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Rand Paul: I Will be Campaigning for Mitt Romney

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This thing is clearly not a man.

ron paul will be in the white house

one way or another. i just want it to be sooner than you. i don't think the country can wait till 2020. i think rand is doing great with a few exceptions like the Abby martian debacle. i get what rand and ron are doing here.

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I don't agree

Ron Paul wanted us to join the GOP, become credentialed delegates, get committee seats, and you didn't do that. So you don't care about what Ron Paul wants, you want a front man, that you won't back, you don't have his back, and expect what, others are going to hacve his back that don't care what YOU want?

We have allowed our nation to be overrun because we refuse to replace4 them with people we can trust, ourselves. Maybe it's time you got on Ron Paul's bus rather than trying to hi-jack him for your own agenda?


in the recent jd interview ron paul said people should play their own part and not all do the same thing. not everyone can run for office or get on committees. i think a lot of peoples time would be better spent doing other things besides getting on dead-end committees. especially if the said committee is in a location where you won't have much if any real influence. each case is different. everyone has different talents.

my agenda is liberty!

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When the time passed to become delegates

When it was too late, and then the losers among us who didn't even try to become delagates said, "What should we do now?" He said Do what you want. But he stayed in the GOP.

I'm positive your agenda is worthless and won't gain anyione anywhere any freedom or liberty.

I'm sure my committee and all the Ron Paul RepubliCANs on committees will do more to achieve Liberty and freedom than you and the enire LM together.

You know I keep thinking that over time

You are going to open your eyes and realize, just because you did what you did, and you think you deserve a trophy, that the approach you followed was doomed. Okay so you followed the company prescription, lock stock and barrel. Well, sadly all of the effort and energy you so reverently contributed didn't amount to a hill of fucking beans. Why? Of course you didn't ask, so I will tell you. Because, beginning in April 2012, the campaign folded like a three egg pudding. FLAT! They were suggesting you become imbedded in the RNC, while all the while, they were taking a powder....sweating "A" bombs and fury coming from the Romney Campaign.

When are you going to wake up and understand, by a number of people at campaign central, you were left twisting in the wind. Face, it, that you got screwed more than most and move on.



nailed it.

You know, I keep thinking over time

Grassroots will open their eyes and realize that doing what Ron Paul asked us all to do it the best way. I have so many trophies, awards, I'm not seeking another, however, I do comsider my Ron paul signed, tee shirts, books, picture of us as trophies enough. My path is the path Ron Paul asked all of us to do. If you actually support Ron Paul, what's wrong with you? Why aren't YOU doing what Ron Paul asked? We just gained thousands of seats in the GOP, so how is that doomed? Because you think Ron Paul is stupid and and fraud who put us on a doomed path? Think again.

Okay so you followed the company prescription, lock stock and barrel. Well, sadly all of the effort and energy you so reverently contributed didn't amount to a hill of fucking beans.

You're wrong, it amounts to how we achive liberty and it is working, as my committee has been rejecting unconstitutional inniatives and not just following GOP orders. Of course I'm not alone on my committee anymore, the more Ron Paul Republicans the more we establsih OUR message of liberty FROM the Neocons unconstitutional mess, while restoring constitutional government. It feels SOOOOOO Great, I just won't stop sharing how AWESOME it is.

Why? Of course you didn't ask, so I will tell you. Because, beginning in April 2012, the campaign folded like a three egg pudding. FLAT!

In April, the campaign achieved plurality, and since MSM refused to give Ron Paul and the campaign any credit, refused to tell the American people the truth, that Ron Paul had achieved the campaign's goal, and since grassroots was screaming "Uncle" at moneybombs, the campaign thought, "Why are we going to pay MSM our supporter's money, when they refuse to tell the truth about us achieving plurality? We have plurality, the insiders on theis campaign KNOW what's up, we've given grassroots 5 years to get with the plan.. we may be looking at needing to help delegates financially and law suits,, so let's create a vacuum". And they did. They did not quit. I got phone calls, emails, conference calls... they just kept with those who actually did what Ron Paul asked us all to do. Apparently that is NOT you. You lost, Not me. I have a nice seat where I can vote "No" for OUR liberty, and what do you have? I still get conference calls from the campaign. What do you have? Hate? Bitterness? Confusion? Apathy? Good for you. Want a trophy?

