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Tom Woods clears the air on Jesse Benton

Tom Woods: Ron Paul campaign chairman Jesse Benton is going to head up the campaign of Mitch McConnell. Gee, now why did those incorrigible naysayers have so many unkind words for him?

People who said Benton was positioning himself all along for bigger things in the GOP were scoffed at. Why, Jesse has a secret plan to get Ron Paul the nomination at the last minute!

Well, now we know the real secret plan.

Ask yourself this: how much money would you have to be paid to work for an enemy of the things you’re supposed to stand for? Maybe now people will understand why Jesse would fly into a tirade after some of Ron’s most heroic moments, when the rest of us were cheering.

I could go through a lengthy catalogue of problems with Benton. The grassroots folks already know a lot of them, so there’s probably no need. What’s done is done.

Not that the world revolves around me, but just a word about how I was treated.

http://www.tomwoods.com/b...

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Video: Tom Woods Unloads on Jesse Benton and John Tate
Interviewed by Mark Edge of Free Talk Live.

http://youtu.be/Sw_B5bx8GKc

Published on Sep 13, 2012 by LibertyEvolution



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Some DPer's took umbrage with my dramatization in August...

...of how Benton's negotiations with the Romney Campaign probably went, but now I think I may have been too soft on him.

Here's the link:

http://www.dailypaul.com/250670/the-benton-romney-negotiatio...

That was great work you did!

I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks!

Posted an opinion without proof.

True or not you didn't offer any evidence.

Free includes debt-free!

It's not a legal brief...

It was my suspicion dramatized based on my read of the evidence to date, which included the Penny Freeman interview, Justin Raimondo's column on Trgyve Olson's infiltration and link-up with Benton, and the official campaign's harikiri since May. Turns out I got the gist of it just about right.

Yup. By that time there was naught but to Press on!

It was good to see our delegates take it to the end.

Free includes debt-free!

Benton needs to be cuffed and stuffed

This liar and cheat was probably on the take from the romney campaign all along... It certainly would not surprise me... I'm not going anywhere near any cadidate he has dealings with...

Unfortunatly I can't say on here what I REALLY think should be done to him, as I don't want the gestapo knocking on my door...

But FUCK YOU BENTON. Oh, and keep that vest on...

Audit Jesse Benton

You may be on to something there. If Benton was getting paid by the Romney team there may be a paper trail, although you would probably need access to Romney's offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands, Switzerland or Bermuda.

Ed Rombach

There is only one thing

we all seem to be overlooking. I am totally opened to being corrected if I am wrong. Wasn't Jesse Benton's wife's mother Lori Pyaett (RP's dtr)the one that had control of the campaign money?

My opinion is Ron Paul was sabotaged by his own family, and it was not just Benton.

This priceless quote from the Book of Mormon sums up...

...the guiding principle our dear Ron Paul SHOULD HAVE followed:

1 Nephi 4:13 ...It is better that one man should perish than that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelief.

It would have been better to risk upsetting your granddaughter for a season (by firing her traitorous husband), rather than let an entire nation slide down to tyranny.

We have to admit, this is a major weakness for a leader. We see by his inability to purge the bad apples, that Ron is not perfectly wise by any stretch. For all his greatness, he is a mortal.

Yes, Dr. Paul shares blame in the debacle of Bentonism: "Bentonism" is the playing down of Ron Paul’s most popular and important ideas, the impatience with and purging of people who champion those ideas, and an obsessive eye to GOP respectability.

Of course Ron Paul would disagree with having somebody with a Bentonist philosophy, AND YET, he let a Bentonite run his campaign, with devastating consequences. If RP has any regrets, I hope he can make up for it by purging his organizations of the Bentonites because surely Benton planted many of his kind!

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

I took a lot of heat

for similarly critiquing Dr. P's handling of newsletter type-issues during the Campaign

http://www.dailypaul.com/199578/analysis
http://www.dailypaul.com/200001/open-suggestion-list-for-the...

and sadly, this affirms my case: someone can brush aside personal misgivings but
politically speaking, a lack of public discipline [~'purging bad apples'] can be devastating.

Oh well, the cause for liberty endures and I still am grateful to Ron for his contributions

good article

I was pretty much on the fence about Benton, until I read this article.

What say you Doug Wead?

You have been Benton's greatest cheerleader. So what say you now? Will you somehow spin this? Or can I assume that you are completely flabbergasted by the goings on and completely disappointed in your oft times recent hero? Also, are you the other campaign insider to which Tom refers?

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

I don't think I would trust

I don't think I would trust Wead simply because he's an MLM guy and MLMs are *designed* so that their salespeople lose money, all the while telling them that profits are just around the corner.

Wead did well in the interviews and was a smooth talker, which you have to be to sell people on MLM.

Re: What say you Doug Wead?

