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The Smoking Gun. WTC7 taken down by CONTROLLED demolition. WTC1 and WTC2 as well. What are we to make of this?

Controlled demolition.

In case you have not seen the new documentary, where now thousands of structural engineers, architects, chemical engineers, and physicists are going on record that IT IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE that those three buildings could have been brought down by office fires, or by even high-impact 767 crashes in regards to WTC1 and WTC2. (You can watch that documentary when you have time here:)

http://video.cpt12.org/video/2270078138/

All...I repeat all...of the three buildings brought down that day...comprising the worst structural "failures" in world history...were done by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Incontrovertible. Irrefutable.

And extremely high-tech, high energy military grade explosives which are able to melt steel in a flash, were used.

This is now, without question.

We have solved the what. Now we turn to the how...and then the WHO.

But the government's official accounts, the FEMA and the NIST reports, are so ridden with fraud, gross negligence, and pseudoscience, that those reports...are CRIME SCENES in and of themselves.

We need to start prosecuting right there and then work our way up...but I digress...

3000 innocent citizens and first responders have died! Who will speak for them?? Who will bring them justice??

And hundreds of thousands of family members and friends to the victims who carry the pain with them to this day...deserve a right to know what happened... rather than being insulted by these incompetent, taxpayer-funded government-sponsored cover-ups to the scene of the worst mass murder in American history.

WTC7 was demolished differently than the Twin Towers: All or most of its basement supports were severed at once....as evidenced by the free fall, or fall at the speed of gravity with no resistance, of the first 108 feet.

In other words, 108 feet, you know, 8 to 10 stories of the building of the lower floors, just ceased to exist in an instant.

Where did they go? Did those floors slip into a parallel universe?

Or were they blown to smithereens?

Certainly the truth...wherever it may lie...is not the, fake, forced, fraudulent model reconstruction that NIST (MIST?) tried to shove down the throats of the American taxpayer, $22 Million Dollars later!

As to the destruction of the WTC1 and WTC2 towers...two of the STRONGEST vertical structures on Earth...the entire buildings were laden with nano-thermite, with complete destruction set to begin just below the airplane impact zones, and timed to look like a "normal" gravitational collapse.

It was a brilliant execution.

[Except there is no such thing as a "normal gravitational collapse." Asymmetrical damage (the jet impacts)...can not lead to a symmetrical global collapse. Physically impossible.]

You heard the first collective shaped charge "ka-POW" of the south tower floors being blown apart just below the jet impact area, then the explosions of the other successive floors were timed and were increasingly masked by the continuous roar of the massive demolition wave which gained velocity and amplitude as it plummeted to Earth.

Very clever.

But, eyes don't deceive...and ears don't....thanks to the advent of cameras and cell phone cameras.

Complete gravitational collapse on super-highrises from office fires no matter how hot?

Doesn't happen.

Has never happened in the nearly 100 years of high-rise history.

Will never happen in the future, as long as the Laws of Physics apply....which they will forever.

Unless thermite is involved.

Which may explain the molten iron in a sheer 'waterfall' of molten metal off of the south tower as its upper 30 floor block begins to deform and rotate down, but a block no more, its angular momentum of all that incredible mass, suddenly neutralizing into dust...as the "collapse" accelerates in earnest, traveling down the former path of MOST resistance (the core) that in seconds has become--by being blown to bits--the NEW path of LEAST resistance.

Hmmm. 30 stories pulverized into powder in two seconds. Very strange.

The path of MOST resistance...becoming the path of LEAST resistance. Very strange.

Molten iron. Very strange.

What possibly could turn most of the mass of 350 vertical feet of an acre-sized building, into wisps, in a few seconds? Or melt its steel columns in the same??

Must be something...of course NOT mentioned in the taxpayer funded NIST and FEMA and 9/11 Commission Reports.

Here is the smoking gun to how the controlled demolition was set up...innocuously...with unrecognizable boxes of military-grade super-thermite sol-gel shaped charges, placed in the core areas hidden from the office tenants, against the bare columns in and around the elevator banks.

Super-thermite melts steel with incredible temperature and exrtreme levels of energy.. and pulverizes the concrete and the non-steel contents in mid-air, as Towers 1 and 2 come down.

Literally all of the floor concrete, gypsum wallboard, and FF&E, including elevators and HVAC equipment... for 110 stories of each building, an enormous weight, was pulverized to a toxic powder as fine as talcum, in mid air in seconds...and it spread out like a volcanic pyroclastic flow, over lower Manhattan...while the melted and distorted steel frames, collapse in a heap below.

Watch another the 18 minute presentation here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3EQV223Y-M&feature=g-user-u

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I haven't found anything yet. What do you think it could be???

"Molten metal, easily within

"Molten metal, easily within the realm of natural occurance" You crack me up! No wonder you got the job!!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

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You do know sir the Japanese have for centuries

been known to fire stoneware using nothing but wood for fuel? I know you don't like dealing with facts, but stoneware requires 2400 degrees. It is within the realm of natural occurrence for there to be enough heat underground to melt aluminum, and even steel for that matter.
But of course, you've already decided it was thermate, so you would be inclined to overlook such "trivia".

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But those structures were not

But those structures were not made out of wood? They were steel, I thought you knew that already. Facts are a curious thing, aren't they?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

No there isn't natural occurrence of underground heat

to melt metal. Where do you get this stuff?!?

Fireant...the pile of rubble burned for 8 - 10 weeks

That's a first. Along with 3 steel frame buildings all collapsing due to fire. All firsts. Never has happened before or since.