They were suggesting you become imbedded in the RNC, while all the while, they were taking a powder....sweating "A" bombs and fury coming from the Romney Campaign.

Actually we were fighting, and folks like you were MIA, by your own choice, after all you think you're so much smarter than Ron Paul and his campaign, and of course, you're far more dedicated than anyone who actually did what Ron Paul asked ALL of us to do.

When are you going to wake up and understand, by a number of people at campaign central, you were left twisting in the wind. Face, it, that you got screwed more than most and move on.

That's NOT my experience by a LONG SHOT.. Now we meet each other at state conventions, we keep up, discuss issues.. I'm very happy and totally KNOW WE ARE THE FUTURE.. I guess tjhat's my real trophy for doing what Ron paul asked all of us to do.

How's your plan working out?

Peace be with you.

And what good is all your commiteeing

when the national GOP is going to override you and install their own goons as delegates?

The RNC went to far

Blowback is happening in the GOP now as we are no longer considered party crashers but victims of a tyranny the GOP is asking, "If they can do that to them, what stops them from doing that to us?"

And we answer them: The US Constitution.. and they LOVE it.

So we are unifiying nad it is good.

You are so full of it. Here

You are so full of it. Here is what Ron Paul said we should do, "Do whatever you want. Do what you think is important. Everybody is an individual."


I'm going to post this every single time you try to tell us what Ron Paul said to do.

He asked you to join the GOP and become a delegate

And when the time was past to become a delegate he said, do what you want.. He's in the GOP and so am I. Do what you want.

I challange you.. I say that Ron paul Republicans are going to do more to achieve liberty than anything you, and anyone in the Liberty movement will do.

He said that in 2011 when

He said that in 2011 when anyone could've still became a delegate. He has said the same thing many times, as well. You're either a liar or ignorant.

GOP voter registration increased

That gave the GOP additional committee seats. I was a guest for a year. Why not you? Why not prepare to be a delegate in 2016 now and in the meantime help us hold the GOP to the constitution?

I take it by your change of

I take it by your change of direction that you now admit that Ron Paul never said that we should ALL join the GOP, and that he didn't say to "do whatever you want" only after it was too late to be a delegate. Your lack of a response to what I brought up doesn't give me an answer to whether you were intentionally lying or just ignorant, but it is nice to know you will stop making the incorrect claim that Ron Paul told everyone to do what you have decided to do. Or, at least if you continue to make that claim we will all know you are intentionally lying to people.

As to our question, the reason I don't follow your path is because I don't believe it is the most effective way to achieve liberty. You, obviously, disagree and that is perfectly fine by me. If you are actually a supporter of libertarian principles, which I am highly skeptical about, then I wish you nothing but success in the path you have chosen. I hope that all libertarians are successful in spreading the message even when they choose a different way to do it than I would.

What I don't like about you is the constant berating you take part in of good people who just don't agree with your strategy. I don't like how you misrepresent the truth when it comes to what Ron Paul has said. If you simply made the case for why you believe your path is the right one then I would disagree, but I wouldn't call you out for either being dishonest or ignorant.

Ron Paul ASKED

For those who asked Ron Paul, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP YOU BECOME PRESIDENT, he asked that you join the GOP and become a delegate. I don't see where I've changed anything.

You have every right to persue liberty your own way. Go for it.

I've very happy. Hope you are too. Hey, show me your way is better than Ron Paul's. I'm sticking with Ron Paul's way, in the GOP.

