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Granger: "leavcing the GOP, not claiming out prise, throwing away a tremendous opportunity"

http://www.dailypaul.com/254911/paul-supporter-destroys-romn...

"Is no different that what my GOP central committee chair said yesterday. He even went further, but informed us that after congress approved the new defense bill, Obama inserted into it that Americans can be enemies of the satet by speaking up against him."

"And to top it off, my chiar admitted, what happened to Ron paul delegates was WRONG, and he's far from alone in Republicans being upset that they weould do that. So the GOP is waking up, and looking to Ron Paul Republicans for guildence,, as in what do we do about it.. you guys KNOW the constitution, so how do we fix this?"

"This is the blwback that we are getting from the RNC, plus we just gained new central committee seats nationawide as Republican membersip increased."

"Those who are leavcing the GOP and not claiming out prise, those seats, are throwing away a tremendous opportunity to educate a GOP that is now listening to us."

WE ARE THE FUTURE BE THERE.

Editor: She can't spell/type, but she has 'real life' intel.

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Oh Look! Another Divisive Post?

..That blew up in the poster's face? Lol!
Not sure where Barracuda stands...satire?...support?...However:

She's right, you know (The Granger)
If her committee membership isn't so big....Why is it renting so much space in your head? (Granger's detractors)

This is right up there with the Salem Witch Trials as dramatized by Arthur Miller's "The Crucible", if it wasn't so pathetic.

Mob Opinion run riot?...McCarthyism?...GJ/Lawyer4Freaks?

Like I said....Pathetic.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I find this alarming. Does anyone know the Bill #?

I find this alarming:

From OP quote: "...but informed us that after congress approved the new defense bill, Obama inserted into it that Americans can be enemies of the satet by speaking up against him.""

If I am not misreading this, I am understanding that one is now an enemoy of the state if one speaks out against the president. Those are serious words. Has anyone else heard this? Do you know the bill number?

U have my support

I am happy to support anyone who stands up for the libery movement and I am still a republican. Anything you can do to make me feel more at home in the GOP is deserving of respect. Thanks

Your an easy one to help out since your already here.

It is trying to get people to add to the numbers that is rough to accomplish.

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Just because your in a GOP position

doesn't mean you have to vote GOP, just don't announce your intentions.

staying R here and staying involved in local county central cmte

but not voting romney or johnson. might stay home. might write in Paul. who cares. Voting day is just a ritual - not an exercise of power. It's what you do the other 364 days of the year that matter. At least that's the case for federal elections. Local elections are more important.

That's how we'll win.

We need to all get involved with our local Republican Party and work on local candidates. If we work on getting local candidates elected, taking over state Republican machines, and getting Liberty candidates elected to Congress and the Senate, in eight years we should be strong enough to take the White House. We won't have to worry about voter fraud when we're manning the booths. We won't have to worry about establishment corruption when we're the establishment. And we won't have to worry about them stealing the nomination from us when we are the "them."

Until.

There is different strategy implemented in the Revolution, this is the main one.

We have many folks that do not want to follow in Dr. Paul's example and are not giving the alternative strategy.

Vote.

Swing the electoral college off a little.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Why all the vitriol?

Working for Liberty from within the GOP - Great!
Working for Liberty from outside the GOP - Great!

The method is not as important as the intention. Time will tell whose strategy is best, but all of this infighting is pointless.

Unfortunately, not every state provides open opportunity for participation in the DEM/GOP parties. For instance, I'm in NY. I registered republican to vote for Dr. Paul in the primary, but I couldn't become a delegate. There is no caucus system here. Unless you devote YEARS to making inroads into the party apparatus, you will wield no power here. And, even after years of trying, you may end up nowhere, because it comes down to luck and who you know. Of course, that was before I witnessed all of the shenanigans the GOP pulled during the primary season. That has convinced me there is little-to-no chance of making changes to the GOP in the short term. Perhaps over the very long term (in states which provide greater opportunities for it), but not anytime soon. Therefore, I've already filled out the paper work to return to "no party" Independence.