Its obvious that you enjoy making completely irrational statements and watching everyone go around in circles trying to just figure out what has you so blinded to obvious.

I'm in a especially good mood tonight or I wouldn't have joined in but it's fun for me too. I have to deal with brainwashed people regularly and this banter back and forth with you helps me when I have to try and educate people who have been propagandized for years.

In my view you know the truth but are trying to perfect responses to questions which there really are no rational defenses. Defense lawyers do it all the time with great skill. You've not swayed anyone's opinion on this site that I'm aware of so you need to keep working on your game.

There is a good book called "defending the undefendable" by Walter Block that you would probably really enjoy. It's actually a great book.

One thing about you that does see especially odd to me is that you are defending the State. If I didn't know a damn thing about an issue but had to pick a side to support...without exception I would side with the group that was opposing The State. Our Enemy, The State!

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I read no more than the first sentence, nor shall I, until you

stop using false comparisons. You say "due to fire", as if fire is the only factor. I know. That's the same false logic Gage puts forth.

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I say due to fire because that's what the 9/11 commission

put in their report! Damage from Airplanes, Excessive Heat caused by jet fuel, weakened the steal, leading to "pancake" collapse...so while the collapse (according to the 9/11 report) was a combination of all those...the collapse (specifically of building 7) was "due to damage cause by fire".

Yes I saw a video where the core of building 2 did not fully collapse in the first 9 seconds but it was gone 2 minutes later after another explosion.

Getting ready to play footsies with my wife.

Enjoy your evening.

Cheers,

I think fireant

is practicing for a typing class!!

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my fingers are about worn out

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So are your arguments!

So are your arguments!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Yes Fireant

You can get to those temp. in a furnace with wood when you are adding oxygen to it, like with a bellows. Oxygen rich, not oxygen starve as in the wtc fires. We know the wtc fires were oxygen starve because of the black smoke. I don't have to explain the black smoke to you too, do I??

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I thought we were talking about the basement.

Are you saying because the tower fires were low oxygen, the basement fires were also low oxygen? You want to stick with that story?

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yes

and yes

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We are only talking possibility. Are you telling me it is

impossible, beyond any doubt? For some similar conditions to be present down below? you were there?
Again. Why are you badgering me about this? You said you are the metals guy, and I believe you. Why don't you figure it out and educate us? I mean, what is your point dude?

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His cred is just as questionable as Gage because they

they both are involved with the lies regarding bldg 7.
Once I discovered the lies, I had to go back and rethink the whole thing for myself.
As for the dust, I don't think it is conclusive thermate is the only possible source.
Are you guys conspiring to spell my name wrong?

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Gage and Jones are...

and have been up to no good from the start period. They both should be ignored when it come to knowing what really happened on 9/11. I was once fouled my these jokers but no more.

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I'm glad someone else sees it.

Thanks.

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Bump for truth, and to expose

Bump for truth, and to expose fireant for what he is

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

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Personal attacks can't change what is.

All it does is expose you as an "attack the messenger" poster. You have offered nothing of substance to the entire discussion. Nothing but personal attack.

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Who's the attack messenger

Who's the attack messenger now? And everyone here can see with their own eyeballs and brains that YOU NEVER add anything of substance. Keep talking. You're bringing people to the truth. Thanks.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

End This Please: The Buildings Collapsed Because Of

structural damage by planes or debris and fire. That is all we saw and know.

If conspiracy is what you want to know, send more time looking into why there was not more information on what people and groups, other than Al-Queda and the hijackers, knew of the event before hand. And why the Bush administration wouldn't disclose certain information on what it knew beforehand. Probably just a CYA and politics thing. Maybe they decided to exploit it.

I'm sorry son

It's never going to end until the truth is revealed. The whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I'm sure there are many serial killers who wish investigators would just quit looking for them too, but that's not the way it works. Those people who are trying to live an honest happy life cannot be satisfied with evil crimes going unsolved. Sorry there little buddy.

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It's my fault for keeping this going today.

I apologize to you and everyone who is sick of seeing this thread. The reason I do so is because the whole so called truth movement is operating under a false premise, and many minds can be swayed because the events of that day do seem so incredulous. I know I was swayed for a time, which fogged my own thinking. So, when it is brought up, I intend to point out the fallacious thinking, not with hopes of changing a "truther's" mind, but to expose the fallacies for readers.

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No need to apologize there as...

the whole so-called "Truth" movement was a "Lie" movement from the start.

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Almost as if designed to prevent finding out the truth?

Don't know that I actually believe that, but ya can't help thinking about it, considering the intensity of "truth". Makes you wonder.

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If I'm operating a false pretense

Please tell me what false pretense I am operating under. Where in the world did the energy that cause the molten metal in the basements come from?!?

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Thanks for asking.

The false pretense is stated in the OP:
" IT IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE that those three buildings could have been brought down by office fires, or by even high-impact 767 crashes in regards to WTC1 and WTC2."
By accepting that premise, you have eliminated 99% of all possibility in one fell swoop, causing all who would believe it to accept the notion that only demolition could have brought those buildings down.
It in fact, is physically possible for there to be some other reason those buildings collapsed, and by accepting the premise, even if the odds are slim that you are incorrect, there is a strong likelihood you will completely overlook something material, which may, just may be more sinister than the scenario you believe.

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And

You didn't address my question.

In likelihood you are over looking the one thing I keep bringing

up. How did the molten metal get there?!? And give me one other example in the history of steel framed building that has fallen down at near free fall speed.