20 votes

UPDATE: Huge news: Ron Paul and/or the liberty movement has been promised up to 1.5 million NEW votes

Referred by one of the most respected elder attorneys in the country a major mover and shaker in the US has been in touch with me. After numerous conversations he has decided to make a big move: he is promising to bring us a minimum of 1.2 million votes and up to 1.5 million, all as write-ins, where possible, for Dr. Ron Paul.

This is an Ethnic United Establishment, which will vote as one block. Previously, they voted for Obama (about 900,00 votes) but are entirely disillusioned, and they know the agony they've suffered.

UPDATE: I have confirmed that the people behind this did move that number of voters to Obama. The opportunity is there. We the grassroots can take this action ourselves for future liberty-minded candidates.

For instance, we should start preparing to go to every mosque, which is in the area for a given liberty candidate. The same with Polish community centers, African-American cultural centers, and more. As a huge liberty-minded movement, we CAN do this. Just have to get organized.

These voters are also highly disenfrachised by Romney, who failed to contact them. Also, they feel betrayed by Obama and the entire Democratic system.

They love the fact that Ron Paul people are liberty-minded and are willing to talk to them. As one massive unit they want to support the liberty movement forever. In fact, they are so fired up they wish to lend support to every one of our liberty candidates, including Ron Paul and far beyond.

This is happening on the eve of the launch of the new vote counting and confirming Website, www.WriteInRon2012.com

Many of us have been praying for a miracle--and many of us have never relented in that belief. No doubt, God works in mysterious ways. Many of us have felt that because of all the good that this movement represents, we will be blessed. This could be one of those divine blessings.

The Obama people have already wooed them. Romney gave them no creedence, though they were willing to receive him. However, we the Ron Paul people are reaching out, and thank God they have accepted. Furthermore, they are willing to vote on principle just to make the point, that they are sick and tired of that old party system bloated with false promises.

This is the real deal. We are taking these votes AWAY from Obama and Romney. Here is what he requested:

* who are our favorite, dedicated liberty candidates who will support our freedoms and the Constitution--and who are real RP people (bring the troops home, end the Fed, and more)
* when are such candidates up for re-election
* what is each candidate's district and state
* will our movement be willing to raise money to fund such candidates, which will be matched by the ethnic block

He is excited, too, that through www.WriteInRon2012.com the votes of all liberty candidates will be counted and confirmed.

This is the intial post. Who can help me achieve this? SovereignJanice work is thorough. However, it must be vetted to be 1000% sure that the candidates truly are what they claim. Bottom line: if we do this right, they will remain a part of this liberty movement forever. Let's, thus, gather together the list of our best candidates. This group has promised to vote for them.

Bottom line: this man said, "We want to get behnd the liberty movement and vote for Ron Paul but really aim to support all future liberty candidates. We need your help as quickly as possible, so we can organize this effort."

So, if any of you know of top-notch supporters of Ron Paul do give me their names, states, and districts, especially people you know well personally: people just like us!!

See also the strategy with Iowa, which is in play with this group:
http://www.dailypaul.com/253963/lets-win-at-least-one-state-...

Will discuss this, as well as launch the site, WriteInRon2012.com, on the PowerHour with Joyce Riley, September 13 (see the link for this show http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/2012/09/13/power-hour-...)

UPDATE: questions have been asked. The communties are Middle-Eastern, Indonesian, Indo-Pakistani, and North African.



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Caution! Write In Votes Likely Won't Be Counted!

Write-ins for Ron Paul likely won't be counted, in almost all states. Check here:
http://imgur.com/EF2bM

Any state that is not green, you are throwing your vote away. That is almost all states except just a handful. Ron Paul has not filed for write-ins in *any* state, and no one can do that for him. Further, sore-loser laws also invalidate write-ins.

And to top if off, a write-in may even invalidate your entire ballot for anything else you vote on, in some states.

Don't believe people who are trying to get big write-in campaigns going. Not only will write-ins not be counted, but each write-in is a lost opportunity to cast an affirmative vote for the Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson.

If you want to send a rebuke to the GOP for their blatant fraud and corruption in the primaries...

....and if you want to best position the Liberty Movement in 2014 and 2016...

...and if you want to break the 2 party stranglehold currently blocking out all dissenting voices...

...it is imperative to cast a vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson.

A write-in, even if counted, does not help break the 2 party stranglehold. Voting Green Party, or Constitution Party, also does not, since they have no hope of attaining 15% of the vote.

