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The Smoking Gun. WTC7 taken down by CONTROLLED demolition. WTC1 and WTC2 as well. What are we to make of this?

Controlled demolition.

In case you have not seen the new documentary, where now thousands of structural engineers, architects, chemical engineers, and physicists are going on record that IT IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE that those three buildings could have been brought down by office fires, or by even high-impact 767 crashes in regards to WTC1 and WTC2. (You can watch that documentary when you have time here:)

http://video.cpt12.org/video/2270078138/

All...I repeat all...of the three buildings brought down that day...comprising the worst structural "failures" in world history...were done by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Incontrovertible. Irrefutable.

And extremely high-tech, high energy military grade explosives which are able to melt steel in a flash, were used.

This is now, without question.

We have solved the what. Now we turn to the how...and then the WHO.

But the government's official accounts, the FEMA and the NIST reports, are so ridden with fraud, gross negligence, and pseudoscience, that those reports...are CRIME SCENES in and of themselves.

We need to start prosecuting right there and then work our way up...but I digress...

3000 innocent citizens and first responders have died! Who will speak for them?? Who will bring them justice??

And hundreds of thousands of family members and friends to the victims who carry the pain with them to this day...deserve a right to know what happened... rather than being insulted by these incompetent, taxpayer-funded government-sponsored cover-ups to the scene of the worst mass murder in American history.

WTC7 was demolished differently than the Twin Towers: All or most of its basement supports were severed at once....as evidenced by the free fall, or fall at the speed of gravity with no resistance, of the first 108 feet.

In other words, 108 feet, you know, 8 to 10 stories of the building of the lower floors, just ceased to exist in an instant.

Where did they go? Did those floors slip into a parallel universe?

Or were they blown to smithereens?

Certainly the truth...wherever it may lie...is not the, fake, forced, fraudulent model reconstruction that NIST (MIST?) tried to shove down the throats of the American taxpayer, $22 Million Dollars later!

As to the destruction of the WTC1 and WTC2 towers...two of the STRONGEST vertical structures on Earth...the entire buildings were laden with nano-thermite, with complete destruction set to begin just below the airplane impact zones, and timed to look like a "normal" gravitational collapse.

It was a brilliant execution.

[Except there is no such thing as a "normal gravitational collapse." Asymmetrical damage (the jet impacts)...can not lead to a symmetrical global collapse. Physically impossible.]

You heard the first collective shaped charge "ka-POW" of the south tower floors being blown apart just below the jet impact area, then the explosions of the other successive floors were timed and were increasingly masked by the continuous roar of the massive demolition wave which gained velocity and amplitude as it plummeted to Earth.

Very clever.

But, eyes don't deceive...and ears don't....thanks to the advent of cameras and cell phone cameras.

Complete gravitational collapse on super-highrises from office fires no matter how hot?

Doesn't happen.

Has never happened in the nearly 100 years of high-rise history.

Will never happen in the future, as long as the Laws of Physics apply....which they will forever.

Unless thermite is involved.

Which may explain the molten iron in a sheer 'waterfall' of molten metal off of the south tower as its upper 30 floor block begins to deform and rotate down, but a block no more, its angular momentum of all that incredible mass, suddenly neutralizing into dust...as the "collapse" accelerates in earnest, traveling down the former path of MOST resistance (the core) that in seconds has become--by being blown to bits--the NEW path of LEAST resistance.

Hmmm. 30 stories pulverized into powder in two seconds. Very strange.

The path of MOST resistance...becoming the path of LEAST resistance. Very strange.

Molten iron. Very strange.

What possibly could turn most of the mass of 350 vertical feet of an acre-sized building, into wisps, in a few seconds? Or melt its steel columns in the same??

Must be something...of course NOT mentioned in the taxpayer funded NIST and FEMA and 9/11 Commission Reports.

Here is the smoking gun to how the controlled demolition was set up...innocuously...with unrecognizable boxes of military-grade super-thermite sol-gel shaped charges, placed in the core areas hidden from the office tenants, against the bare columns in and around the elevator banks.

Super-thermite melts steel with incredible temperature and exrtreme levels of energy.. and pulverizes the concrete and the non-steel contents in mid-air, as Towers 1 and 2 come down.