You do realize Ron Paul isn't

You do realize Ron Paul isn't running for president any longer, right? So your incessant yammering about Ron Paul told us ALL to join the GOP is complete BS. When people ask him what they should do to help bring liberty to this country he says, "Do whatever you want. Do what you think is important. Everybody is an individual." So either stop telling people that Ron Paul told everybody to do what you are doing or we will all know you are a bold faced liar.

If you want to promote your strategy then have at it. That doesn't bother me one bit. I think it is good for people in the libertarian movement to do a variety of different things to advance the cause. Doesn't mean I have to agree with all the different strategies but I still wish nothing but success to actual libertarians, of which I'm highly skeptical that you are one.

But don't expect me to try to convince you that there are better ways to achieve liberty. That would be about as effective as banging my head into a wall. You've made up your mind and that's great for you. Like I said, I wish you nothing but luck if you are actual a libertarian. I don't need you to agree with me to go in the direction I have chosen.

So what, RP isn't running for president

That does not stop our mission to fill committee seats and get backing for those running for office.

Do whatever you want. I agree, no reason to not discuss it what we are doing.

After November I will still have my seat, and still be voting NO to unconstitutional inniatives, resolutions, issues and platforms.

What will you be doing?

Where is your direction taking you past November for Liberty?

Yet again you try to change

Yet again you try to change the topic. An honest person would admit that Ron Paul never told ALL of us to become delegates and join a committee. An honest person would admit that in 2011 when anybody could still have become a delegate that he said, "Do whatever you want. Do what you think is important. Everybody is an individual." You are apparently not an honest person. You do realize that by admitting you were wrong about what Ron Paul said doesn't mean you have to choose a different path, right?

Granger, give it a

Granger, give it a rest.

You've been justifying your support for Romney by insinuating that Ron Paul wants everyone to join the GOP and since you did, therefore you're justified in doing whatever you must do in order to keep your GOP leadership seat. In justifying your own actions to yourself, you feel like you have to put down those who have made the decision not to join.

You're turning off a lot of liberty movement folks who aren't comfortable associating themselves with the GOP.

There are other ways to support the liberty movement than by joining the GOP.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie


When I went to my first meeting I WAS VERY AFRAID,, I imagined 21 Dick Cheney's and George Bushs were going to be there to torture me. Why Ron Paul insisted on the GOP was beyond, me, I KNEW we could do this without the GOP, why wouldn't Ron Paul listen to me? I didn't want the GOP. I hated the GOP. I feared the GOP, but I went anyways.

What did I find? Two old people eating Chinese food.

That is what I was afraid of.

These two old people have to lie, cheat and steal to materialize MSM BS.

So then I saw what Ron Paul was talking about.. END THE LIES. END THE BS, join the GOP and take those seats/ become a delegate.. the GOP is a FARCE, not a FORCE. We can become a FORCE FOR LIBERTY.

But too many have PREJUDICE, not based on any experience, but MSM.

Many people here get mad at Ron Paul, call him a coward, a traitor, says he won't FIGHT. Well, I will. And I am, even seeming people who say they are Liberty movement... Liberty movement is NOT the rEVOLution and Ron Paul is in our rEVOLution, which the liberty movement keeps trying to hi-jack.

Why wouldn't you want to be with Ron Paul? Don't you trust him? I'm sure glad I did. And I'm not going to give it a rest because my LOVE for Ron Paul and our rEVOLution is stronger than ALL that HATE combined.


Here it comes. We don't agree with your "Eat GOP shit to win" strategy so we are "haters". Do you guys have a script you follow? It gets boring and predictable.

You are a hater

which is worse than boring and predictable.

"Hater", the lame lefty

Neocon ad hominem. And you draw it like a gun, because you've got nothing else. Might work at Free Republic or some lefty site. People here see it for what it is.

Where's your love?

You go to my posts to insult me. Now, in this post, you are calling me a "lefty", because the Neocons were socialists from the Democratic Party who infiltraited and took over the GOP, lying, cheating, stealing, betraying and even murdering to get the power, and since I am sticking with my loyalty oath to the GOP and voting Romney, you attack me.