Only voting for Libertarian Gary Johnson gives us a shot at 15%, and therefore a shot at truly impacting the status quo.

Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof

When will the mysterious milliionaire

and billionaires secretly talking to people on this site stop? How stupid do you think people are?

Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both

If nothing else, this is a powerful reminder that these groups

are real and we must go for this. Let's do it with grassroots and meet with the people of the ethnic communities, the church groups, the mosques, the different community centers. Let's introduce our candidates. Let's teach them, at least now, about absentee voting and keeping a copy of their votes. Let them join the effort on WriteInRon2012, our powerful WriteInRevolution!!

I think this is great, to those who speak negatively...

get off this site and never come back. Your attempt to divide us like the Tea Party won't work.

Erm

Yeah, stand by my original point.

I'll just be donating directly to Liberty candidates and not trusting the invisible hand of some unnamed guy to lead some unnamed interest/ethnic group.

I don't much like bribes, and if the guy has the clout to move an entire ethnic group, then he can have a name and he can say who the group is.

Eric Hoffer

Dumb

Let it die. Ron Paul 2012 is over.

What are you going to be - one of those Japanese soldiers on an isolated Pacific Island who didn't get word that WWII was over, and is still fighting it in 1975?

Give it up man.

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

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I really hate to start a

I really hate to start a conspiracy theory without knowing the details but it seems to me that those bent on propping up Dr. Paul after his campaign ended are not just those who are not yet ready to move on to the next phase of the movement. Unfortunately I see that it could be beneficial to both Romney and Obama for that matter to attempt to fracture the movement as much as possible so that it doesn't impact the 2012 election and beyond as much as it could.

I think of it this way, if I were a power hungry politician who wanted to wipe do as much damage to our movement what would I do at this point?
1. Get behind the minority trends in the movements, whether it be conspiracies or alternative candidates and other fringe topics and try to bolster them at a time like this to draw peoples attention to these topics instead of the big picture.
2. Start as many squabbles as possible with others while posing as participants in the liberty movement.
3. Try to convince the remaining few to join my side because all of the other choices have no chance.

From what I can tell all of the above are occurring it's beginning hard to tell exactly who is honestly with the movement and who is against us. Unfortunately it's either one or the other because we don't have a whole lot of people who Dr. Paul has woken up that are in any way on-the-fence when it comes to questions of politics and whether they are staying with the liberty movement.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is we should be very cautious who to trust, so much in fact to realize that our sense of caution itself is likely to be used against us by political opponents.

Agreed

Not only that, they make our movement look extremely dumb.

1.5 million votes? From where? Give me a break.

This reminds me of how the 911 'conspiracy' movement evolved. The first wave was real investigation and evidence.

The second wave came on with all this dumb stuff about phantom planes. "There were no planes at all."

The second wave was used to discredit the first wave. And to some extent, it worked. I think the same thing is going on here.

At this point, anyone who thinks Ron Paul still has a shot is either delusional or is out to harm the movement's reputation, as Jeff-cubed here points out.

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Your concerns are appreciated. The opportunity is real. The

groups are disenfranchised. However, achieving audiences with them and to do it systematically is a major project.

Caution is advised in any issue, without a careful scrutiny and assessment. These people have mobilized successfully large blocks of voters before. Our movement has yet to be able to do so. Will keep everyone here posted as this all develops.

Right now, there is an effort to create interest for our liberty-minded candidates in each state versus the stock establishment ones.

Perhaps the outcome of this is that we, as a team, will do the same in a grassroots fashion.

We know, internationally, Paul is loved. Now, we just need to do the job in the ethnic communities living within.

Many Liberty Candidates on Ballot

Paul lost the Republican Nomination, Why not spend time helping the hundreds of Liberty Candidates on the ballot for State, Local and Federal Offices?

There are 124 Liberty Candidates who won their Primaries in New Hampshire and will be on the November Balot.
http://rlcnh.org/press-releases/rlcnh-celebrates-extensive-p...

Why focus on write-ins. when they will never be reported? Come on people, there is real work to do. Find a Liberty Candidate in your area and help them get elected.

That's the whole purpose of this, to mobilized votes in large

numbers for liberty-minded candidates. The voters are being encouraged to "do something new" and not continue to stay with the same, old, way, which leads to their betrayal. 95% of the effort is here.

Simultaneously, voters will be encouraged to Write-In Ron Paul in the states where this is counted. All efforts thus far, though, have been on preparing for supporting and funding liberty-minded candidates.