Literally all of the floor concrete, gypsum wallboard, and FF&E, including elevators and HVAC equipment... for 110 stories of each building, an enormous weight, was pulverized to a toxic powder as fine as talcum, in mid air in seconds...and it spread out like a volcanic pyroclastic flow, over lower Manhattan...while the melted and distorted steel frames, collapse in a heap below.

Watch another the 18 minute presentation here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3EQV223Y-M&feature=g-user-u



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More attempts to associate the DP community with AJ.

911 is not the issue.

Incompetence in government stood idly by while 911 happened.

Government is no more competent today than it was then.

Government is just a lot bigger and have become more of a threat themselves.

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What if the gov was either complicit or involved?

That would certainly be an absolutely game-changing issue for the American public.

Noam Chomsky's Take

He said there are 2 basic theories:
1) That the government knew about 9/11 but didn't prevent it
2) That the government was in on it

He said that option #1 has been proven many times before (that the government doesn't care much about protecting the citizens) though he didn't say that in a way that sounded (to me) specific to 9/11.

As for option #2, he basically said he thinks there's no way the government was involved. Far too much risk and far too many people to keep quiet. He also said (paraphrasing) "I haven't seen any scientists submit a paper for peer review to a respected publication". I don't know if this was said prior to AE911, though. Not sure when that movement started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-5FAzQoKYs

Silverstein

I watched a "debunk" video just now about Larry Silverstein's "pull it" comment. It says that in 2005 he was quoted as saying "pull it" meant (paraphrasing) "pull the firefighters out of there". That doesn't sit right with me. Why wouldn't he say pull "THEM" as opposed to "IT"?

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"I said you know we've had such terrible loss of life maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse"
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Another interesting thing the video mentions is that "pull it" is apparently NOT a term used in demolition to indicate "bring down with explosives". Personally, I don't know the answer to that one.

Lastly, fire chief Daniel Nigro is quoted as saying "conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit". I don't know what to make of that one but it is interesting to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43F54hR0NW8

Ellen Mariani...

...who appears near the end of the cpt12.org documentary, is apparently the last 9/11 family member that is “still fighting a wrongful death suit for losing a loved one on 9/11." I encourage everyone here to visit the following thread in order to learn a bit more about her current legal and financial battles: http://www.dailypaul.com/259486/and-then-there-was-one-we-ar...

Feel free to reuse any resources/ideas that I post on the DailyPaul on other networking sites.

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This is a fine peer-reviewed paper. Worth your read!

Lots of links and extremely well tested, researched, and written:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/WhyIndeedDi...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

anarchy, my friends. anarchy.

anarchy, my friends. anarchy.

pgrady
f___ all forms of govt.

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Yes...in the pure sense of the word...

Not in the media-spun, propaganda-laced sense of the word...where the term "anarchy" is misrepresented by some black-masked idiots hurling molotovs.

No...TRUE anarchists, like you, are peaceful people.

Anarcho-capitalism is where I am at.

Gotta have a few rules.

But the rules are owned....OWNED....by us....we the people....not by some psychopath NWO oligarchy c*cksuckers who are trying to enslave us all.

And if we don't like the rules...it is our natural right to change them to most effect our safety, our personal liberty, and our HAPPINESS.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

no rules. just natural

no rules. just natural god-given rights. individuals must decide whats right and wrong.

pgrady
f___ all forms of govt.

What good

What good is it if you have many smoking guns, when there's no one to complain to. Who can you report this travesty to? for some investigation or action into the matter.

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Good question.

International tribunal maybe...

Or citizens tribunals.

Heck it worked ad hoc when they strung Mussolini up in the town square. That crude model might work in this case.

Or....we alter or abolish the government as is our natural right to do pursuant to the Declaration of Independence...and start over.

Time for us to take our country...and our government....BACK.

You can't stop the truth...it is like water. It WILL find a way out.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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9/11 Doubts Seep Into the Mainstream as Evidence Accumulates

"The most significant expert may turn out to be Judge Ferdinando Imposimato, the widely respected honorary president of the Italian Supreme Court and legendary mafia hunter who lost his brother in a revenge attack.

(LONDON) - As the annual 9/11 remembrance draws to a close, the world is as split as ever. Not only on whether the Afghan and Iraq invasions were justified, but between those who accept Washington's official 9/11 story and those who do not.

