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Should we sue Jesse Benton?

You know, there are a number of things Jesse Benton could come under lawsuit for, including fiduciary duty. The last campaign solicitation letter, after the campaign was already intentionally throwing things, looks pretty bad asking for needed funds - and it turns out they had a 2 million dollar surplus.

I suspect Benton has had his hands in the till as well. I've waited until the campaign was over before saying anything to see how Benton would act in the end, but the end is over.

The discovery process of a lawsuit, any lawsuit, would likely turn up many interesting things we didn't know.

Now is not the time for lawyers to go to on holiday. Now is the time to go fishing!




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Obtaining money under false pretenses is called extortion.

That is the charge I want hung on Jesse Benton. We were lied to. I want my money back from the C4L and the 2012 campaign or a pound of flesh in the process. I want some real dirt dug up on Benton. The wraith of Constitutionalists has been unleashed. Do The Lawyers for Ron Paul need another job? This one is winnable.

Certainly the "in it win it" moneybomb was criminal fraud.

Benton and Tate should do some "hard time" for it.

I think it would be a good idea

I hope some lawyer wll volunteer some time to begin this.
What bad could happen?
Even Ron Paul should understand he is accountable for the money taken in and spent.
Frankly, as often as he speaks on radio, or other video or recorded and published audio, you'd think he'd say, hey, we have something coming which will show the accounting records.

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War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
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I don't think that would be wise...

There is already the meme being pushed by some that 'the Paul's are in this for the money.' So, that would lend a paragraph or two to these stories: "The problem is so rampant, some former grass-roots supporters are suing the campaign to reclaim their contributions." Not good press.

Not good press.

What does that mean?

There is the manufactured consent. These memes are produced by thousands of paid agents singing the same song.

These memes are often effective just because they create an emotional response.

Gossip is the less technical term. Spreading the dirt by innuendo.

Cede nothing to malice, but move to counter it loudly ~ Aeneid by Virgil

Counter lies and opinions with Truth. Counter injustices and innuendo with Justice.

I can help by only telling truths I know for sure are true.

Are some grassroots supporters suing the campaign? Has paperwork been filed?

Link or it didn't happen.

Free includes debt-free!

Where did the money go - Paul/Benton?

The campaign was always asking for more money but I never saw an audit or any accountability. Where's the money? Who got it and how much? Are there surpluses and how much?

What a deceitful mess.

This is an email I received

This is an email I received from a campaign staffer. [I had communicated with her in the past about other issues during what seemed to be campaign's better days.]

My question to her was identical to yours - basic audit & accountability of where our money went. AND quite frankly a refund, because I don't have confidence in the top-heavy "Campaign for liberty" which is supposed to be semi-neo-con Rand's purse. When I donated, I didn't sign up to donate to Campaign for Liberty or anything to do with Rand Paul. I donated in good faith for Ron Paul's campaign. Anyhow, following is the ignominious response I received:

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Thank you for writing to the campaign and for your support over the past many months. As Dr. Paul said in his speech in Tampa last Sunday, the Revolution is just beginning. You have helped lay the groundwork for a bright future for the liberty message.

Per FEC requirements, the campaign is required to refund contributions that are illegal or over the allowable amount. The campaign has also made refunds to individuals whose donations were more than they intended through a technology problem and when that request was made in a timely manner after the donation was made.

I'm sure you can understand that the funds from donations made over a year or many months ago were spent on primary, caucus and campaign operations including advertisements and voter outreach. No campaign can have a refund policy that allows for refunds to be made months later, after funds have been spent.

Unfortunately, there are reports being circulated that greatly overstate the amount of money the campaign has in the bank. Even though the active campaign is at an end, like all other campaigns, this campaign still has bills to pay. The campaign has outstanding expenses from recent activities, as well as all of the wind-up costs yet to be incurred. Once all bills have been paid and if there are leftover funds, those funds will be handled in the appropriate manner according to Federal Campaign laws.

Know that our efforts did indeed bring about change in this election. In the words of Dr. Paul:

"Due to our Liberty Movement's youth, energy, and growing numbers, establishment Republicans are recognizing their days of controlling the national GOP are coming to an end. Even now, they are being forced to recognize that our issues - like finally auditing the Federal Reserve - are not going away.

"My hope is, with your continued support, it will not end until free markets, sound money, constitutional principles, respect for individual liberty, and a common-sense foreign policy are all restored in America.

"For your generosity and all that you'll continue to do in the name of liberty, thank you."

In liberty,

Carolyn Smith
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Last Solicitation letter from Benton's Campaign

I'd like to tack on the last solicitation letter that was sent out from Benton's campaign, because it was dishonest.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You can mark me down with you

You can mark me down with you and your wife's account Benton, but a good lawsuit would show it all.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

"This particular lie has the

"This particular lie has the sequence of events reversed. I joined the PAC only after I had been blacklisted. But I kept my mouth shut during the campaign every time I saw people say, “Woods isn’t allowed to work with the campaign because of the PAC.” I never corrected anyone. I kept the real story a secret for Ron’s sake. No one on earth can fail to understand why I might want to tell it now, to set the record straight."
Tom Woods
http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/my-memories-of-jesse-bento/

Me in above message - 'I've waited until the campaign was over before saying anything to see how Benton would act in the end, but the end is over.'

A lot of people haven't said anything during the campaign because they didn't want to sabotage Ron Paul's chance, but Benton and a few people with him were sabotaging Ron Paul and the grassroots people the whole time.

Now is the time to weed them out so we can move on.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.