I could never vote for Romney or Obama. However, people are free to vote for whomever they want. Worry about your own vote. Leave others to theirs.

Considerations for the 2012 U.S. Presidential Race from the Mind of a Political Independent-Use this tool to educate the unconverted and prove support for Dr. Paul among Independents.

I would like to suggest

That if you could get over the RNC offense, which has united many of us in the GOP, as the GOP body did NOT like what they saw.. IOWs upper management has a problem right now.. We ALL know Romney was forced on us.. So if you can understand, many of us believe TPTB want Obama and we're not going to comply to the manipulation, we are going to hold ourselves to the Constitution.

Bare that in mind, and know.. all those GOP registrations added up to NEW committee seats in the GOP. I was a guest for a year before I earned an appointemnt fro challenging those who missed three consecutive meetings.. so you can get a seat, if you want one, and if there are other Ron paul Republicans on your committee,, it's SWEET going to meetings. It reminds me of What Daily Paul used to be. Check it out, see for yourself.

positivity is only helpful

... in an environment where "truthers" are respected, where wisdom of philosophers and visionaries is studied, and where action is understood:

"all that evil requires is for good men and women to do nothing"

http://rastamusic.com/

Truthers

Respect is a two way street.

Truthers do not offer a solution. That is the problem.

Ron Paul is offering a solution, restore America to constitutional government. That is no simple task, but it is something we take an oath to so it is something we can work on.

911 represents many things to many people, to me, it represents international corporate power, the solution is the Constitution.

What's your solution? That is what you bring to a committee, and lucky for me, it's Ron Paul's message, so that's where I'm at.

Truthers marginalize themselves and remain powerless to do anything about the WRONG they understadn as a WRONG, but offer no solutions.

That's what I'm thinking

"Working for Liberty from within the GOP - Great!
Working for Liberty from outside the GOP - Great!"

We have to fight on all fronts.

I can't vote Romney, as much as I dislike the Obama presidency. Bush, who I voted for TWICE, was the guy who said:

"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."

That just keeps running through my head every time I think that I have to vote Romney:

"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."
"I violated my free market principles to save the free market."

A Republican like Romney seems every bit as likely to do something like that. EVERY BIT. He's just as vague on principles as Bush. Obamacare was upheld due to Roberts, just the kind of supreme court justice Romney would nominate. All my reasons for voting Republican party for presidency have flown out the window.

"Fool me once... shame on you. Fool me... I won't get fooled again."

Now, I AM going to vote for a Republican member of the House (since I don't see a viable liberty candidate, at least not yet), and will likely vote for Republicans in state and local, unless there is a liberty candidate option. Congress and state and local is where the action is going to be from here on out.

It could easily happen.

That's all that is needed is - numbers.

The problem is the RP people in NYS, at least Western New York, do not want to get involved.

That is the #1 core reason and problem.

I tried, but couldn't quite figure it out...

I'm in NYC which is sort of a state unto itself. I registered GOP for Dr. Paul. I didn't enjoy it, because Bush the younger makes me sick, and because I never had much faith in the two-party system. After I did that, I contacted the campaign asking for information on how I can go about becoming a delegate. I got no reply. I admit I was very green. I still don't know that much about the inner-workings. However, my impression is that in NYC it's quite difficult to make inroads unless you know the right people. In my case there simply wasn't enough time even if I got lucky.

Considerations for the 2012 U.S. Presidential Race from the Mind of a Political Independent-Use this tool to educate the unconverted and prove support for Dr. Paul among Independents.

I don't want to have to key all the stuff in again.

Are you alright if I PM with my phone number and you can give me a call? It would be much easier and I can help you out.

I'll stay a Republican. I'm third generation and I have a son

who is fourth generation.

But I won't vote for Romney. And I DO live in a swing state.

This Republican is voting for Gary Johnson.

That's exactly what the PTB want

GJ is running to divide the GOP vote so Obama will win.

You have to think, Obama just ain't that bad to vote GJ and not give RP GOP a shot under Romney. None of us wahted Romney... it's perfect,, but you would have to be seated in the GOP to see that otherwise all you have is MSM BS and peer pressure from Obamaot acting like Libertarians (and they do a lousy job) to help you make a decision.