There are huge numbers of such ethnic populations, who we should mobilize for future campaigns. They are all amenable to the liberty candidates. Think of the Polish and Indonesian communities, who are already fans. We should find a way to mobilize all North African and Middle Eastern communities, even if it is done in grassroots way.

It is all for the taking. We have the candidates. Let's increase the numbers of our votes dramatically by working with the cultural populations.

The communications thus far with the people of this

large American community have provided a shining ray of hope in a sea of darkness. These people are so disenfranchised by Obama and Romney: they just want to join our movement. You would think that any truly sincere Ron Paul person would be thrilled.

I'm so proud of many of you here who are holding to the torch and willing to explore this. Already, these Americans are being connected to liberty candidates. The more support and solidarity we show them, truly, the more they will come to us.

Dr. Paul is right: let's make friends not enemies. Any true Ron Pauler would know that.

Please help in anyway you can. I have a conference call tomorrow with one of our people running for office in Ohio; he will hopefully meet with the community, there.

If any of you know of someone running for office that will represent us honorably, let me know. I'll make the connection.

Hey!

Dr. K, thanks for all your work in Tampa. I have not had the good fortune of meeting you, but I know several who did get interviewed by you. I get the fact that some people want to remain anonomous because we believe that BIG BROTHER may be watching, here is one of our own rp4pres (?????) playing BIG BROTHER. I have less and less respect for him as I see these posts. Did he attack Eric as well who spent 4 months of his life developing the Super Brochure and then countless of hours with Curt mailing them out and helping get even more awareness to people about Dr. Paul. Eric was working so incredibly hard, he sounded like he needed to be in the hospital from exhaustion. I helped 3 steps do mailings to 5 states, are you kidding me with this rp4pres who started when she was 13, now with these posts it makes me think she is 14. Divide and conquer is the montra of the tri-lateral commission, the bilderbergs, agenda 21, the RNC, the UN, the globalists. This rp4pres has hit below the belt AND YES it makes me think she may be just what others have said a paid troll.

I tried to talk to her, but she just came with more insults and lies, nothing to back up her claims either, sounds so familiar. TheGranger.

there is no password

There is no initiation. If you want to join the liberty movement, then join the liberty movement, the more the merrier. If you join and are not very active beyond voting for liberty canidates...no loss to the movement. A small positive is still positive, and I'll take it.

Josh Brueggen
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Just so you know.. Most of these people coming to the "rescue"

of Cass Ingram, K. Khaleel or whoever hell he really is.. Are some of the very people who are also accused of wrong doing with facts to back them up.

4Constitution IS Steve Parent. If you don't know who that is.. Look him up.

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Quit!

With freedom comes responsibility. You need to remember that as a so-called patriot. You have the responsibilty to remember the golden rule and have proof of something. You have none. STOP SLANDERING ME! I AM NOT STEVE PARENT!

Okay, I'll play along.

What's your name then?

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Hello, thought you might want to send some prayers.

Hello all,

Well, it was a long and tough visit, but Jim did very well getting through it. We went in a bit after 4:30 p.m. and left about 8:30 p.m. He was starving and a few ofhis friends met with him and we went and ate and got a Starbucks. This was pretty challenging for him, but he slept great all night long. He really likes visitors because he recognizes faces and it seems to help with his memory. We are going to have at least 3 more consults and may need around the clock care for a little while now....

I was lucky enough to score a hospital bed that will just make it easier with his shoulder injuries to get up and out of bed. I may have to make room at my home unless someone has any better ideas. He will have good food and I hope visitors, I can take him to his appointments and I know I can do this for the next couple of weeks without any issue.... (?)

I cannot repeat what the doctor said he did to himself because of the profanity, but...... ;0). I think you get the picture.

Jim is healing with amazing speed, the bruise on his left side is almost completely gone and for those of you who saw it know this is amazing. Each day more of his memory is coming back, some personal things he was able to recall that he had not been able to recall before, yes!!

His humerous was broken and he disloacted his scapula and his humerous, he has 22 staples in his arm. His left interior sinus wall is fractures as well as the left side of his forehead. His memory is better, but he does not remember one day to the next. He does not remember his cousin coming to get him or being in the hospital. He does not remember anything from the convention, BUT he did remember an interview, but it was vague.

Thanks to all the good food, the great prayers, the healing energy, and the massage work, I feel blessed to witness his recovery. He will still need some assistance. Marge, thank you for staying with him last night. Ed, thank you for covering tonight, I will see you at the docs at 11 a.m. Awesome....lots of love.... Bill, hopefully we can get together about this weekend and arrange some things.

