "Agenda 21" stamp. It is carried out through "green" "sustainable" development organizations like ICLEI.
Check out Rosa Koire's "Behind te Green Mask."

Jesus guys

Are some of you people watching a different video? He pretty much acknowledges the existence of the idea of Agenda 21 but says he has had no reason to believe any major implementation existed.

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"but [he] says he has had no reason to believe

"but [he] says he has had no reason to believe any major implementation existed."

Oh yeah ? I'm glad to help.

This correlates recent executive orders and other "sustainable development" gov't actions with Agenda 21 precisely :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GykzQWlXJs

Maybe GJ isn't as stupid as I am to spend two hours of my night time trying to catch up with the knowledge of informed folks ?

Or maybe executive orders have no power and are written just for the fun of it ?

I'd love them to be so.

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Interesting report.

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more anti johnson propganda

nice spin, you should be a pitcher. he stated as far as he was concerned as governor of new mexico it didnt exist, he never said agenda 21 didnt exist at all. he called it unconstitutional. stop being a bunch of sticks in the mud pointing out a million reasons not to like him and realize their are 100 fold reasons to like him. take the quiz at isidewith.com if you need convincing hes the best choice on ALL 50 state ballots. there will only be 3 possible men who can take home the win. do you really want obamney? ndaa? more war? stop looking for the spec in gary johnsons eye, and realize theres a log in yours. vote how you want, but this election theres only one vote that will allow you to LIVE FREE. Live free or die! Give me liberty or give me death!

Gary just stated on 9-10-12 that he is against Agenda 21.

So which is it?

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