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Gary Johnson Smear - This Time They Say He Is A CFR Member!

Some of the latest smear that detractors sling at Gary Johnson is really reaching. The latest smear campaign tries to tie Gary Johnson to the Council on Foreign Relations. At first people were saying that Gary was a member of the CFR but it is easy to disprove because his name does not appear on the CFR member's roster that is online.

The latest version says that Gary Johnson has an adviser named Douglas Turner that is a CFR leader. The problem with this is that Doug Turner was a campaign adviser for Gary in his 1994 and 1998 campaign for New Mexico Governor. Doug Turner's biography shows that he was also term member of the CFR and was their "International Affairs Fellow For Japan in 2005-2006". What you have here is someone that worked with Gary Johnson and then 7 years later worked with the CFR for two years. Isn't that a stretch to imply that Gary Johnson has someone on his staff that is a member of the CFR? Doug Turner is also a life time member of the National Rifle Association and was a member of the NRA while he was with the CFR. Does this expose the NRA as CFR stooges? To think that would be silly now wouldn't it?

We saw this same kind of smear with Ron Paul and we know better. Let's not fall for this same kind of tactic when it comes to Gary Johnson.

Gary's name is not on the CFR membership roster:
http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=J

See the smear:
http://jeenyuscorner.com/2012/09/10/gary-johnsondouglas-turn...

See a bio on Doug Turner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Turner

Doug Turner on the CFR web page:
http://www.cfr.org/experts/world/douglas-turner/b11203

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The NRA analogy would be silly, but I would remove it as a bad

example.

Their track record is pretty bad - some claim they are the ones who write the horrible bills that come up as "compromises."

The NRA leadership thinks there is no way to stop gun banning or confiscation, so they attempt things like "registration" as a stop-gap measure to placate the jack boots.

In reality, if the NRA would STFU, we'd all be a lot better off.

With friends like the NRA, who needs enemies like Eric Holder?

Your title is very

Your title is very misleading. The accusation is not that Johnson himself is a member of the CFR, it's that he is under their influence. You don't get to be a fellow at the CFR unless you subscribe to their positions, nor would you want to be part of CFR leadership if you did not subscribe to their positions. The notion that his membership with the NRA means the NRA is linked to the CFR is lunacy, and it is you who is stretching. Anyone can be a member of the NRA by sending the membership fee and the NRA has only to do with Gun Rights, not foreign policy.

Turner served Johnson for nearly a decade. While he was governor, Turner was Johnson's top policy adviser. Turner, next to Johnson, was the top guy.

Turner obviously subscribes to the CFR positions or he would not have accepted a position in leadership. Johnson has said he supports "Humanitarian" wars, intervention in Uganda, keeping our bases in the Middle East, and possibly some action to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear power. These are all CFR positions that Johnson holds, probably because of his years being advised by Turner. So the accusation by many Ron Paul supporters, who are suspicious of the CFR link, is not that Johnson is a member of the CFR, but that he may well be under their influence. In any case, it's for too close for comfort for some...Myself included.

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actually

in his latest "ask me anything" event, the question was brought up about "humanitarian wars". His response was basically he thinks when genocide happens in a foreign country it is bad, and people who want to fight against it should be able to fight against in ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS financially supported by PRIVATE DONATION. He in no way said that he would order US troops to fight in humanitarian wars unless there was a proper declaration that was voted on through congress.

in your face.

So, he's advocating

So, he's advocating mercenaries and vigilante justice? Nice . . .

Blessings )o(

From the post above your's

it sounds like GJ would issue a letter of marque and reprisal. I believe Ron said something similar about the Iraq war ect. Thomas Jefferson issued a letter of marque and reprisal to go after the pirates in the Caribbean, and yes they are mercenaries. I rather have a letter of marque and reprisal then send 100k+ troops who will be on the govt pay roll in some way for the rest of their lives. If GJ mentioned the letter of marque and reprisal it would have cleared things up. As far as vigilante justice, mercenaries sanctioned by our govt are not carrying out their own orders, but following the orders they are paid to follow.

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in a way

yes.

He advocates whatever he

He advocates whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. That is just what Gary Johnson does.

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I agree. My post was

I agree. My post was sarcastic, though it doesn't come across well online. I"m writing in Ron Paul. The Johnson people can do whatever they'd like.