Also, I want to put out some prayers and thoughts to Sands out in Yerington. Sands was heavily involved in the Ron Paul group in 2008 and she has done some wonderful work this time around as well, BUT she needs us to send her some good healing energy and prayers. As most of you know her battles and she has been doing this for a long time now. Please think of her today and put her in your prayers for the next while. Thank you.

Absolutely but not through you.

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I KNOW YOUR JESSE BENTON

I KNOW YOUR JESSE BENTON! You are the root of all that is evil rp4pres! Why else would you be so divisive for no reason! I have watched you for a long time and I saw your website name was the same as Jesse Benton's email!I have all the proof needed to show the world who you really are! I am releasing this evidence on my new website assholeswhoneedattention.com. I have video of you taking your payoff money! I used to think you were just a 40 year old virgin who lived in his mothers basement and trolled the DP in order to keep his mind off his midget porn addiction. But now I see the TRUTH! Stop your shenanigans lest we call your mother JESSE!

Gigady Gigady

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seriously, you go on here as rp4pres and you have the nerve

to ask 4Constitution her name, what a joke!? Are you 4 real? She has more class in her little toenail. Do you take your sabatoge to other RP forums and drag people's names through the mud? The RNC was at least honest about who they are, "dude."

Really? Get off her case, it is so uncool and not in any way liverty minded or Dr. Paul.

Take these www.3StepsTowardFreedom.com to assist Ron Paul in becoming our next Commander In Chief. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-480OMya3U

No, I won't get off of "her" case.

and I prefer Liberty.. Maybe you like liverty better?

I guess as about as real as $Constituion asking for my address a little bit ago.

"Give me your address"

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Clearly than I will take the liberty to tell you to

go blank yourself. You are a joke and she is a good person. Jim is a great guy. Why don't you give up your name? Right, what kind of question is that, really? After all the threats you have made.

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Ohhhhh how fun.

I love watching people try to spin things and manipulate for an emotional response. :)

Jim may be a great guy but that doesn't mean you people aren't connected to scams. Scammers often attach themselves to credible sources.

I have anonymity and deserve it.. People who ask for money do not. End of story. If you're not willing to disclose to us your info you shouldn't be asking for cash.

So sorry..better luck next time.

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As 4Con has told you and I agree that I really wish this

was some sort of scam. At least this way we would not be fighting so hard to help him. 4Con is entirely invested in helping the movement and people, she is at the point of exaustion to help him. While you joke on here she is feeding him good food, watching his meds, helping him out of bed, and with his memory. I dare not tell you how much he is suffering because you would probably take advantage of his situation. Do you see 4Con at anytime doing chip-ins that did not involve RP, superbrochures or someone in need that could NOT be verified. The answer is no, admit you are wrong. All the amazing folks that have donated will know exactly how their donations have helped. Had you looked at 4Cons posts you would see where some of it has helpled. You spend to much time accusing and thinking you really have her pegged instead of researching. You spend to much time sabbatoging and coercing, instead of learning the facts.

Take these www.3StepsTowardFreedom.com to assist Ron Paul in becoming our next Commander In Chief. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-480OMya3U

This has been midly amusing but it's getting late and I have

animals to feed before I go to bed.

Tear for 4"Con"

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Dr. K is a class act.

RonPaulProducts, creator of the Ron Paul Super Brochure, has had an extremely positive relationship with Dr. K and LibertyUSA PAC.

I would invoice him with no questions asked because I know his word is as good as gold.

Dr. K's continued commitment to spread the message of Liberty is inspiring. He has chosen to do this by getting areas of the country to write in their vote for Dr. Paul. I hope he reaches his goal of over one million.

In Liberty,

Curt
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Dr. K is a class act! When I was down and out Dr. K

empowered me with a case of Super Brochures and 2nd Amendment Flyers to make a difference in my community. He paid shipping costs and never asked for a dime. He made a huge difference here in my community and for that I am extremely grateful and most respectful.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Ask him why he has multiple names as a Doctor.

Ask him why he post things as if he isn't the other name.

I doubt very seriously that his name is Dr.Cass Ingram or Dr. Kasim Khalil.

Here's another one of his names.. Different spelling this time. The implication is that someone else posted that on Cass Ingrams Blog.. Honest people don't play games like that.

http://drcingram.blogspot.com/

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