Under the mainstream media radar, the number of those who do not is steadily increasing, forming substantial majorities in places like Pakistan and Egypt and significant minorities even in NATO's heartland countries, France, the UK and the US itself. The issue is not whether, despite his denials, Osama Bin Laden might have wanted to organise the 9/11 attacks but whether Al Qaeda actually had the capability to infiltrate 19 terrorists into the US, including some very well known to the CIA, and the four highly skilled pilots necessary to pull off the spectacular coup. Up to then Al Qaeda's biggest success was setting off two truck bombs in East Africa. (1)

The stereotype promoted by the corporate media of a 9/11 sceptic, a badly educated redneck watching Fox News in a trailer park, could hardly be further from the truth. The website Patriot's Question 9/11 lists hundreds of University Professors, over a thousand architects and engineers and hundreds of aviation professionals who have spoken out against the official 9/11 story."

Read more here:

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september192012/roundup-9...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Another Question

What do people think about the 1993 WTC bombing? Do you believe the "official story" on that one?

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No way.

Neither do I believe for one second the veracity of the 'official story" of the 1996 OKC bombing. It was NOT just Timothy McVeigh.

These mass shootings...all of them false flags...fomented and instigated to bring about gun control....and a direct assault on the second amendment.

The video introduced to destabilized the Middle East? A false flag to try to justify starting new wars with new Moslem countries. And a double false flag to clamp down on free speech and to assault the first amendment.

Since the inception of this radical experiment in freedom and opportunity and innovation called the United States...most of our wars were started with false flag operations.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

2 More Questions

(please correct me if I'm wrong about any of the details)

1) If there was thermite planted in the buildings, how could the planners have been sure that the plane crashes wouldn't have set off the collapse of the building immediately? In other words, wouldn't there have been a "risk" that a plane would've set off the thermite explosions and the building would've collapsed instantly? I guess one possiblility would be that the explanation of events could've been presented as "they (meaning 'the terrorists') flew planes into the buildings for effect and then set off the explosives". Then again, what would have been said if that happened in only 1 of the 2 towers?

2) If I remember correctly, in some of the videos I heard explosions in the background during interviews w/ police/fireman, etc. But these explosions were NOT directly followed by the collapse of a building.

Mind you, I know that there are interviews w/ fireman from that day who said there were explosions directly before building collapses (or as it was happening) but, just to clarify, I'm not referring to those explosions.

I guess the simple explanation would be that there could've been non-termite-related explosions happening that day as well.

Demolitions are usually not

Demolitions are usually not planted at the top floors of buildings (where the planes hit). Demolitions are usually planted at structural points, areas to weaken the building to allow it to collapse in its footprint, and at bottom elevations. Which appears to corroborate your second point and eyewitness accounts and video.

Good questions, I'll try to

Good questions, I'll try to answer what I can.

1) Thermite has a very high ignition point and as such it is very difficult to accidentally ignite it(I remember seeing a video where this is discussed and IIRC it is somewhere in excess of 800C - could be wrong about that number though).

2) It is most likely to weaken the structure prior to the collapse initiation. If all the explosions had occurred during the collapse perhaps there wouldn't have been enough destruction of intact structure to ensure a complete collapse at the high speeds observed.

Most likely there were many different types of explosives/incendiaries used in the "collapse". The reason thermite is brought up so much is because of the iron rich spheres/elemental aluminum/etc... which strongly suggest its use.

"My theories explain, but cannot slow the decline of a great civilization. I set out to be a reformer, but only became the historian of decline."
- Ludwig Von Mises

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Indeed.

Well said and substantiated by the evidence.

There were definitely conventional explosives used to create carnage and mayhem in the buildings. Hundreds of eyewitness and audio evidence testimony of shaped charge explosions going off.

They were the precursors for the spectacular and horrific finale of the military grade thermite cutter charges that blew the buildings to bits and wilted the steel like spaghetti in boiling water.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Deep Throat, my contact in the 911 operation management responds

Dear Benjamin [full name withheld], wouldn't real planes have complicated the 911 operation somewhat? Kind regards, El Buggo

Hi again El Buggo, nice to hear from you again. You are dam right that real planes would have complicated the operation. But do you think that we could have pulled that off in the first place?

