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The Collapse Is Now & We Must Embrace It.

While running through the posts, comments, and links here on the Daily Paul it seems that there is a prevailing sense of doom. Many of us are projecting the fast approaching event horizon of a colossal black hole.

This calamity comes in many forms: a new stock market crash, a Third World War, a sudden authoritarian declaration of marshal law, and the end of the dollar. These events might be brought about by a false flag event by secret gov't black ops, or perhaps simply a world gone mad on it's obsession with continuing bad economic policies.

But might I present another argument?

These things have already occurred.

As much as we might hate to admit it, let's take a step back for a moment and view our world. We do not possess the lens of history which affords me so much clarity in my studies of the American Revolution and other world changing events. But if there is one thing that I hope to have my fellow DPs realize it is that we need to stop worrying.

Many of us in the light of Ron Paul's failed campaign have regressed into despair, cynicism, and infighting all while trying to predict when the fall will come and in what shape. This however shows our true ignorance because unlike the figures in the chronicles of history, our world is in constant flux. Is it not possible that the "fall" we are all waiting for is already taking place?

I believe that this is more likely than not.

But now is not the time to panic. Now is the time to fight! We must give our all while the remnants of society is still largely intact. Who knows...maybe history will see us as the greatest generation for bringing us back from the abyss? And even if we cannot bring the changes we all seek, I feel that going out fighting is by far superior than cowering in a corner.

Let the Liberty movement be remembered for it's audacity to the challenge the odds, and I GUARANTEE you that once the phoenix rises, those still around will remember us as the voice that was ignored. When the walls come down, it will be the safe philosophy of individual freedom that will have best withstood the onslaught.
And it will upon our model that the next generation will be built.

So my challenge to you is this: let's make the new foundation for the better world today and plant the seeds of the future so that they might grow back once the spring finally arrives.

Let no one's epitaph read: "A good soul, but died in vain."

In Liberty.

Ranger Will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr_OpFxCx-A




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Hey...

Even the most thick skinned, hard core, informed, liberty minded person is starting to be overwhelmed with too much information of things all going wrong at the same time.

People are burning out fast here. Let's all take a break and just try to be kind to other members of this community.

This is some excellent advice

Time for a vacation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSqu8OX9kc

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

No doubt, the fall is taking place.

But at the same time, you could argue that the fall has been taking place for a long long time. America just had such strong liberty roots that its harvest would be quite the squeeze for some time. We have simply been running out of juice; while at the same time losing our minds, as new generations are more helpless than the last.
I see the collapse as a slide down a horizontal plane slowly increasing its slope/angle: At first you don't notice, but soon you lose your balance and for a while everything hangs on. Then you start to slide... relatively slow at first, but always speeding up - until the plane is now verticle and we break loose of the slide itself into freefall. But what is the fall height? What is our terminal velocity?
Of course the 'impending doom' of ww3, hyperinflation and new world currency are very real and very obvious scenarios. But the question should be "How will this affect us?" Food riots? Lockdowns? Humvees and checkpoints at every town entrance? Will government collapse or will it grow? I have to go with History and say it grows.
My big three questions are: Gold/Silver confiscation? Gun confiscation? Military Draft?
I am perfect age to be drafted. I wonder if they will check my DP posting history and immediatley pin a medal on me and say, "He's our boy!"
The last thing you want to do in a time of crisis is panic. Always try and accept things that are in the past and gone - and move forward with what you have. Dont feel hopeless, there is never any better time than right now to get right with God. Make a new friend at every possible opportunity. Thats the best advice I can give anyone.
Or if you prefer Yoda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnFr-DOPf8

But there is one thing

I do keep thinking, though, there is always the possibility that we are totally wrong here. What if we're just a bunch of nutcases and that TPTB are right and everything will just be hunky-dory? I always ask myself this. My gut tells me that we are right.

I'm keeping a copy of "When Prophecy Fails" on hand.

http://www.amazon.com/When-Prophecy-Fails-Leon-Festinger/dp/...

I mean, I'd actually LIKE to be wrong, and that Ron Paul and everyone here is wrong. Economic collapse is not my fantasy.

And if we're right then I can hand it out to others around me who weren't as prepared.

And to what extent will we feel it?

That's the key of my post. It took the Roman Empire nearly 1000 years to truly fall after it continued to survive in the form of the Byzantine state. So what form is the collapse truly taking during our lifetime? I just don't think any of us will really know.

Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened."

Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

The not knowing part is really distressing

It's hard to prepare for something when you don't know the contours of the problem.

Nice quote BTW

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I felt the same for a year or so

I felt the same for a year or so, until one month ago.

The last trends of silver alone were decisive, in my case. YMMV, sure.

Check them out.

Still, I would **love** to be completely wrong, for a little more time (say, more than 6 months), too. I'm no masochist.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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I can't nearly agree, but...

I can't nearly agree, but I can't fully disagree either.

One remark, though:

Gold is already pretty much unaffordable, in more than tiny quantities, anyway.

And after watching the trends over the last 90 days, in parallel to those over the last 30 days, I for sure expect Silver to literally skyrocket, for good, very soon (while gold will gain an unimaginable value).

Let it be heard by he/she who can hear...

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I'll be honest, I don't know a wide enough range of

information about precious metals to figure out how they're doing it but I see them as manipulating the metals market. Maybe it's just that they're manipulating the economy as a whole and that's playing the biggest part but historically silver has kept a certain pace instep with gold. Now it's a great deal off of what it should be.

I see silver taking off as well but I think they'll keep manipulating and it could take a little longer than you or I expect.

I hear talk of silver dropping to 20 and ounce while others say it will skyrocket soon. So who knows.

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Try the range 1/1/2000 to 9/15/2012

Try the range 1/1/2000 to 9/15/2012 :

here, for gold,

and there, for silver.

See how chaotic it gets and keeps shaking so, past/by December 2006, and coincidentally...

Both slope medians are definitely climbing. That's what I can't help to notice.

When I see the economic effects of the Federal Reserve madmen's actions, I also can't help to think of some sort of stochastic resonance at play, and very likely not for the common people's benefit (and freedoms).

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

i think you're right

we are free falling right now, and I think what most of us are worried about is how hard we are going to hit bottom. I think this is the impending doom alot of us feel.

Free Falling Ain't All That Bad

For instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqT6En2O78

But in all seriousness, while I urge people to prepare in whatever way they see fit, I think too many of us have given into the darkness. DPs are much better than that! Prepare? Yes, but if you let it rule your life, then we've lost the battle for our sanity.

Life should be enjoyed, no matter what happens around us.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

I'm with you!

Might as well take the bull by the horns as much as possible.