In the video at this link, Gary Franchi, who founded the RevolutionPAC along with Tom Woods, states that Benton and Tate worked to undermine the efforts of the RevolutionPAC.

http://mises.org/community/forums/t/30925.aspx

"I hate government as much as government hates freedom, and that's a lot." - Mike Malin

Check out my PowerPoint: http://www.slideshare.net/anarcholibertarian/why-do-they-hat...

And my Ron Paul vs. Lincoln video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi

jeffjeffjeff's picture

If that were the caes

If that were the caes wouldn't it also have been illegal seeing that a SuperPAC cannot coordinate with the campaign.

Wead has been

spinning all along in my opinion. Jesse the genus" clinched it for me.

"Also, are you the other campaign insider to which Tom refers"

I was thinking the very same thing, but why wouldn't Wood just come out and name him?

Clearly, Benton was running

Clearly, Benton was running the campaign with the thought of keeping Ron "mainstream" by disassociating the campaign from Woods and other more principled "fringe" libertarians. Benton surely thought that by doing so he'd win more votes than those who might be scared away by the more radical libertarianism promoted by Woods and others.

Problem is, Ron's principles are the same as Wood's, so distancing the campaign from Intellectuals like Woods was distancing the campaign from it's intellectual center. Stupid move, in my book.

Benton is likely not even libertarian.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

The thing about Woods is that

The thing about Woods is that I believe he has the ability to convert rank and file neocons and conservatives because he is articulate, interesting, and knows the issues to extend to them. I don't think he would be seen as fringe to regular people, though he might be so to wonks with an ax to grind.

Agreed

I think this is the most likely case. Benton is a politicker. He can run a good campaign, most likely a great campaign for a normal politician. Paul isn't a normal politician though, so it just doesn't work.

I don't think it's some grand conspiracy honestly, I just think Benton and Paul don't really mix well. He's be a great addition to McConnell's game, but I think McConnell is a scumbag honestly. Lets hope at least a little of Paul rubbed off on Benton and may rub off on McConnell.

Eric Hoffer

Agreex2

I agree with everything you both said. I find it really disappointing that Benton treated Tom Woods this way. There are people in the movement who do scare regular voters, but I seriously doubt Woods should be included in that group.

Since we don't have a time machine, it's hard to say whether someone else would have done better than Benton. It would have been a tough campaign no matter what.

What counts is that the Liberty movement is still here and that we keep fighting to re-instate our values in the way our government conducts itself.

Tom Woods 2016

...but we'll need Obama 2012 to make that a possibility...

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

2016?

Do you really think there will be an election in 2016? This was our last chance.

Well....

Maybe you have insight that I don't and I'm all out of assumptions at this point...what will happen is at this point a mystery, although it may be actuarially assessed by a cruncher with more data than I have.

I'll put it to you this way...I hope there is a 2016...

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Not really because your

Not really because your assuming that if Romney wins the election he will still be popular in 2016.

True

...and there is further assumption that, by 2016 a Libertarian (or some other) party could as yet remain in the shadows. That major malfunction is on the way is hardly debatable now that QE-infinitum is on the way. How that will affect the political landscape is indecipherable as of yet. But history shows us that the duopoly has successfully enacted their agenda via the pittance of one "color" against another. I see no reason for this not to continue.

No matter how "unfavorable" Romney becomes..the manipulation of the duopoly will most assuredly be enacted again...unless the Crystal Packin' Mama's of the "new age" are somehow right and a new vibratory consciousness riding on photons emanating from the Galactic Core acts to wake up the world to their enslavement.

Until then I ask, when was the last time a party dropped an unpopular presidential incumbent who still desired to stand for election? Do you somehow see Romney coming to this decision in four years in some contrite "I phucked-up" manner, or might "he" (i.e.: RNC propaganda machine) see his "failures" as "someone else's" fault (e.g.: Obama and the obstructionist Republicans in Congress)?

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

This is one RP position that

This is one RP position that I am finding very difficult to understand. When I first learned of RP back in 2008 all I needed to do was cross reference the Constitution to find out that RP was, yet again, correct. But in this case I am not so sure. This might be the first time that I find myself questioning RP's judgement.

Why would RP keep Benton on as campaign manager if Benton was not the best person for the job? I find it hard to believe that RP would allow nepotism to tarnish his impeccable reputation of integrity.

...

Ron Paul

Knew the " establishment" would never let him win. I wish he would have put more emphasis on the electronic fraudulent vote counters. Also I don't understand why he just stopped everything for over 3 months at his very peak success. After meeting with Bernanke for lunch. I wish I knew the truth.

Yay Ron Paul!!!!
Freeeeeeedom calls!!

doug wead and tom woods stories align

doug says the surrender order was given in michigan.

there are but 2 public figures that I trust implicitly

One is Tom Woods.
The other is Kenneth O'Keefe
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe)

He has already exchanged his 30 oz of silver

... for $1,039.80 in federal reserve notes. Good luck with that Benton!