Hard to get competent pilots for this, and how could we know that they would hit the target where we wanted? What if they messed up all this work we had done with the explosives for the demolition? We could of course have used remote control instead of pilots, but always some risk with that too. What if the planes didn't penetrate the solid concrete slab supported steel facade, and just fell straight down on the pavement? Wouldn't be so spectacular I think, and would be harder to explain the collapse later. And what if one of the planes missed the target completely, and crashed in Central Park instead? Would be quite odd if they couldn't find the pilots anywhere, and only the remote control boxes. And how should we then explain that the towers fell? Should we still pull it or not? Wouldn't be good if an investigation found lots of wired explosives in the building either.

I'm glad we faked it, even if we screwed up big time. The animation team couldn't even get the impact point consistent between the different videos, as you can see here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonyc31/5728754807/in/photos...

But fortunately, no one notice even this. The movement is spinning their wheel chasing the Government. Would be really bad if they figured out that we used media mostly. We need to keep the indoctrinating channels credible so people don't disconnect completely and trow out their TVs. As long as they are chasing the Government, we will be fine. Best regards, Benjamin [full name withheld]

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So there you have it, kevink, straight from an inside witness to this operation. I hope this clarified somewhat for you.

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Good points.

1) Please take time to view the XENDRIUS video on this subject. The thermite cutter charges could have been put in blast proof containers....as this video suggests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3EQV223Y-M&feature=g-user-u

2) Correct. Normal RDX charges creating mayhem and carnage and people on fire in the lobby areas of the north tower, and explosions in the basement....well documented here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTwE8DaaTo&feature=related

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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"It takes thousands of degrees to bend steel like this."

Said the ironworker at 1 min 55 sec mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU

Thousands of degrees.

What are we to make of this?

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

One thing appears evident

It would have taken a tremendous amount of energy to almost instantly turn tons of concrete into fine micro dust. More energy than is accounted for in the gravitational, chemical jet fuel/office contents or kinetic energy of the planes mass.

"Dr. Cahill stated, “soil and glass were boiling” at Ground Zero well after September 11th, 2001 and up to and including October 30, 2001 and beyond".

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Interesting.

More evidence to challenge the official story.

Thanks.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Can Someone Address This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU

At the 3:51 mark Ken Holden (NY Department of Design & Construction - Director) testifies "underground it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of a wall from building 6".

Maybe I'm wrong (and this is the thing I'd like someone to address) but wasn't the idea that molten metal should've only been in buildings that collapsed due to thermite? If WTC 6 had molten steel does it mean that it was intended to be a controlled demolition as well (assuming the events were all an "inside job")? Or maybe the molten metal dripped from other buildings onto WTC 6?

I don't think I've heard anyone address this point.

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kevink

The guy asking questions in the beginning of that video is a friend of mine. His name is Bob Dacy and he has a hardware store here in Austin. We still get a chuckle out of that NIST guy's reaction when they started hammering him. Another friend of mine that was there is Kevin Smith who may have been working for AJ at the time.

The NIST guy was there to blow a bunch of smoke up some UT students' arses and got ambushed with some REAL questions.(I know that doesn't answer your questions, but it is pretty cool to have a friend that asked a historical question that made at least one of these guys squirm)

As far as that testimony about bldg. 6, this is the first I've heard about it. (and I have studied this subject quite a bit)

I know that 6 was directly underneath the path of debris, and burned for a long time (without collapsing mind you......ehem....fireant)

If there was indeed thermate in those buildings, then it is quite plausible that a good deal of it rained directly down on at least bldgs. 5 and 6 and passed through it.

You've seen the demonstrations of thermite, where they will put it on the hood of a car, and it will go all the way through the engine block, before it's done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylIGRfhJQU

The same thing possibly happened with bldg.6.

I speculate that a combination of thermate/ite was used to soften the structures of 1 and 2, and then timed cutter charges were used to knock the resistance out from below. This way they wouldn't have had to have gigantic explosions to weaken the core and allow it look more like a melting gravitational collapse. I'd also bet that the fires in WTC 7 started in the filing cabinets of certain places that were investigating massive financial fraud. They didn't want THOSE papers blowing around on the streets.

You can see the color of smoke changing right before 1 and 2 go into their collapse sequences.

LOL, thereyago.

So, your good friend the hardware guy planted the ultimate question.

LOL. Obviously your good friend is implausible, right?

Hello, anybody out there think this is weird? Jefferson sounds so CREDIBLE.

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Stop talking in code.

Please clarify what you are talking about.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Sorry,

upon reading back over the post that I responded to I realize I misread it on several points.

My mistake.

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No prob

For liberty!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.