You are in effect saying I am a Neocon because I am voting Romney. You don't care, or care to understand, my reasons. So you make hate posts to me. People see what people want to see. Many here have not been here over 5 years, joined the GOP, became a national delegate and worked hard to get a committee seat... certainly not you, instead of showing me appreciatiion for doing what Ron Paul asked ALL of us to do when he was in the presidential race, you attack me. That is hateful and many here see it.

I am REPLYING to you,

feel free to ignore my posts. Did the GOP stand by any kind of fairness or loyalty to fairly elected delegates? To Ron Pauls voters whose votes they threw out, "lost", caucuses and precincts cancelled while Rombamas were held? Your sense of "loyalty" to the crooks who screwed Dr Paul and us is so touching. Appreciation to you, supporting Rombama? No, you are correct, I DON'T appreciate that but you are the one who has to look at yourself in the mirror. I hope your lofty standing in the party of Neocon crooks is worth it. Where is the youtube where Ron Paul asked every one of his supporters to become delegates? He did no such thing, it is antithetical to who he is. He certainly promoted the delegate strategy, and it would have worked if he had had a real campaign and we had a legitimate electoral process. I disagree with you, get over it and stop whining about me "hating" you. That is nauseating emotional femi-Neocon trigger wording. Besides, what do you care who "hates" you? Man up, dude. Really.

The GOP was in shock by what they saw at the RNC

They campae home and told their committees, "You wouldn't believe what happened. The RNC removed Maine Delegates and replaced then with their own. They refused to say Ron Paul's name when he won votes, and they paid a tribute to him but refiused to let him speak. They gave him his own areana and it had more people than we had. It was crazy!! And the committees replies "WTF, if they can do that to Maine then they think they can do that to any of us? Who put these people in power, and why is Romney being forced on us. This is pathetic! That's how the other Ron paul Republican and me received an unsolicited apoligy from our chair. The GOP is NOT happy with what happened at the RNC.

YOU don't appreciate it, but who are you? An observer. I fought very hard for my committee seat and to become a delegate. What did you do?

Where you are all bent out of shape, you had nothing to lose, where I had a hell of a lot to lose, and yet, I'm still in there fighting, while you;re fighting me, because you are offended.

How do you look at yoiurself in the mirrow, you;re a do nothing big mouth. So you;re offended. BFD. I'm offended and I got an apology.

Apparently Obama isn't that bad, you have no faith in Ron paul Republicans and you like being offended while looking for easy street to a perfect political party. GOOD LUCK.

Where is the YouTube? How do you think so many peiople went out to become delegates? YouTube? Most the old video are currantly unavailable, but there were many like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewhekk7ObA0&feature=related adn there are web sites, and it's not like you never saw anyone on DP tell you to become a delegate.

The campaign promoted the delgate stratigy and it was genius. The propoblem was so many fans like you didn;'t have the cuorage to actually do it.

I could care less if you hate me, what I'm tired of is your ranting BS that is nothing but insults. Thanks for fewer insults. Maybe that turns you on, but to me, it shows a poor education as you are unable to disagree without being crude.

Too bad

you insist on conflating truth with "hate" and "insults". You don't think, you FEEL. How nice that "the GOP" was "shocked"...the whole time they were letting it all go down and participating in it. They said they were sorry so now you can vote for Romney like a good little tool.
No way did Ron Paul require "everyone" to become a delegate...for what that turned out to be worth.
Schmoozing with backstabbing pols is your thing, it's not mine. You fought for your committee seat...so you can now stick your nose up Romneys ass and make like a good little Neocon toadie. So proud of yourself, aren't you? BTW, I'm not offended. It's your business who you want to support and vote for, just please spare us all the horsecrap about how you're fighting for liberty. You are falling into line behind the creep Neocon who cheated Ron Paul, an illegitmate usurping crook. But hey, you're a big shot GOP person delegate at least as long as you play nice with the Neocons, ooooooooo. So impresssiiivve.