Blessings )o(

I am also writing in Ron

I am also writing in Ron Paul. That is the difference between the Ron Paul supporters and the Johnsonites. As you stated, and I agree, anyone who wants to vote for Johnson should. However, they cannot seem to accept that many in the liberty movement just are not comfortable with Johnson and thus cannot vote for him. They feel the need to attack people personally. The Canadian poster here on DP who trolls full time for Johnson paints anyone who cannot vote for Gary as being paid by Romney. They would do far more for their candidate if they left those of us who are writing in Ron Paul alone.

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Johnson's stated policy

Johnson's stated policy position is that he supports "humanitarian" wars. Now Johnson is one of the biggest flop floppers in politics, so I have no doubt that he may have altered his position while chatting with a large Ron Paul crowd. That is what Johnson does.

Keeping our bases in the middle east? Continuing drone strikes? Leaving the door wide open for action against Iran? All Johnson positions and all CFR positions.

In my face, indeed! :)

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hmm

show me....

# bad guys fund him? they are not!
# allow his... him on ballots LOL

SICK and tired reading crap from Romney LAWYERS on the Daily Paul.

LET HIM DEBATE!

First presidential debate Oct. 3rd Denver Colorado.

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Nobody funds him but you are too dense to get that.

Yeah Romney Lawyers have nothing better to do than post about Gary here.

No points for you!
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Just what we need...A third

Just what we need...A third neo-con on the debate platform.

You just don't get it. Having a liberty candidate who espouses the CFR positions on foreign policy is far more harmful to the liberty movement that the libertarian candidate just not being included in the debate.

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you are CFR

YOU.

Keep on your attacks.

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I don't know how it works

I don't know how it works there in Canada...But here in the USA exposing a candidate's positions or associations is not an attack.

However, when you lie and say that anyone who disagrees with you is paid by Romney, that is an attack, dishonest, and it's why you have zero credibility left on DP. You have lost far more votes for Gary here than you have won. Perhaps it is you that works for Romney?

Et Tu, Brute?

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I believe you hit the nail on

I believe you hit the nail on the head there. He started pushing Johnson and ruining morale around here while we were still electing delegates for Ron Paul. The only candidate that benefited from that was Romney. I'm sure you're right about him working for Romney. What better way then to ruin RP morale and divide the liberty movement. He's done an outstanding job at that.

Blessings )o(

only in your brain

People are sick and tired of folks like you telling them what to do.

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You have it backwards. I have

You have it backwards. I have never told anyone what to do. Exposing Gary as a fraud is not not telling people what to do. My position is that those that are comfortable with Gary should vote for him, except you as that would be illegal because you are Canadian.

However, you and the other Johnson trolls consistently claim that any info you do not like about Gary is a rumor started by the Romney Camp and that anyone who does not vote the way you do (well maybe not you because you cannot vote in the USA) is a Romney supporter.

You are entitled to you own opinion sir, but not your own facts, and yours are consistently incorrect.

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And this is on DAILYPAUL....

why?

because in a recent poll

66% of people who supported Ron Paul in the primary plan on voting for him. Also, he is a liberty candidate running for president of the United States.

Thank you

Romney team created this rumor.

These guys who would be happy to see the bombing of Iran.

Why don't they take their time to work exposing AIPAC connections in America?

Why?

hmm....

GJ: Pentagon budget cut by 43%.

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Can you provide the link

Can you provide the link showing where the Romney Camp brought this up, or are you just making that up from your computer in Canada, as you do so many other things? This has been discussed here on DP ever since Johnson first announced for the republican primary.

This is clearly not a rumor. It is a fact that Turner served the CFR in a leadership capacity. It is a fact that Turner was Johnson number one adviser and was employed by Johnson for nearly a decade. It is a fact that Johnson has taken some CFR positions with respect to foreign policy. Those are all facts.

So it's not a rumor at all. Rather a question many Ron Paul supporters ask. Is Johnson's link to the CFR too close for comfort? For the me the answer is yes.

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You ask me this?

You who does all to help Romney?

How much Romney is paying you to do this?

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Ask you for proof of a

Ask you for proof of a baseless accusation? Yes, I ask you Mr. Canadian for that. Not that I expect you have any as most of your posts have zero bases in the truth. You have been proven to be a liar here on DP time and time again.

As far as me working for Romney? Just another one of your lies, a figment of your imagination.

I am an unapologetic supporter of Dr. Paul and he will have my vote in this election even if I have to wrote him in.

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