All those voting for GJ didn't GET Ron Paul..

All those Ron Paul Republicans on committees.. we GOT Ron paul, and why we're happy.. WE ARE WINNING WE ARE THE FUTURE.. be nice if it could start sooner, but we know.. We have each other and the best and brioghtest will cvontinue to join us, while the rest vote for a Republican who put on a LP button LOL

anyone that isn't

on a committee like you just can't get it can they? you are so high on yourself it is ridiculous! You are the one that doesn't get it and you sound just like all the establishment rinos.

Ron Paul wont endorse romney...why would you???

Again, here we go...

TPTB don't care if Romney or Obama win. They are exactly the same, funded by the same people. The last thing TPTB want is for the country to believe there can be a valid 3rd party option. You are doing exactly what TPTB want.

"All those voting for GJ didn't GET Ron Paul." That is just moronic. All of your posts wreak of collectivism, hero-worship, and a complete inability to think for youself.

You don't get Ron Paul.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

They do care

They are not exacrly the same as they represent people in parties who do not want the same things. TPTB want a NWO and while Romney may front that, he has Ron Paul Republicans, Tea Partyioes, Fiscl Conservatives, constitutionalists and christian conservatives who would oppose him. No one in the Democratic Party wikll Oppose Obama. There's your differnece.

In 1996 Nader sid the two parties were like coke and pepsi and the people were simply asking for water/transparency. I'm proud to say I worked with Nader on three elections. Now I am a RPGOP, inside the GOP and that is what makes the difference. So go ahead and cut down Ron paul's plan, cut down Ron paul Republicans who did what you didn't, and know you deserve Obama, but we don't.

Ron paul stood alone, now there are hundreds of Ron paul's in the GOP. You are not one.

why do you think

all your comments get downvoted so much? i think it is because they are almost incoherent half the time and the parts that are understandable consist of you telling everyone else that you are so much better than them because you are on a committee somewhere.

you seem to me to be exactly the opposite type of person that should be in a leadership position because it fills your head with delusions of grandeur.

romney is the opposite of everything the liberty movement fought for.

Ron Paul wont endorse romney...why would you???

because you don't get it, that's why.

Because that is where the power is

Who has more power in the GOP - someone on a committee or someone waving a sign?

Granger keeps talking about committee stuff because that is where Ron wants us - or at least that is where we can do the most good.

Anyway, Granger has stated that she took an oath to vote a certain way - and she will. Leave it at that. Why argue about it? To what end?

she is becoming one of "them"

Ron Paul got re-elected many times over for his powerfull congressional seat and he never had to compromise his principles and vote for tax hikes or anything else he didn't believe in.

granger is so enamoured with her committee seat that she is willing to compromise and vote for romney. that is a very slippery slope.

even worse than that, she wants to use her "power" to promote romney and get others to vote for him.

romney is the exact opposite of the liberty movement.

I disagree.

Aside from the RP supporters(who I won't call the "R" word),
the rest support neo-con war. Including the christian conservatives, as long as the war is against muslims.
Romney wins and he answers to them.
They put him there.

And you get your information from?

I'm just telling it from my committee seat.. don't agree with my experience.. tell me about yours.

well....

there you go again.

delusions of grandeur from your committee seat!

Well there you go again

More insults.. if that's all you got, you ain't got nothin'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgK7f0MlPEc

you might wanna look in the mirror

on this thread you have called anyone who hasn't done what you've done a coward.

you say anyone who's efforts for the liberty movement differ from yours have had their efforts ignored.

you say anyone that has different thoughts than you are brainwashed by the msm (when all this romney rah rah makes it sound like you've been watching a little too much fox news yourself).

you say that others efforts lead to nothing.

you tell others they need to adjust their tin foil hats.

you continuously use your passive-aggressive belittling of anyone that isn't as good as you because they haven't attained a committee seat.

the worst part is that you do this all in the name of trying to get people to vote for romney.

you don't want insults? you might want to try leading by example.